The biggest difficulty for me was conceptualizing of Palace of the Brine and Letter to Memphis as two separate songs. I always hear that as a mini-suite. Parts 1 & 2.
Yeah, I had Trompe on cassette for quite a long time before I bought it on cd, so I was surprised to find out they were two individual songs (even though I knew they were based on the tracklisting).
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 17 October 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
Broken Face is likely to be in my top 3, Hey probably won't even make the 22 .
― nate woolls, Friday, 17 October 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link
I shouldn't try to predict placings I know, but will God be 7?
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 17 October 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
Based on the balloting so far, The Devil is 5, Man is 6 and God is 7.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 17 October 2014 20:08 (nine years ago) link
"Hey"'s landslide win in the Doolittle poll was shocking to me. It's a fine song but fairly middling in the context of the Pixies' catalog on the whole, IMO. Had no idea it was held in such high esteem by so many.
― What Lies Behind The Beehive? (Old Lunch), Friday, 17 October 2014 20:12 (nine years ago) link
fuk I messed up my own joke
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 17 October 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link
There's something so sexy and wrong and desperate at the way Frank sings 'We're Chained' in Hey that makes it one of my favorite songs by them. Cactus is my number 2 pick for the same reasons, I love the bent sex world and lusty yearning they share.
― Moka, Friday, 17 October 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link
I had me a vision...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 17 October 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
so, which tracks are people voting for off Indie Cindy?
― prince moth mothy moth moth (cajunsunday), Friday, 17 October 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link
Expect a very Bossanova and Trompe Le Monde-heavy ballot from yours truly.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Saturday, 18 October 2014 03:33 (nine years ago) link
My ballot's in!
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 18 October 2014 12:57 (nine years ago) link
Just sent my ballot. Of all the ILM polls I've participated in (not that many, actually), this was the hardest to do. So many great songs! I've been on a Trompe Le Monde binge the past few days thanks to this poll. I used to consider it somewhat of a lesser Pixies record, but now I like it more than Bossanova. It's just as classic as the other Pixies records.
― Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Saturday, 18 October 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
I just want to stick up for Brick Is Red, which I think is fantastic, but will probably get overlooked.
― Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 18 October 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link
Brick is Red is terrific!
― its a kirt not a skilt (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 18 October 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link
8 ballots in already. MOAR PLZ
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 18 October 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link
I did vote for Brick is Red... it's on the lower part of my ballot, but it's definitely one of the best songs on Surfer Rosa. That and Oh my Golly! save the last part of the album from being a mess, the highlights seem to be stacked on the first half.
― Moka, Saturday, 18 October 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Not that the second half is necessarily bad but it just doesn't compare to the first half.
― Moka, Saturday, 18 October 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
The opening two tracks are probably the best
― Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 18 October 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link
This is gonna be fun when I can get around to blasting the lps again. Was always a big, big fan of Trompe le Monde - some of their most beautiful tunes are on there.
Something about the typeface on Surfer Rosa always made me think that song was called Buick is Red.
― kraudive, Saturday, 18 October 2014 19:58 (nine years ago) link
I think its similar to a lot of the 4ad stuff. I got some earlier Lush song names wrong as well, I think. I always thought their first record was called Sear when I was a kid. Maybe it was just me.
― kraudive, Saturday, 18 October 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
"What's your guys' philosophy of the world?" is what the interviewer asked the band in that clip up there, just so everyone's clear.
I have never voted in a poll before but may try to do this one tonight.
― alpine static, Saturday, 18 October 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link
I used to have this idea that Velouria and Wave of Mutilation and River Euphrates were basically the same song. I'm not convinced by this any more.
― Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 18 October 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link
BTW I had a tough decision between "rate songs by my 'objective' opinion of how amazing they are" vs. "rate songs by how deeply embedded into my sense of self they were between 1988 and 1993" and I went with the later, partly because I didn't have time to do a scientific re-listening to all the songs in the catalog. So my ballot is CoP/SR/Doolittle heavy, because those were the records I cared about most at the time. Hoping this poll will illuminate the later records for me.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 18 October 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
River Euphrates = probably my #1
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 October 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
Oh man, this is going to be hard. Voted all Pixies off the iPod a long time ago so haven't heard a note in years, but listening to that clip of "Dead" above made me realize how many of their songs are hardwired into my amygdala. Will listen scientifically & vote from the guts.
― hardcore dilettante, Sunday, 19 October 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
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They share the same backbone but the style is very different depending on the album. You can listen to the three in a row and note their evolution. surfer rosa is loose and unruly like a child, doolitle is more confident and lush and bossanova is more forlorn and fatalistic. It may sound like I'm on drugs but they capture the esence of each record and the stages of the band perfectly the "childhood" (river euphrates), the teen years (wave of mutilation) and adulthood (Velouria).
― Moka, Sunday, 19 October 2014 08:08 (nine years ago) link
In an effort to be completely thorough before making my ballot, I'm listening to Indie Cindy again for the first time since it showed up earlier this year. These songs aren't as objectively horrible/bland as I remember them all being, but Charles Thompson is an old lazy man now who picks melodically low-hanging fruit rather than approaching songwriting from bizarre angles like he did in his youth.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link
Everything is still too long, though. Shortest thing is 3:11, which would be among the longer tracks on any previous Pixies album.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
The problem I have with Indie Cindy is that it sounds like they're trying too hard to live up to their past output. They're not the type of band that should over-think things. Nobody was asking for a new album so they might as well just had fun with it.
