dj mustard 2014

I'm fine with sonically pillaging Eurobeat, but lyrically? I dunno...

oh yeah the "rhythm is a dancer" interpolation is whatever... i really like singing it but it's more functional than anything. i think they get away with it but barely.

agree w/ Miko it's just corny

an attempt to replicate 'show me'

Huh, hadn't heard Down on Me. That song is very very good. Kinda the next step of dynamic switching, going into this overdriven frenzy. Nice new trick. Might vote for it, but then again, left right, paranoid, etc.

4. left right (this sounds incredible and punishing on really good speakers)

YES! The first time I played it out in a club both me and my dj partner were like o________o

yeah i thought it was a total dud of a track until i went to hear the album at a listening thing at def jam on their $90 million soundsystem and was blown away

I think I'm the only person who's not really all that impressed with "2 On", production-wise. It's Tinashe and Q who elevate the track IMO.

Ugh, I hate that Q verse. It's like listening to a guy sitting on a toilet barking orders to his girlfriend to make him a sandwich. Really pushy and gross

(great song otherwise though obviously)

The transition from I Just Wanna Party to Left, Right on My Krazy Life is epic.

schoolboy q shouldn't be rapping on R&B songs

between the beat & tinashe's vocals there's a real smoothness to "2 on" and i could see maybe how schoolboy q's gruffness was seen as a nice counterpoint to that but i just find it jarring and garish and think drake approaches the song much better

ugh drake singing the "2 on" chorus is nails on chalkboard shit

I haven't heard the Drake version, but I'm cool with Q on it (it's my second favorite on this list) and I can't see how Drake Draking all over it would improve it.

schoolboy q shouldn't be rapping on R&B songs

― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:34 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these are some of his best songs although really he shouldn't be rapping on anything these days

Drake getting on "2 on" is 2 on the nose, if you get what i'm saying

the mustard beat is the best part of that record, by far.

Like, it's not a hit without it—tinashe is a corny ryan hemsworth collaborating xerox of a xerox of aaliyah

so really, no one else is repping for the T-Pain record tho?

t-pain song is pretty great still middle of the pack for me tho

apparently i'm killfiled by deej but i am going on record as up/down as one of my faves of the year.

The obvious answer that somehow no one is mentioned is T-Pain's "Up Down" which is >>>>>> everything in this list

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 09:37 (Yesterday) Permalink

such a grating awful song

I almost wish bars/clubs I go to'd just play old-school LA rap at this point, Mustard tracks sound better on blown-out speakers like everything but still can't mask the weak aspects of it

gotta be a better club-oriented producer who can take dude's spot

Up Down is excellent, especially the remix (BOOSIE B), but the bass on Left, Right is too earth-shattering for me to not vote for it.

"Up Down" is great, yeah, love the slightly spectral melody in the background, there's a real stateliness to the whole thing.

I don't actually want bars to only play LA rap I've just been on that kick lately, just Iamsu's production crew is more my speed, mostly cuz their drums aren't weaksauce

Mustard's drums are soooooooooooo not weaksauce, he just uses them sparingly.

they're super-mild Taco Bell sauce no lie

i think there's definitely a case to be made that P-Lo is a better producer than Mustard, or would be if he got the same kind of opportunities. Yo Gotti's "Act Right" >>>>> pretty much every Mustard production.

Loads of these are great but Left Right is the only one that feels as if it's pulling you up and hitting you in the face. On a different day I might have voted for 2 On but that's trumped by the irrepressible greatness of the DJ Q remix.

In general I like Mustard more than the vocalists he works with, I don't want or need to hear 2 Chainz or Ty Dolla Sign on anything these days but I lap these up when he's working with people I actually give a shit about.

yeah he's not working with a whole lot of world class talent, but the chemistry he has with YG and some other people definitely elevates what they're doing together.

i know this statement won't fly on ILM very well but imo Mustard R&B mostly sucks the same way Lil Jon R&B mostly sucked. melodic vocals mostly don't work on his stuff, and even when they do it's often Ty Dolla Sign being a scumbag or something else that makes the song insufferable to me.

i think there's definitely a case to be made that P-Lo is a better producer than Mustard, or would be if he got the same kind of opportunities. Yo Gotti's "Act Right" >>>>> pretty much every Mustard production.

