http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Kissmyaxe.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 May 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
beautiful shredding sorta nails what i enjoy about this stuff, it's like gorgeous patterns of melodic gleaming shrapnel flying around
― brimstead, Saturday, 17 May 2014 02:11 (ten years ago) link
i mean, the phrase "beautiful shredding"
― brimstead, Saturday, 17 May 2014 02:12 (ten years ago) link
Shout out to Steve Kahn (is he too jazz for this thread?), far from a gimmicky guitar mag guy, but his solos tend to really bring that heavy euphoric escalator-to-heaven fusion guitar style
― brimstead, Saturday, 17 May 2014 02:15 (ten years ago) link
Neil Zaza is p.big w/a few of the Guitar Center / South Korean Catholic CCM crossover ppl I know:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QadSVWXF_ks
― etc, Saturday, 17 May 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link
Holy crap I had no idea anyone outside Cleveland knew who Neil Zaza was. ZAZA was one of the biggest hair metal bands on the scene in the 80s.
― Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:00 (ten years ago) link
http://melodic-hardrock.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ZAZA_01.jpg
― Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:07 (ten years ago) link
He should start an effects box company.
Zaza's Pedals.
― overwhelmed with sweat (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:29 (ten years ago) link
jjjusten will buy
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:41 (ten years ago) link
btw. That dude is truly living the life. Buys all those pedals and it's his job.
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:42 (ten years ago) link
Mixin' business with lesrher
― calstars, Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:58 (ten years ago) link
Leather ahem
I got these stonewashed tight jeans...this black t-shirt
― calstars, Sunday, 18 May 2014 00:59 (ten years ago) link
Haha I actually have a neil zaza signature pedal in stock no lie. Purchase had exactly zero to do with association with Neil zaza, it's a repro of a long lost great dod pedal (yeah I know, but srsly) called the juice box.
http://www.mooeraudio.com/EN/news_show.asp?MsgID=66
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Sunday, 18 May 2014 02:20 (ten years ago) link
Posts very much in character yes I know
― Everyone is awful except you. Wait, no, you are also awful. (jjjusten), Sunday, 18 May 2014 02:21 (ten years ago) link
O_O
― how's life, Sunday, 18 May 2014 10:07 (ten years ago) link
for a while guitar player mag was the cool alternative to guitar mag. their johnny marr cover story was formative for me.― fact checking cuz, Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:48 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinki found a ratty old copy of it somewhere when i was a kid, from the mid/late 80s and they actually did a story on the avant garde guitar scene! featured sonic youth, live skill, savage republic, rat at rar r, and bands like that - first exposure to any of that― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:04 PM (3 days ago)
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:48 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i found a ratty old copy of it somewhere when i was a kid, from the mid/late 80s and they actually did a story on the avant garde guitar scene! featured sonic youth, live skill, savage republic, rat at rar r, and bands like that - first exposure to any of that
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, May 15, 2014 9:04 PM (3 days ago)
I might still have this issue. Big story on Sonic Youth, with tunings and tablature, and a big annotated fold-out poster of famous players' guitar picks.http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41fJ6z6Zg2L._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpghttp://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Magazine-February-Improvisation-Painted/dp/B00I14TBWK
― Mike Dixn, Sunday, 18 May 2014 11:03 (ten years ago) link
Zaza's Pedals.― overwhelmed with sweat (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Lol
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 18 May 2014 12:24 (ten years ago) link
Hmm, I guess the tuning and tab for Teenage Riot would be cool to know.
― calstars, Sunday, 18 May 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link
Guitar (formerly 'For the Practicing Musician') in the 90s did jizz a lot over these dudes (and I remember being all 'uhhh ok' whenever I heard any of it), but tbf they always gave equal credit to up and coming bands that wrote interesting music and weren't really flashy. I remember them giving Crowbar's "Time Heals Nothing" a pretty glowing review.
but then they'd review the latest Toto and whine that in the midst of a glossy pop album that Lukather wasn't lighting up the fretboard more and you're like "...ohhhh welcome back, Guitar".
― getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 May 2014 16:49 (ten years ago) link
one of the first things i did after getting access to 90s Usenet was print out a table of known Sonic Youth guitar tunings. i showed it to a guy i knew who said that SY were "pretentious" for tuning their guitars differently - this guy was a huge Dylan fan as well haha
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 18 May 2014 18:02 (ten years ago) link
http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/tab/teenage_riot.txt
― calstars, Sunday, 18 May 2014 18:21 (ten years ago) link
Hey, if anyone has copies of any of the Guitar Player issues (or other guitar mags for that matter) with features on Sonic Youth, could you please contact me? I've been searching for them for something I'm working on now.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 18 May 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link
Those pretentious blues slide guitarists and their "open E"
― getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 May 2014 18:39 (ten years ago) link
would jump all over a pdf of that issue myself xpost
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:29 (ten years ago) link
When Joe Gore (later w/ PJ Harvey) was the Editor-in-Chief, Guitar Player had a lot of articles of interest for the Kool Kidz.
