still lotsa guitar rock bands fucking everywhere!
i mean i get the point but to say guitar rock is inevitably transitioning into a bygone art is the dumbest thing ever, and i am *not* clinging to my guitar as button-pushing tank-topped kids in funny haircuts close in around me, i promise
― alpine static, Monday, 4 August 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
It's inevitable in the sense that the eventual extinction of the human race is inevitable.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 4 August 2014 17:13 (nine years ago) link
spoon do some great things with guitar and obviously they are a 'rock band' but i don't know how much i would think of them first as a guitar rock band, everything is so uptight and constructed on their records that it's more like, in places, they make use of guitars and the overall product of that is rock songs
― j., Monday, 4 August 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
wait so does that mean that the inevitable transition is over and there are in fact no more guitar rock bands?!
― alpine static, Monday, 4 August 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link
iirc at least three of the songs on this new record feature little to no guitar AT ALL wtf
― Simon H., Monday, 4 August 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link
so who's this other Spoon on Spotify?
― Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 4 August 2014 17:53 (nine years ago) link
that's an actual lowercase-s spoon that does this interesting synth-didge tribal EDM thing
― alpine static, Monday, 4 August 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link
Spewn
― Evan, Monday, 4 August 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
Transference is pretty great. Whoever said that was otm. Gimme Fiction is the only album I don't really care for, I think.
― Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 4 August 2014 18:12 (nine years ago) link
Think again. I'm sure you care for it deeply! Give it another shot.
― DavidLeeRoth, Monday, 4 August 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link
ha, I plan to give it another shot. I think I was damaged by the PMF they headlined around that time.
― Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 4 August 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
this actually fits spoon pretty well
http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2014/08/critic-proof-bands/
except that their lyrics are (cryptically) 'emotional', which is what makes them serviceable as lifestyle music for the educated indie set
― j., Monday, 4 August 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link
they've kind of got a thing for putting momentum-killing numbers up front in their tracklists huh
― j., Monday, 4 August 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Inside Out is my favorite track of the album, so I don't know if I agree.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 4 August 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
I agree insofar as "Rent I Pay" is by some distance my least favorite thing on it
― Simon H., Monday, 4 August 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link
well, kill was the wrong term, but for as uptempo a band as they are, the 2/3 slots on their last few tend to slow things down strikingly early
― j., Monday, 4 August 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link
when are they covering 'ege bamyasi'?
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 4 August 2014 21:31 (nine years ago) link
Wow this gets pretty boring after the first few songs
― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link
ya the end of 'they want my soul' with the hard panned guitars is cool but nothing else really stuck with me
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link
"New York Kiss" is my favorite tune besides "Outlier" but yeah
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:33 (nine years ago) link
aw go back to yr national records yall ungrateful so and sos
― j., Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link
haha the national are fucking boring. i love spoon, i'm sure i'll come around. i really liked 'transference'.
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
"I Just Don't Understand" is the only track that's actually bad, most of it just seems like generic late-period Spoon.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:42 (nine years ago) link
and that's the cover song, right?
― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link
They've fallen into this rut of midtempo tunes with a heavy plodding basic 4/4 beat which sometimes works but they could stand to try something different imo
― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:44 (nine years ago) link
― Immediate Follower (NA),
It was so bad on first listen that I was relieved to learn it was a cover.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link
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This is why I've always hated Beck.
― Evan, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link
But that doesn't seem like an accurate description of Beck? I mean, like him or not, his past handful of albums have all sounded pretty different from each other, even if they are all reheats of stuff he's done better before.
― Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 16:18 (nine years ago) link
can I enjoy the national and spoon?
― Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
no
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 16:28 (nine years ago) link
yikes "my bad" guys
― Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
I love the National and love Spoon, but I think the last National record was one of its best and this one is ... not bad at all, but sort of ... tentative? Both bands have their thing down, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
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Well, there is a good chance that I'm being unfair and don't have enough info, but I just remember all the songs I've heard fitting that description.
Anyway... back to Spoon. Kill The Moonlight still the favorite for me.
― Evan, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
A few listens through, I think I actually prefer Transference? I mean, that record was so weird, and though definitely a grower, I've come to consider it a pretty substantial entry in the catalog. This new one is good - I just don't love it.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 19:23 (nine years ago) link
I think Transference is my second favorite Spoon album, but my favorite is Series of Sneaks, so I feel well out of the mainstream of Spoon fans.
― mizzell, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
yeah i don't get this anymore
― ♪♫ teenage wasteman ♪♫ (goole), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link
they've gone from fractured to just pointless. this band meant everything to me when i was younger and i don't think they've written anything that really turned over in about 15 years
― ♪♫ teenage wasteman ♪♫ (goole), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link
lol automotive metaphor
― ♪♫ teenage wasteman ♪♫ (goole), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
ok i'm not done with this yet but outlier is the goofiest thing they've ever written
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
to me this record seems to be minor spoon (just like ga x 5), while transference was major spoon, and i'll never understand why the vast majority of ppl seem to think the opposite.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
oh lol i just got to the cover
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
GF is my favorite but it doesn't matter; it could be Ga5 or KTM. I like Transference these days.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link
Sometimes I want to hear more Spoon songs where Britt allows his guitar chords to ring out a bit more in the fashion of "Sister Jack" but hey they have their sound.
― Evan, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link
Though maybe they would sound too much like Teenage Fanclub or something huh.
― Evan, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
Every time there's a Spoon discussion it ends up with album ranking. I think we've established that they have some of the least amount of consensus of "best album" of any band.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link
they are obviously accomplished career musicians so i think the more interesting question is always why discussions about them have so little traction
― j., Tuesday, 5 August 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link
which i think probably has more to do with the way people listen to them than with much about the records
― j., Tuesday, 5 August 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link
Every time a new Spoon record comes out, I listen to some or all of it once and then go dig out Telephono and A Series of Sneaks and remember that they were once a not-boring-actually-kind-of-great band.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 5 August 2014 20:35 (nine years ago) link
xp they are sorta wallpaper-y, it's true... really pretty, high-end wallpaper tho
I think I saw them live once, touring on the back of Gimme Fiction, with the Clientele opening, but I honestly can't even remember?
― dont even make sense right now because of my shoulder medication (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 20:36 (nine years ago) link
Johnny Fever u mad??
― dont even make sense right now because of my shoulder medication (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link