POLLD LIKE SARDINES IN A CRUSHD TIN BOX - ILM Artist Poll #56 - RADIOHEAD

might do a troll ballot that's just 'Pop is Dead' at #1 tho

The Bends came out, like, 20 years ago! How much longer do you want us to wait? Until everybody involved is dead?

I meant IMBW as an album. seems repetitious to put it in. I definitely found it weird re-listening to radiohead initially but I think I'm over it now

maybe what I'm really saying is that I can't listen to Radiohead properly because they make me feel old, so if we just wait till I'm young again then we'll be good to go

True Love Waits is one of their best song IMO

generally radiohead's live stuff stays close to the studio version (and the I Might be Wrong live disc documents that) so it's not something i listen to frequently. there are some songs, though, that are better live imo. unprompted, here's my list:

i might be wrong (the live version benefits from the faster tempo)
everything in its right place (the last song of the set/encore version with the extended ending)
the gloaming (i don't know why they didn't include the live version on the HTTT collector's edition bonus disc. it gets a subtle rearrangement that immensely improves it)
idioteque (some versions, at least, particularly the 2000/2001 era when they occasionally used an alternate electronic snare sound that POPPED)
and as mentioned earlier, pretty much all of TKOL is better live

Kid A is really interesting live, taken out of the crèche and given some real some acoustic space.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2MOCH_SIDE

i had a similar progression over time with sonic youth's later albums.

yeah, there's a comfort and confidence to both that i find appealing, they became more modestly themselves, the songs are more lived-in. don't feel the need to revisit much pre-HTTT radiohead for this reason and feel the inventiveness of the kid a/amnesiac era is overstated. KoL was a season's running album for me; it's the perfect length for it. "in bloom" will be in my top 10, it's a stunner imo.

a stunner about the planet dying ;_;

generally radiohead's live stuff stays close to the studio version (and the I Might be Wrong live disc documents that) so it's not something i listen to frequently. there are some songs, though, that are better live imo. unprompted, here's my list:

i might be wrong (the live version benefits from the faster tempo)
everything in its right place (the last song of the set/encore version with the extended ending)
the gloaming (i don't know why they didn't include the live version on the HTTT collector's edition bonus disc. it gets a subtle rearrangement that immensely improves it)
idioteque (some versions, at least, particularly the 2000/2001 era when they occasionally used an alternate electronic snare sound that POPPED)
and as mentioned earlier, pretty much all of TKOL is better live

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:00 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That was something I found disappointing about their shows; they stuck so close to the studio arrangements that the songs didn't get a chance to really lift off. But those examples (although I never saw them do any TKOL or HTTT stuff, as I last saw them in 2001) are otm. I'd add "National Anthem" to the list, but yeah, "Everything" and "Idiotheque" were brilliant live.

That said, I Might Be Wrong was a huge disappointment. The mix/recording sounded awful, not even as good as the 2000/2001 MTV concert broadcasts (or, for that matter, their 2000 SNL appearance).

the i might be wrong release was kinda baffling. only 8 songs, only one song that was unreleased (true love waits, a song i never really liked but i suppose its inclusion satisfied the longstanding pleas of lots of radiohead fans at the time), a mix that was worse than several widely available bootlegs at the time, etc. in retrospect i guess it just fulfilled part of their contract with EMI/Capitol and presumably they didn't spend more than an hour thinking about it

They should release their FTB sessions as a live double album at one point. They sound 100x times better than the IMBW album and they're actually worth hearing as the KoL ones sound like a whole different beast live.

i'm not sure how much clarity there is on this, but did Clive Deamer (the portishead/radiohead second drummer) join up with them after TKOL had been recorded, or before? and is he purely a tour musician or is he now part of the songwriting process?

20 tracks seems overkill to me, but I'll do it.

listening to "Airbag" for the first time in a long time; this is a decent song but I remembered why I always skipped it (I was and remain obsessed with Paranoid Android)

I missed the National Anthem off my ballot. Dang.

I listen to the Easy Star All stars version of OKc more these days than the original.
Also had trouble ranking the albums whereas picking songs was fairly easy.

'let down' might win this

Nah I don't like it.

Although I like the easy star version loads which is weird.

National Anthem and Karma Police are two tracks I never want to hear again. Too many high school bands covered KP.

Planet Telex (Hexidecimal Dub) is ridiculously great. Unfortunately something like three people have ever heard it. Even the song labelled that way on the "Towering Above the Rest" bootleg is actually just another copy of Planet Telex (Hexidecimal Mix).

Identikit is a tune.

Although I like the easy star version loads which is weird.

― Scary Darey (dog latin)

Yeah the Easy Stars version of Let Down is great! Totally sounds like a really good lost Toots classic. Other cuts off Radiodread I really enjoy are Airbag and Electioneering.

