Early Music: RFI

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have been in a mood for some serious early music dance tunes, a la https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3Tg_NSmXTU

in the event that anyone who reads this thread is thinking "that sounds great, but i wonder how it would sound with more drums..." do i have a link for you! http://bit.ly/1o6vyNl

:D

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 18 August 2014 19:11 (ten years ago) link

Rock on!

skip, Monday, 18 August 2014 19:20 (ten years ago) link

i could listen to that song like 20x in a row
david munrow really brings the fire

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 18 August 2014 19:29 (ten years ago) link

He is so killer
I wish someone would write a juicy biography of him and his scene

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Monday, 18 August 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link

You do it!! I'll read it!

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Monday, 18 August 2014 22:16 (ten years ago) link

But research is boring :(

before you die you see the rink (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 01:37 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

munrow enthusiast laura cannell doing some really interesting things with early music imo
http://thequietus.com/articles/17067-laura-cannell-interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK4ypurd-aE#t=18

groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link

wow i did not know about this person! She sounds super interesting. Just read the list of tracks she picked for a mixtape on some other site.

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link

kind of getting heavily into the david munrow stuff these days

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

oh yay that's awesome tyler! Which records you digging?

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link

http://cdn.discogs.com/kBCYvuMTnIaCpIsSYIMfqcnldsk=/fit-in/600x598/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-2899397-1339286855-2282.jpeg.jpg
this one! got the LP w/ the giant book -- just so much to dig through...

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link

Jealous!! I recently found another ECM/Munrow lp but I never have stumbled on that one. Get the Art of the Netherlands box if you ever see it. Really great.

groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link

I've been super into Jordi Savall recordings lately. I see someone bigupped him upthread.

walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

xp i got the renaissance box for pretty cheap ($15-ish?) on discogs, looks like they've got sweet deals on the munrow/early consort stuff... need to get more, though i can only listen when i'm alone in the house... rest of the family thinks i'm about to start going to renn faires. AND MAYBE I AM.

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:47 (nine years ago) link

Highly rec munrows:

Music of the Crusades
Machaut and his Contemporaries
The Fourteenth Century Avant Garde
The Court of Burgundy
Ecco la Primavera

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:48 (nine years ago) link

cool, thanks -- yeah i want to get 'em all. amazing how much munrow accomplished musically in a pretty short life...

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link

Way too soon

groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link

But he was clearly one of those ppl who burned brightly -- that wears on a person. RIP.

groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link

the photography in the renaissance book is incredible too
http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpf1/t51.2885-15/10724738_586121424827944_474405121_n.jpg

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link

Omg love

groundless round (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link

was listening to laura cannell just this morning - so good!

have had good luck picking up a bunch of munrows in charity shops of late but haven't really had the chance to digest tehm properly

Ottbot jr (NickB), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 22:43 (nine years ago) link

I'm dying dying dying for a substantial bio of munrow. I really hope someone has been chipping away at it as his fellow emclers are starting to die (rip hogwood)

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link

friend sent me this early music mix if anyone is interested! looks good. https://soundcloud.com/gabecelestino/sunne-under-wode-part-1
Sunne Under Wode Part 1 or 3.

1.Allemaingne (Tielman Susato) performed by Rene Clemencic
2.Polorum regina (Llibre Vermell) performed by Hesperion XX
3. Veni Sancte Spiritus (John Dunstable) performed by The Hilliard Ensemble
4. Vos que'm semblatz dels corals amadors (Gaucelm Faidit) performed by Hesperion XX
5. O quanta qualia (Peter Abelard) performed by Studio Der Frühen Musik
6. Avendo me falcon (Jacopo Da Bologna) performed by Ensemble Project Ars Nova
7. El rey de Francia tres hijas tenia (anonymous) performed by Hesperion XX
8. Kabinettorgel, um 1670 (Orlando Gibbons) performed by Albert de Klerk

tylerw, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link

never really listened to the hilliard ensemble outside of that celebrated collab with jan garbarek, which i just did not like whatsoever

why you gotta be so rmde (NickB), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link

they are good, a bit sterile sounding at times.

skip, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:38 (nine years ago) link

listened to Huelgas Ensemble - A Secret Labyrinth (music of Agricola) yesterday and it was too unearthly beautiful to listen to at work, I could not get anything done at all

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:43 (nine years ago) link

ha, that's the worst/best!

i'd still like more recommendations for istampitta/saltarello type tunes
i haven't found anything i like better than the ones i have, or anything i like as much

groundless round (La Lechera), Friday, 23 January 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link

for those looking for new vocal music, Cinquecento has been pumping out albums and they have all been good.

skip, Friday, 23 January 2015 16:57 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

In my neverending quest to find all of the wildest David Munrow recordings, I picked up three things while on vacation recently --
1) LP box of The Art of Courtly Love (I have the CD but couldn't resist because of the book/notes/lyrics)
2) CD of Music for Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain
3) Henry VIII and his Six Wives film score

So far the highlight (as far as what I'm after, generally speaking) has been the track "Ethiop Masque", which was apparently incidental music in the film (which I haven't seen, but stars Charlotte Rampling!) The whole album is on youtube but a clip of that tune is easier to access here http://www.allmusic.com/album/david-munrow-henry-viii-and-his-six-wives-mw0001382560

I never get sick of this stuff!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link

yeahhh, i have to get that henry viii soundtrack. i saw some of that series a million years ago on pbs.

tylerw, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 15:21 (eight years ago) link

oh wait maybe i am thinking of a different henry viii 70s thing? there are so many.

tylerw, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link

Idk -- I'm not familiar with the film or miniseries but the music is great!! There's another really driving tune called "Street Music" iirc

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link

yeahhh, i have to get that henry viii soundtrack. i saw some of that series a million years ago on pbs.