― Three Word Username, Monday, 19 May 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link
he also took up tom waits gtr duties after ribot iirc
― Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 19 May 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link
what kind of music is this even?
i've been thinking about this question a lot. i think the answer is "demonstration music"
― goole, Monday, 21 July 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
if you think of art in terms of how much athleticism is required you probably like this music
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 21 July 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
you know a lot of the time the rococo blast of lots of bright textures at high speeds is really appealing to me but generally the melodic sense of these guys is so terrible
― goole, Monday, 21 July 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
i mean i was listening to hella today so i guess i can't be one to talk
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 21 July 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
hella is almost certainly the best candidate for indie analogue to this kind of music
― 'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Monday, 21 July 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
Athleticism is a good comparison, M@tt and I always talk about this stuff as being like a magic trick. It can be cool and fun to watch the first time, but it certainly doesn't sustain yr interest as art.
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 21 July 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
And that Al DiMeola "Kiss My Axe" album cover up there is the greatest thing ever
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 21 July 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
There are hip hop equivalents to this too, dudes who can rap super fast and complexly but don't really say much or have any style.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 21 July 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link
http://a3.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Music2/v4/d5/a9/fd/d5a9fd1a-2656-9be3-fad3-265d2694d269/859710076054_cover.170x170-75.jpg
― chikungunya manatee (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 July 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link
there's a vague steely dan vibe on this album
― chikungunya manatee (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 July 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link
I bet guthrie could have done well in a dan session
― chikungunya manatee (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 July 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link
I kinda like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Deu_M6Q0g
― chikungunya manatee (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 July 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link
I mean I'm going to buy this thing and learn to play it
― chikungunya manatee (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 July 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
and i'm going to arrange by stuffed animals around me and pretend they are fagen, becker, et al.
― chikungunya manatee (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 July 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
Do it, and please post a video. Guitar World usually seemed cooler than Guitar Player in the 90s (think GW was where Bob Quine had a column for a while; not like a classroom, the way some others did it, but a fairly evocative discussion of his faves: he was really into Mickey Baker). But GP tried. They had CD series, Legends of Guitar, which delved into several genres (like two volumes of country, bringing the A-List Nashville cats). Also I've still got this: not too big on the Barney Kessel etc, but always did 'ppreciate the range. incl the last two tracks (CD Bonus Tracks!) Legends Of Guitar Presents Legends Of Guitar-Jazz, Vol.1Label:Rhino Records (2) – R2 70717Format:CD, CompilationCountry:USReleased:1990Genre:JazzStyle: Tracklist Hide Credits1 –Frankie Trumbauer & His Orchestra* I'm Coming, Virginia
Guitar – Eddie Lang
3:132 –Kansas City Six, The* Countless Blues
Guitar – Freddie Green*
3:023 –Jack Teagarden & His Orchestra* Pickin' For Patsy
Guitar – Allan Reuss
2:454 –George Barnes Quartet I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles
Guitar – George Barnes
2:585 –Charlie Christian Up On Teddy's Hill
Guitar – Charlie Christian
6:106 –Cats & The Fiddle, The* Stomp Stomp (Fox Trot)
Guitar – Tiny Grimes
2:587 –Charlie Parker All Stars* Relaxin' At Camarillo
Guitar – Barney Kessel
3:108 –Lennie Tristano & His Sextet* Intuition
Guitar – Billy Bauer
2:309 –Laurindo Almeida Blue Balao
Guitar – Laurindo Almeida
3:2110 –Tal Farlow Gibson Boy
Guitar – Barry Galbraith
2:4611 –Howard Roberts Serenata Burlesca
Guitar – Howard Roberts
3:1012 –Wes*, Buddy* & Monk Montgomery Montgomery Funk
Guitar – Wes Montgomery
4:1913 –Lenny Breau Mercy, Mercy, Mercy
Guitar – Lenny Breau
5:2714 –Larry Coryell Spaces (Infinite)
Guitar – John McLaughlin, Larry Coryell
9:2115 –John Scofield Shinola
Guitar – John Scofield
2:3916 –Derek Bailey Scaling
Guitar – Derek Bailey
2:30Notes
― dow, Monday, 21 July 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link
Billy Bauer is really intriguing too; need to dig up my Lennie Tristano cult CDs.
― dow, Monday, 21 July 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link
ey Guitar Player, you really wanna impress me with your Derek Bailey refs then give me some tabs.
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 21 July 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link
Govan is def aware of SDan. There's a 30 minute lesson of his on youtube where he calls one of the chords in a progression he wrote a 'cheap Steely Dan chord.'
― calstars, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 00:16 (nine years ago) link
Visually I can see Govan in the early 70s Dan set up. Late 70s not so much
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 02:20 (nine years ago) link
I remembered Adrian Davison, a Canadian bass player who was billed as "the world's fastest", advertised in the 90s guitar and bass magazines, yet was not interviewed or reviewed kindly by them. Googling revealed that his playing technique screwed his hands up completely, so that he has been unable to play for years, and this astonishing web site. Be sure to click on the video. http://www.adriandavison.com
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 07:07 (nine years ago) link
what kind of music is this even?i've been thinking about this question a lot. i think the answer is "demonstration music"― goole, Monday, July 21, 2014 4:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― goole, Monday, July 21, 2014 4:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
In this interview with Adrian Davison, the interviewer refers to the late 80s/early 90s as "the golden age for player rock".
http://www.globalbass.com/archives/july2001/adrian_davison.htm
― how's life, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 10:44 (nine years ago) link
I like how in that interview he blames the hand problems on emotional stress -- man, look at your wrists on that Oh Canada video and say that again with a straight face. Hurts to watch!
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 10:57 (nine years ago) link
player rock!
― goole, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link