Your POLL's got a little machine: ILM Artist Poll #71 • Pixies (Voting Thread)

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I think its similar to a lot of the 4ad stuff. I got some earlier Lush song names wrong as well, I think. I always thought their first record was called Sear when I was a kid. Maybe it was just me.

kraudive, Saturday, 18 October 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link

"What's your guys' philosophy of the world?" is what the interviewer asked the band in that clip up there, just so everyone's clear.

I have never voted in a poll before but may try to do this one tonight.

alpine static, Saturday, 18 October 2014 20:53 (nine years ago) link

I used to have this idea that Velouria and Wave of Mutilation and River Euphrates were basically the same song. I'm not convinced by this any more.

Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 18 October 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

BTW I had a tough decision between "rate songs by my 'objective' opinion of how amazing they are" vs. "rate songs by how deeply embedded into my sense of self they were between 1988 and 1993" and I went with the later, partly because I didn't have time to do a scientific re-listening to all the songs in the catalog. So my ballot is CoP/SR/Doolittle heavy, because those were the records I cared about most at the time. Hoping this poll will illuminate the later records for me.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 18 October 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

River Euphrates = probably my #1

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 October 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

Oh man, this is going to be hard. Voted all Pixies off the iPod a long time ago so haven't heard a note in years, but listening to that clip of "Dead" above made me realize how many of their songs are hardwired into my amygdala. Will listen scientifically & vote from the guts.

hardcore dilettante, Sunday, 19 October 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link

I used to have this idea that Velouria and Wave of Mutilation and River Euphrates were basically the same song. I'm not convinced by this any more.

― Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), sábado 18 de octubre de 2014 22:22 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They share the same backbone but the style is very different depending on the album. You can listen to the three in a row and note their evolution. surfer rosa is loose and unruly like a child, doolitle is more confident and lush and bossanova is more forlorn and fatalistic. It may sound like I'm on drugs but they capture the esence of each record and the stages of the band perfectly the "childhood" (river euphrates), the teen years (wave of mutilation) and adulthood (Velouria).

Moka, Sunday, 19 October 2014 08:08 (nine years ago) link

In an effort to be completely thorough before making my ballot, I'm listening to Indie Cindy again for the first time since it showed up earlier this year. These songs aren't as objectively horrible/bland as I remember them all being, but Charles Thompson is an old lazy man now who picks melodically low-hanging fruit rather than approaching songwriting from bizarre angles like he did in his youth.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link

Everything is still too long, though. Shortest thing is 3:11, which would be among the longer tracks on any previous Pixies album.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link

The problem I have with Indie Cindy is that it sounds like they're trying too hard to live up to their past output. They're not the type of band that should over-think things. Nobody was asking for a new album so they might as well just had fun with it.

Moka, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link

I've given Bossanova a few listens and there's nothing there that'll make my ballot. Trompe le Monde is better but it's looking likely that my ballot will be all CoP/SR/D.

nate woolls, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:35 (nine years ago) link

i was at a wedding over the weekend and managed to get my table debating he best pixies tracks.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 20 October 2014 18:37 (nine years ago) link

Excellent work!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

I've given Bossanova a few listens and there's nothing there that'll make my ballot.

― nate woolls, Monday, October 20, 2014 7:35 PM (1 hour ago)

Velouria!!

ffs. really.

kraudive, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link

Yeah Velouria is alright but there's 22 better songs on the other albums.

nate woolls, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link

pixies + muffs might have worked out better if kim shattuck replaced frank black instead.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 October 2014 22:58 (nine years ago) link

Bossanova is just not a very good album.

Darin, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 03:26 (nine years ago) link

I disagree. I love it and never understood why people were disapointed by it. Maybe they expected something less polished but there isn't really a bad song on it and the first 8 are as solid as any of their best work.
To me it sounds a lot like what The Breeders would do later except better.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link

I hadn't heard Distance = Rate x Time in decades. That is a doozy! Holy cow

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 04:35 (nine years ago) link

Voted. A Doolittle heavy but Bossanova and Trompe le Monde friendly ballot. One from Surfer Rosa. None from Come on Pilgrim.

ledge, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 08:32 (nine years ago) link

I love Bossanova so much. It was my first Pixies and I bought it at the same time I got The Bends. You can hear where early Radiohead lifted from it.

