Macklemore, "Same Love"

http://i.imgur.com/xSERKuU.png

makes sense.

ha of course

typical. showbiz jews taking care of their own.

distinguishing factors between macklemore versus pm dawn/arrested development hmm

get a vibe from this guy like, googlebot assigned to index buzzfeed listicles/upworthy videos achieves sentience, starts rapping

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That's really obnoxious to compare macklemore bo arrested development who, despite being every rock critics fav punching bag when they want to stunt like they are tuff guys, actually existed within the Afrocentric movement in hip hop and were a genuine part of the same aspects of hip hop that gave birth to native tongues, etc... To equate a song like Tennessee where he's contemplating the trees his ancestors hung from to Macklemore's omg mom I like finger painting too much am I a butt pirate saybit ain't so is so wrong

the matisyahu comparison is best. they both like to ripoff hip-hop and they both like to pretend to be jewish.

mordy you know self-confession is the basis of all faith

That's really obnoxious to compare macklemore bo arrested development who, despite being every rock critics fav punching bag when they want to stunt like they are tuff guys, actually existed within the Afrocentric movement in hip hop and were a genuine part of the same aspects of hip hop that gave birth to native tongues, etc... To equate a song like Tennessee where he's contemplating the trees his ancestors hung from to Macklemore's omg mom I like finger painting too much am I a butt pirate saybit ain't so is so wrong

I may repost this about a billion times on this thread

sounds legit xp

can we talk about xgau's gross northern state reviews for a second tho: Three white-girl voices from the farthest reaches of Nassau County: Hesta Prynn angular and willfully ill-bred, Guinea Love zaftig and a touch guttural, the misleadingly handled DJ Sprout well-rounded and sometimes pretty.

dude is such a fuckin creep

Still like that first arrested development album. as well as a couple PM dawn albums.

why would anyone shit on arrested development?

PM Dawn and AD have nothing to do with each other though other than hair.

everybody on the money about Arrested Development except whoever dragged them in in the first place

PM Dawn has definitely been vindicated by how much rap has embraced gauzy, euro synth textures, cloud rap, etc

just checking, macklemore really only has one album that anyone's bought and he's been coasting off it since 2012, right?

Look, I never questioned how good or bad Arrested Development were. I brought them up as a comparison to normal white people engaging with hip hop for a minute until they're bored with it and move on to the next thing. Those are the buttons Macklemore is pushing.

the first rap CD i paid for with my own money was Arrested Development Unplugged, it's a wonder i didn't grow up to BE Macklemore tbh

arrested development is p bad tho

Probably because you couldn't draw when you were in the third grade xp

why would anyone shit on arrested development?

― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:07 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there was a moment of critical obsession that verged a bit hysterical in the mid-90s when most white critics were ignoring illmatic

nowadays its swung pretty hard the other way and m@tt otm

Dunno if you got yer years right dee

i knew so many people who were on some i dont usually like rap shit with AD so JFs point stands imho

which is not to say that theyre like mackelm in other ways

3 years came out in march 92, illmatic april 94.

A GAME OF HORSESHOES

White critics weren't the only ones saying "save us, speech, you're are only hope" when G thang dropped

I think his point was that throughout the mid-90s when lots of great rap was still being overlooked by music critics, it kind of became emblematic of "This is the rap that white rock critics think is great, lol, c'mon!" Not that it was specifically being supported over Illmatic in 94, just kind of became Exhibit A of "White rock critics just don't understand"

Totally correct me if I'm wrong though.

Yeah it's just revisionist to pretend the enthusiasm was white only for a group loved by Randall Keenan, spike lee, Danyel smith, etc. plenty of black writers were glad for a popular alternative to gangsta

saying they were busy ignoring an album that wouldn't come out until AD dropped Zingalamaduni just reaffirms the perspective is askew

http://books.google.com/books?id=hcbFj_1xS7QC&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&dq=arrested+development+children+of+the+revolution+spin&source=bl&ots=bNsf6QvEn2&sig=Xk3cxuayxfmKhZxEKBaKsY2Js5I&hl=en&sa=X&ei=A818U6W_N4TuoASYh4HgCA&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=arrested%20development%20children%20of%20the%20revolution%20spin&f=false

AD was so awful

in case anybody forgot

totally fascist, right?

AD & M/RL are comparable in as far as they're marketed as an alternative to the rap norm, and in that the spokespeople aren't as liberal-minded as the hype suggests, but it should be pretty obvious that a song like "Tennessee" is infinitely more heartfelt and refreshing a perspective than "Same Love."

AD & M/RL are comparable in as far as they're marketed as an alternative to the rap norm

Yeah, this is the only point I was originally trying to make. I wish I'd worded it like this.

well the idiotic part is assuming only white people can appreciate an alternative to the rap norm

in 3rd grade i thought i was a horseshoe because I was lucky and liked to be on the bottom of horses feet also my uncle was a horse

nay

PM Dawn and Arrested Development were two African American groups who dared to rhyme about things outside of rap's accepted narrative

Macklemore is a white musician borrowing a black artform to help confirm the pre-existing biases of smug white people.

Bringing their names into this is corny as fuck.

I WASN'T MAKING A QUALITATIVE COMPARISON JESUS CHRIST

omg strawman much whiney jeez

dared to rhyme about things outside of rap's accepted narrative

gtfo they were plenty accepted. unless you are KRS-One

can't believe people itt are arguing that Macklemore & Ryan Lewis sound just like Arrested Development. smdh.

Yeah it's just revisionist to pretend the enthusiasm was white only for a group loved by Randall Keenan, spike lee, Danyel smith, etc. plenty of black writers were glad for a popular alternative to gangsta

― da croupier, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:01 AM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i didn't say ONLY white people liked it, just that a bunch of white people jumping on board who were ignoring the vast majority of the genre was what made it seem esp suspect

well the idiotic part is assuming only white people can appreciate an alternative to the rap norm

― da croupier, Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:23 AM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the idiotic part is you projecting a strawman onto us

i didn't say ONLY white people liked it, just that a bunch of white people jumping on board who were ignoring the vast majority of the genre was what made it seem esp suspect

I would argue that it only seemed suspect to other white people