haha ok shows what i know, i had no clue the keef headphones actually came out, n/m
― some dude, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 09:09 (nine years ago) link
i am on the tinfoil hat squad with deej regarding "hot nigga" rocketing up near the top 10 in the span of like a single month despite it being a rip off chicago rap songs that had mild if any chart or radio success
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XCioHuced4
fuck with it
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:52 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
def in a drill style but a hot song all its own
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link
its more exuberant than the standard drill register
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link
which chicago rap songs did "hot nigga" rip off
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:19 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
no i agree totally, it's just.... suspicious
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link
agreed
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
Bobby Shmurda jacked a beat from a Lloyd Banks song that was made by the producer of Meek Mill's biggest hits, nothing about the song really scans to be as more Chicago than east coast. I feel like Chicago came up and claimed ownership of this whole post-regional trap/nu-gangsta rap diaspora that is happening in dozens of different cities.
― some dude, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 16:02 (nine years ago) link
I mean he says "thot" but the whole world took that from Chicago a good while ago already
― some dude, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
lol @ that sped up version of wait being all over youtube. Here's the original version: http://www.soundcloudfile.com/fphbi5 (seems like he did this song in the last few days because he recently put up the beat to this on ig in the studio)
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 16:13 (nine years ago) link
Something about his music I find leaves me a bit cold though. Even the songs that I love seem too distant at times.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link
They also say "with the shits" and "broski" and us other Chicago slang, come on al. The use of adlibs, the video style, shmurda even says they were inspired by drill in interviews. And in his interview for global grind he basically says that pre-keef street rap was basically dead in his neighborhood and after everyone wanted to be a rapper
I do think the song is good and adds its own unique flavor to it, but saying it's not influenced by drill is nonsense
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
― some dude, Wednesday, September 17, 2014 11:03 AM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The whole world took that from ... Drill music. And, uh, "shmoney dance" is a takeoff on the name "money dance"...
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 16:56 (nine years ago) link
ok i'm not talking about slang or video style or even his inspiration, what chicago songs does "hot nigga" SOUND like? bobby shmurda doesn't rap like any chicago rapper i can think of, it's much more...straightforward rapping, cleaner-sounding beats
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link
i think it sounds chicago bc chicago figured out an east coast urban meets down south rap style & that's basically what this is ...
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
ppl keep talking about the beat like it's so farfetched that it would be used in chicago but there are plenty of chicago beatmakers who make east coast sounding beats in the street rap scene too like chase davis
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
i guess if you thought 'drill' was all fake lex luger you might get confused but
well lil durk has plenty of songs that sound like meek mill... his whole "52 bars" series, really
like this is a pure shmurda blueprint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgj4aV9GLbc
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link
king L has done a bunch of lyrical songs over jahlil beats sounding productions
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
east coast dudes seem more into the lil reese / LA Capone / Lil Herb type dudes who have a more NY friendly delivery IME.
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link
herb is another good example
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
there were a lot of people who fucked w/ reese most of all ... most people i talked to in ny thought he was the real talent or w/e the same way DC seems to have adopted Durk
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
yeah but his music doesn't sound like shmurda, i think there was just something in his attitude that appealed to new york types
his music at least was way more straightforward than keef's
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link
anyway most of the hyped 'crossover' songs out of Chicago since Finally Rich have been dogshit with no radio potential, including that crit bait I TERRIFY MY CITY one, you gotta be pretty dense to wonder why "Hot Nigga" and not those songs
― some dude, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link
there were multiple lil durk singles from lat year that were dope and had def jam's label push... i'm not saying those songsa re better than "hot nigga" or that the situations are 1:1 (all the vine stuff w/ shmurda) but there's a huge gulf between shmurda inching his way to a top 10 pop hit and durk not being able to break charts at all #TeamTinfoil
― snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:18 (nine years ago) link
to be clear, i think there's something to the argument that this succeeded almost bc it 'misunderstands' drill (or is less constrained by it) able to make shortcuts from pt a -> pt b much in the way Waka managed to make Gucci look overly subtle when he first came out. keef is still clearly the better & more influential artist. And there are plenty of radio-worthy singles from indie artists that don't get that signal boost from a major label
but shmurda is also standing on drill's shoulders bc the second he arrived major labels were chasing him and Epic capitalized on his viral single IMMEDIATELY. The second they could, they patched the song through coast to coast....at any rate i'm not making this up about radio not wanting to play drill shit:
via St Louis DJ: https://twitter.com/a_plus/status/507763276005265408https://twitter.com/a_plus/status/507763441789304832
i do think that chicago artists are majorly underrepresented on radio. that durk record was a major street hit though shipley. and is a dope song too wtf
but like ... all the bop records,
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
oops hit send too soon. you saw that interview with dj envy and co where they were like "yeah i've never heard of chance the rapper." its not like radio is paying attention to what's going on.