― Moka, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link
I've given Bossanova a few listens and there's nothing there that'll make my ballot. Trompe le Monde is better but it's looking likely that my ballot will be all CoP/SR/D.
― nate woolls, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link
i was at a wedding over the weekend and managed to get my table debating he best pixies tracks.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 20 October 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link
Excellent work!
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link
I've given Bossanova a few listens and there's nothing there that'll make my ballot.
― nate woolls, Monday, October 20, 2014 7:35 PM (1 hour ago)
Velouria!!
ffs. really.
― kraudive, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link
Yeah Velouria is alright but there's 22 better songs on the other albums.
― nate woolls, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
pixies + muffs might have worked out better if kim shattuck replaced frank black instead.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 October 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link
Bossanova is just not a very good album.
― Darin, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 03:26 (nine years ago) link
I disagree. I love it and never understood why people were disapointed by it. Maybe they expected something less polished but there isn't really a bad song on it and the first 8 are as solid as any of their best work. To me it sounds a lot like what The Breeders would do later except better.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link
I hadn't heard Distance = Rate x Time in decades. That is a doozy! Holy cow
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 04:35 (nine years ago) link
Voted. A Doolittle heavy but Bossanova and Trompe le Monde friendly ballot. One from Surfer Rosa. None from Come on Pilgrim.
― ledge, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 08:32 (nine years ago) link
I love Bossanova so much. It was my first Pixies and I bought it at the same time I got The Bends. You can hear where early Radiohead lifted from it.
Q: Kelley Deal 6000 for the side poll--I assume, nay?
― its a kirt not a skilt (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 11:08 (nine years ago) link
bossnova is fine in isolation but listening to COP thru TLM back to back it was remarkable just how much worse than everything else it is.
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:44 (nine years ago) link
Trompe le Monde - 9Doolittle - 8 Surfer Rosa - 5
I've only listened to Come On, Pilgrim and Bossanova once each.
― how's life, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:55 (nine years ago) link
Giving Bossanova & Trompe le Monde one more listen this afternoon then putting my ballot together tonight. Expecting a lot of Surfer Rosa, a little of Doolittle and one or two from Come On Pilgrim.
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link
Misheard lyrics that I only just got around to looking up:
Fall on your face in those bad shoesLion-O lockjawTAME!
― how's life, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link
COP 4SR 6D 8B 1TLM 3
pixies b-sides range from bad to mediocre without exception, i don't understand the tremendous appeal they apparently have
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 13:24 (nine years ago) link
I like 'Into the White' and the two Neil Young covers a lot but they'd barely make my top 30 Pixies songs.
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:01 (nine years ago) link
<3 "Bird Dream of the Olympus Mons"
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link
I'm working my way though this based on how much I like these tunes right now, rather than what I liked >20 years ago. So, Debaser, which I loved, probably won't make the cut because I feel like I've heard it faaaaaaaaaar too many times.
― Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link
At least we can all agree Doolitle is the tits, right?
― Moka, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link
I danced around it for a long time, but I finally made peace with the fact their most popular album (Doolittle) is also their best (Doolittle).
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link
Actually, it might well have done, but I think you've still got a few hours left to vote
― Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 24 October 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
12 midnight edt is +4 in gmt.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 24 October 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link
If the devil is +4 gmt, then god is +5 gmt. No way I'm going to make it, read abt this too late, still working. But watching this closely.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 24 October 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
Sent.
― its a kirt not a skilt (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 24 October 2014 23:16 (nine years ago) link
i feel bad that lots of you guys are obviously putting much more work into this than i did
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 24 October 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link
can i still vote? it will take me an hour or so - i've already made a 30 song shortlist.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 25 October 2014 00:05 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, right around 4 hours left.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 25 October 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link
cheers Johnny.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 25 October 2014 00:10 (nine years ago) link
sent x
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link
Bossa=6Pilgrim= 6Trompe=3Surfer=4Doo=3
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 25 October 2014 02:05 (nine years ago) link
I went Doolittle heavy...
Doolittle: 9Surfer Rosa: 5Bossanova: 3Trompe Le Monde: 3COI: 2
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 25 October 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link
LAST CALL - 51 minutes left.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 25 October 2014 03:08 (nine years ago) link
when you plan on rolling out the results?
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 25 October 2014 03:21 (nine years ago) link
COI: 2
COME ON ILGRIM
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 25 October 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link
C = 1S = 7D = 5B = 5T = 1 + 3 B-sides
― its a kirt not a skilt (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 25 October 2014 03:25 (nine years ago) link
<i>when you plan on rolling out the results?</i>
Will start things on Monday.
And with that...voting is closed!
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 25 October 2014 03:59 (nine years ago) link
41 ballots, btw. Good haul!
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 25 October 2014 04:00 (nine years ago) link
Make that 42, but that's it. No more.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 25 October 2014 05:10 (nine years ago) link
There's only two acceptable winners in this poll: Hey or Debaser. Don't let me down ILM.
Thanks for doing this JF.
― Moka, Saturday, 25 October 2014 10:01 (nine years ago) link
42 is a great haul!
― raccoon shipoopi (how's life), Saturday, 25 October 2014 10:53 (nine years ago) link
soooooo psyched for this
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 25 October 2014 12:42 (nine years ago) link
Hey Paul, Hey Paul, Hey Paul, let's have a POLL: ILM Artist Poll #69 • Pixies (results!)
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 October 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link