How does it stack up next to The Caine Mutiny soundtrack?

Poe, I know all about Ulalume (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 17:11 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

The new Laura Cannell album Simultaneous Flight Movement is a really stunning collection of one take improvisations, totally beautiful stuff.

calzino, Thursday, 27 October 2016 08:27 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFop7BWHjJ0
Her fleet and beautiful double recorder+echo title track is very timeless and ancient sounding, and very moving as well.

calzino, Friday, 28 October 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link

whoa thanks for the heads up on that laura cannell, sounds amazing.

tylerw, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

Munrow still RULES

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link

I'm aware it's an unseemly & gratuitous opinion to have of such a niche artist but I kind of hate cannell's relentless melodrama. rarely approve of the word but it comes off as pretentious & it's such a one-note slog, I just want some space, some awareness but it's always fluttering around in its own shadow. it's close to being something I'd love but imo aiming for 'ancient-sounding' v directly, which I think it is, is shooting yourself in the foot. you end up sounding twee

ogmor, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

I enjoyed it both in my kitchen at loud volume and wandering through greenbelt with my headphones, so it gets a double thumbs up from me. But I can understand how some will think it twee , but idk it just works for me.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 23:30 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

This new Laura Cannell album fits my mood fairly well. (Was not familiar with her.)

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

I haven't had much of an appetite for this sort of thing in a very long time, but Musica Secreta's Lucrezia Borgia's Daughter is very welcome at the moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNSLNlMmdRw

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 17 December 2017 04:28 (six years ago) link

five years pass...

Music Of The Gothic Era or Music From The Crusades...
I already have these on CD, but would totes buy LPs if I saw them.

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Wednesday, August 1, 2012 12:37 PM (ten years ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was lucky enough to grab a pristine copy of the Music Of the Gothic Era 3 LP set for $15 a few days ago. I've appreciated this music digitally for years, but studying the liner notes and texts has illuminated it big time, especially with the ars antiqua and ars nova motets.

This is deeply strange music--two (or three) different texts sung simultaneously, alternately harmonizing and hocketing with each other. Sometimes the texts are closely related to each other, and sometimes sung from different/contrasting perspectives. Of course I don't understand Latin or medieval French, but I'd imagine if I did understand the language, listening to these motets would be even more of a head-spinning experience, figuring out which text to follow or attempting to keep track of both at the same time.

So I'm wondering if there are examples of motets or other music with a similar effect in English, from that era or beyond (The Velvet Underground "The Murder Mystery" is what immediately comes to mind for me). It seems like after the gothic era composers tended to base compositions around a single text rather than two or more overlapping texts, but maybe I'm wrong about that...

J. Sam, Thursday, 2 February 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

I just put together a show about pre-historic music, interviewed Simon O'Dwyer of Ancient Music Ireand, he reconstructs bronze age / iron age instruments and figures out how they were played.

https://centuriesofsound.com/2023/09/11/centuries-of-sound-radiopod-prequel-special-1-ancient-sounds-with-simon-odwyer-of-ancient-music-ireland/

They've also just launched a sound library called Paleosonic - https://www.ancientmusicireland.com/sound-library

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 11 September 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link

this is so great!

budo jeru, Monday, 11 September 2023 22:43 (one year ago) link

Thanks, I was surprised at how much was out there, I had the idea that it was just the Hurrian hymn, but could've put together several hours.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 08:42 (one year ago) link

Yoooo

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Thursday, 14 September 2023 02:21 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Looking for recordings of 15th c organ music in (preferably) historic temperaments, any recs?

Re: discussion upthread, I’ve listened to a bunch of Notre Dame school stuff in the last year, Orlando Consort is my favorite, I agree with Milton Parker about the Hilliard Ensemble Perotin release (nice but ECM-glacial), I didn’t really like the Naxos disc tho the Amazon review stating you can hear the rain outside the cathedral makes me want to revisit badly (I’m way into that), I like Red Byrd a lot, Gilles binchois ensemble also good.

Janet Cardiff’s 40 Part Motet installation @ the Cloisters ruined me for recordings of Tallis

Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 17:58 (one month ago) link

^Orlando Consort is my favorite b/c they seem like they were able to enter into the trance state and establish the hypnotic groove, which none of the others do imo- this is like, the most important part so it's a shame they rarely come up in these discussions. Compare e g. their Serudent Principes to that of others, theirs is such a jam!

Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 24 September 2024 18:22 (one month ago) link


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