Q: Kelley Deal 6000 for the side poll--I assume, nay?

its a kirt not a skilt (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 11:08 (nine years ago) link

bossnova is fine in isolation but listening to COP thru TLM back to back it was remarkable just how much worse than everything else it is.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:44 (nine years ago) link

Trompe le Monde - 9
Doolittle - 8
Surfer Rosa - 5

I've only listened to Come On, Pilgrim and Bossanova once each.

how's life, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:55 (nine years ago) link

Giving Bossanova & Trompe le Monde one more listen this afternoon then putting my ballot together tonight. Expecting a lot of Surfer Rosa, a little of Doolittle and one or two from Come On Pilgrim.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link

Misheard lyrics that I only just got around to looking up:

Fall on your face in those bad shoes
Lion-O lockjaw
TAME!

how's life, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 13:01 (nine years ago) link

COP 4
SR 6
D 8
B 1
TLM 3

pixies b-sides range from bad to mediocre without exception, i don't understand the tremendous appeal they apparently have

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 13:24 (nine years ago) link

I like 'Into the White' and the two Neil Young covers a lot but they'd barely make my top 30 Pixies songs.

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:01 (nine years ago) link

<3 "Bird Dream of the Olympus Mons"

J. Sam, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link

I'm working my way though this based on how much I like these tunes right now, rather than what I liked >20 years ago. So, Debaser, which I loved, probably won't make the cut because I feel like I've heard it faaaaaaaaaar too many times.

Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 15:10 (nine years ago) link

At least we can all agree Doolitle is the tits, right?

Moka, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

I danced around it for a long time, but I finally made peace with the fact their most popular album (Doolittle) is also their best (Doolittle).

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:28 (nine years ago) link

I think the most popular sales-wise is actually Surfer Rosa but I don't have the actual numbers. Just a wild guess.

Moka, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link

Doolittle was a platinum album in the US (1m in sales), and only one of the others—Surfer Rosa—is even gold (500k in sales).

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:35 (nine years ago) link

Did a quick research and no, you're right, Doolitle is the most popular one. Here's the sales figures according to SoundScan in 2004:

Come On Pilgrim: 144,598
Surfer Rosa: 458,491
Doolittle: 583,564
Bossanova: 215,217
Trompe Le Monde: 306,697
Complete B-Sides: 42,703
Live at the BBC: 49,308
Death To The Pixies: 146,012
Purple Tape: 30,212

Wikipedia actually gives Doolitle over 1,000,000 sales and Surfer over 500,000. Did Doolitle sold almost double that figure in this past decade?

Moka, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link

I think SoundScan might have its numbers wrong, though.

Moka, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:37 (nine years ago) link

Doolittle hit a million in November 1995. Surfer Rosa didn't go gold until April 2005.

http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=SEARCH

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link

That link lists that Doolitle hit Gold in 1995, not Platinum. It doesn't certificate it as Platinum yet.

Moka, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:42 (nine years ago) link

Oh, you're right! I didn't even read all the way across. :D

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link

Anyhow... your point stands, Doolitle is way more popular than Surfer Rosa. Had no idea.

Moka, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:45 (nine years ago) link

Bossanova was a momentum killer for them. Strong record, but it didn't take them to the next level commercially.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link

Surfer Rosa picked up a lot of cache over time, but it wasn't a landmark record in any way in 1988. Doolittle had MTV video rotation, lots of college radio support and press fawning out the wazoo.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

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Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

I was expecting that the popularity of Where is My Mind through licensing in films, tv and ads would translate in higher sales. I was wrong.

Moka, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

I mean most people only know them because of that song, usually the best-known single is also on the best-selling album, nay?

Moka, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

lol I'm not trying to say it was a bad guess. Surfer Rosa is the Pixies album in the 21st century both in terms of respect and influence. It just wasn't seen as that at the time. (And I happen to still prefer Doolittle regardless.)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 17:55 (nine years ago) link

Surfer Rosa is the Pixies album in the 21st century in terms of boobs.

how's life, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:04 (nine years ago) link

..I'm not merging things together

I hope the Vamos votes aren't split too much, that song deserves a top 10 place.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:24 (nine years ago) link

Oh damn, I may have to merge things on a case-by-case basis. I didn't think of there being two album versions of Vamos when I rattled off that declaration.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link

Was is she weird a single from Bossanova? I can't remember.It seems like the closest in terms of style to what came before.

Hinklepicker, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:29 (nine years ago) link

never realized just how awesome that track is until i was listening to tracks for the poll! that and Levitate Me have been in my head for a week now.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:41 (nine years ago) link

42 is a great haul!

raccoon shipoopi (how's life), Saturday, 25 October 2014 10:53 (nine years ago) link

soooooo psyched for this

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 25 October 2014 12:42 (nine years ago) link


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