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link
almost two years ago 50 cent was telling us that interscope was about to drop keef from the label bc he stood 50 up in the desert. now 50 is not with interscope and keef still is. lol
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
Chance is just off that whole radar, by design really. unlike Keef or guys who signed with French Montana or whatever. it's weird to see the level of hysteria and sensitivity over anything having to do w/ violence in Chicago vs. how every other profitable gangsta rapper w/ a gun charge or whatever hasn't been distanced from the industry one bit.
― some dude, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link
thanks obama
― based grandpa (noz), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:14 (nine years ago) link
Enjoying all these #DRILLUMINATI conspiracy theories
― 龜, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
Wait, what about bop? Is it not being played? Being played instead?
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
Particularly enjoyed deej arguing that this east coast song is biting chicago dudes who are doing east coast styles
Love those lil durk singles from last year but they sound zero like this
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:49 (nine years ago) link
... the point was that nothing about the original jahlil beats production sounds like something you wouldn't hear in chicago
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link
that it can sound like drill music and have jahlil beats track.
it's even more obvious here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLd5mOs679M
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
huh this is not a collab i would have expected
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En2wUa6K1oI
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 September 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link
i kinda think shmoney dance (the orig) is more distinctive than hot nigga
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 September 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link
agreed.
i think that collab makes sense, hes from an area in ny that is very Caribbean derived
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 18 September 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:59 Bookmark
haha i hadnt heard this story before
bitch mustve been dreading a hit if etc
― r|t|c, Thursday, 18 September 2014 01:55 (nine years ago) link
sure, yeah i mean it makes kinda sense, and works p well musically, but i was just damn i haven't heard of elephant man in YEARS and dude is old enough to be all those dudes' father, like just if you gave me a million guesses who bobby shmurda's first big feature was gonna be i don't think i would have gotten it right
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 September 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link
ha wow parachute this reggae legend into central brooklyn to chill w some teens on their utube video
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 September 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link
nbd
ugh radio is really pushing "computers" :-/
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 18 September 2014 02:41 (nine years ago) link
rowdy rebel gone off that hemiola
― some dude, Thursday, 18 September 2014 03:06 (nine years ago) link
there was already a ragga remix of "Hot Nigga" w/ Junior Reid, Mavado, and Popcaan
― The Reverend, Thursday, 18 September 2014 04:04 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZJbHDmvLGUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XCioHuced4
― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 19 September 2014 09:37 (nine years ago) link
Dont Like and Bang came in with the shock effect like 36 Chambers, he peaked then.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, 19 September 2014 09:38 (nine years ago) link
― Raccoon Tanuki, Friday, September 19, 2014 4:38 AM (1 second ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah that stuff is #basic compared to the new shit
― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 19 September 2014 09:39 (nine years ago) link
Here this version of "wait" is the normal one, dunno what's up w/ that weird 'normal' youtube:https://www.audiomack.com/song/jjdajetplayne/wait-2