― some dude, Saturday, 2 August 2014 11:03 (11 hours ago) Permalink

+ "Only That Real" and "What You 'Bout" though that one he produced with Su

It's a more vibey laid-back sound but a lot less skeletal than Mustard's beats imo and I dig that

sidenote I was surprised at how dope Sage the Gemini's verse on "Only That Real" is since I don't fuck with his music, even though he's got the same producers contributing and all that

The "Ty Dolla sign is a scumbag" thing feels way over the top to me

He's also a more talented artist than mustard but that's here nor there

well listen i don't know his life, but his lyrics have a pretty consistently scumbaggy POV.

I guess? I feel like he's no worse than like trey songz or someone. Maybe it's just that he's jokier or seems more self aware?

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White girls love to do coke
Black girls always want to smoke
Asian hoes like to drink sake
My Spanish bitch want to pop a molly

And she be like "Ay que rico" when I'm going real deep though
You can give me all of them besos, just stay low, do what I say so
Fuck me now, oh shit, excuse my French but I got a bad bitch
And she ain't from France but she french kiss dick
And she ain't got plans cause they get dismissed

is "Paranoid" supposed to be that scumbag-y? I don't really think of it that way, if anything B.o.B's verse is moreso

but yeah "My Cabana" quoted, definitely see it there, shame too cuz I dig the whole atmosphere on that track

my cabana is forever moving because of the blunted sadness and deep concern with how many hos CAN fit in his cabana; that last "hos...." does a lot of heavy lifting

you guys cannot play dumb about Ty. this is like the plausible deniability shit where people tried to act like Odd Future didn't use gay slurs more than other rappers when there were, like, statistics to the contrary. Trey Songz might have a couple extra macho songs where he says some rough stuff about women but with Ty Dolla Sign it's like every single line of every single song.

idk i just see dudes go on about his supposedly creepy and horrible lyrics way more than women, not that i see people apologizing for stuff like that my cabana verse or anything but it just seems like weirdly arbitrary distinction

but yeah "My Cabana" quoted, definitely see it there, shame too cuz I dig the whole atmosphere on that track

― nova, Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:21 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the 'ignorant' lyrics are the point tho

this is ridiculous

cannot believe this misogynist rapper asking for threesomes and buying women red bottoms, truly we have broken new ground here

but yeah "My Cabana" quoted, definitely see it there, shame too cuz I dig the whole atmosphere on that track

― nova, Sunday, August 3, 2014 3:21 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the 'ignorant' lyrics are the point tho

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 3 August 2014 23:03 (Yesterday) Permalink

ok but they're still pretty mean-spirited/flippant?

ty's thing is kinda being a scumbag, even if he is frequently charming

i mean "or nah"... he wrote "loyal" ... he has a track record

the first beach house EP has IRL voicemails of him being a fucking dickhead to women

but i also think it's an arbitrary distinction to single him out. the opposing sides of this argument also have opposing opinions on how talented he is.

when i interviewed him asked him if women ever tell him that he comes off like an asshole on his songs and he gave me a "pshhhhh" answer like i asked him the stupidest question in the world

he just ain't a beta bitch like that Aubrey Graham lame amirite

nah i'm kidding. I do find both of their lyrical approaches problematic though, just in different ways

mostly I just don't think Drake has that much insight into things & it's mainly like ok dude, you're wallowing in your relationship troubles, we been there but i'm honestly not that interested & after a point it's just self-indulgent

ty has no pretense really. he's openly the asshole bad boy that girls like. drake is also the asshole bad boy but he wraps it up in tenderness & introspection that i think he thinks is harder to see thru than it really is. you could argue that the latter is more manipulative and perhaps maybe worse.

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i'm sure i'm missing some but i tried to pull together all the mustard singles from rack city forward https://open.spotify.com/user/nminichino/playlist/4LJtvEIPgYSyOARnrCmauc

rn i'm more interested in fake mustard but that may be down to how much i have grown to love "somebody" (may as well replace "natalielarose" with "mustardonthebeat" at the beginning)

one great detail on "post to be" is when and how often jhené aiko insists "i'll make him do it"

may as well replace "natalielarose" with "mustardonthebeat" at the beginning

this is the best part of that song

in the club like wuhh going duh like wuhh etc is the best part imo, but that bit's good too

"flex" is so fake mustard it's sick

it sounds like dancehall to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BigyqAiSiSQ

now u mention, does this get usa play idk

couple weeks ago the model st3fani4 f3rr4ri0 (her named portfolio was sticking out of her bag ok #dontjudgeme) walked onto my train literally just as it came on in my headphones... i'm slowly recovering

nah, good track tho

i think american internet just discovered it like a month ago

missed when this came out but this is my fav mustard track.....ever?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say_Less_(Ashanti_song)