Yeah Def sounds like a toots song. Is it him guesting? Can't remember. Always find it's the tracks I like least off the original that I enjoy most on the easy star version.

Voting from yet unreleased songs feels wrong to me, there's so much to choose from... why waste a vote on Identikit or such when we haven't heard them properly yet. Videotape and Like Spinning Plates live are wildly different from the release versions. Maybe you love Identikit now but when it gets released you might hate it. It applies on the inverse as well.

Planet Telex (Hexidecimal Dub) is ridiculously great. Unfortunately something like three people have ever heard it. Even the song labelled that way on the "Towering Above the Rest" bootleg is actually just another copy of Planet Telex (Hexidecimal Mix).

― rushomancy

whoa! where can I find it? A quick search throws the Hexidecimal mix (which I love madly) but nothing about the dub version which is weird for a band as big as Radiohead. There's even some talk about the dub version in here but noone has heard it either:
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/radiohead-planet-telex-hexidecimal-dub-does-this-actually-exist.158082/

There's an hexidecimal dub version on grooveshark but it seems to sound just like the Hexidecimal mix. Are you sure it's a different mix?

can't see anything of King Of Limbs making the Top 20. it's pretty terrible iirc although i haven't given it a listen in ages.

I doubt it too but 'Separator' is a great song

oh man I fucking <3 the Planet Telex Hexadecimal Mix

ok, i've got 20 songs ready. the hardest bit was deciding which b-sides i liked the most, and whether or not they seriously pulled their weight alongside the better album tracks. but i think i'm pretty happy with my list as far as the present point in time goes. they're the kind of band where i kinda fluctuate between preferring the softer, more finespun material and the more abstract, off-kilter stuff. my ballot strikes an even balance of both.

OK, wow. It's amazing to me that one can be semi-obsessed with a band for 20+ years and still find lost gems. I've got a ton of B-sides and "lost" stuff but I hadn't heard Planet Telex Hexadecimal Mix before. Wow, I love when Jonny gets all dubby.

There's an hexidecimal dub version on grooveshark but it seems to sound just like the Hexidecimal mix. Are you sure it's a different mix?

― Moka, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 08:05 (2 days ago)

seemingly does

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/radiohead-planet-telex-hexidecimal-dub-does-this-actually-exist.158082/

cant find a copy but....ysi.....etc

My list is definitely going to be slanted to the more rock-oriented tracks

this is it xp

if 20 yr old commercially unavailable tracks are too close to the copyright wind then admins pls delete......

www.f iledro pper.c om/hd_2

combination of lol 90s breaks and dreamy synth motif is a little reminiscient of those early boards of canada tapes that are floating about on the internet

Haha OMG spacey 90s dub synths and early Boards of Canada tapes, you have just described my ultimate dream Radiohead remix.

Like, I can't even remember the last time I was this excited about downloading something, and I'm only a minute and a half into it.

OK, it's Hexadecimal Mix, but without the vocals (well, duh, because that is what a Dub is) - which is, well... Radiohead songs without Thom on them are kinda like hot fudge sundaes without the sauce?

In theory the Hexidecimal Dub is 8 minutes long and it sounds different from the hexidecimal mix.

Rushomancy has supposedly heard it I was waiting for him to clear things up.

the track is more a curiosity than anything else

'ridiculously great' is just a little hyperbolic but there is a pattern where people get inordinately attached to obscurities by these sort of artists whose work is mostly so thoroughly gone over

the original hexidecimal mix is excellent

cuttooth is another fine minor track

if i were to vote it would probably be 8/10s of kid a, 'there there' and then b sides or ep tracks

ok, here's a shitty yt encode of hexidecimal dub: http://youtu.be/DvSI1Egqf2E

Well, that does sound significantly different from the Hexidecimal mix (this one does sound like it has a Boards of Canada synth going on) and I already checked and it's the one that nakhchivan shared upthread.

I have to agree with Shugazi, though. A Radiohead mix without Yorke's vocals isn't that fun. Great track, though.

the lfo planet telex remix is so much less than it ought to be

Well, Radiohead are kind of an unremixeable/uncoverable band. I haven't heard a remix or cover that improves on their original.

I dunno; I really liked some of the TKOL remixes. That remix disc was my "way in" to the album (though I never really hated it the way that a lot of people round here seem to have).

ballot sent

I bought The Bends after I heard Liberty X cover 'High and Dry' (Y). But yeah not many particularly good or interesting covers come to mind. Some people liked that stuff Brad Mehldau did.

there's also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCm6fbtPUMM

tho is it actually legit? Hardly sounds like JD at all

surprised myself by participating in this

ballot's fucked up as hell