They Will Not Go Quietly: The Official ILM Track-By-Track DON 'n' GLENN Listening Thread

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He and Lindsey must have had some intense afro-ed glare-offs.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link

LP cover photo tie-in lyric: "the toaster don't work...this house don't work no more"

col, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 13:26 (nine years ago) link

"Long Way Home": Reminds me some of Randy Newman, particularly in the verse about stuff not working. Once again we get a harbinger for future successes, as this looks forward to tracks like "Not Enough Love In The World" and "The Heart of The Matter". Nice (non-Don, I presume) brushed drums. Fine harmonies.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link

Believe it is the legendary, late Jeff Porcaro.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link

not a Sexy Girl -- you know, THAT girl.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 October 2014 11:07 (nine years ago) link

Oh lord that picture.

carl agatha, Thursday, 30 October 2014 12:35 (nine years ago) link

Bob Seger gets a songwriting credit on this one

Whoever's playing the drums has a much lighter, more effective touch than Don's thud.

Glenn thinks he's being sweet here but there's still a layer of contempt brewing just underneath. that girl

and in his absence, she (Lee626), Thursday, 30 October 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link

The guitars (assuming they're his) are played and mixed nicely.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 October 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link

yeah, some of Glenn's phrasing is rank--the whiny "that girl"s, as Lee said, and you don't believe him when he says "IN LUHHVE!"---but this is still competent, even pleasant light rock and as such a triumph by Glenn's typical standards. The ponderousness of "The One You Love" is here too: wouldn't hurt to lop 45 seconds off and maybe nudge the tempo up a notch.

col, Thursday, 30 October 2014 13:14 (nine years ago) link

I'd long thought "The One You Love" was some generic late-'70s yacht-rocker, had no idea that was Glenn Frey.

and in his absence, she (Lee626), Thursday, 30 October 2014 15:46 (nine years ago) link

I like the production on both of these, actually. The One You Love could have been pleasant AC background music if not for the better-do-what-i-say-or-else lyric

and in his absence, she (Lee626), Thursday, 30 October 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

they just wished Timothy B. Schmit a happy birthday on the radio after playing a Meisner-era Eagles song, I'm offended

some dude, Thursday, 30 October 2014 15:52 (nine years ago) link

well, yeah

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 October 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link

"That Girl": This is nice. I can't comment much on the lyrics cause I was doing other stuff while listening, and zoned out on them. The opening bit about driving is more evocative than usual. Seems like he's trying to do "I Can't Tell You Why" again tho.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 October 2014 20:15 (nine years ago) link

Quick fact: when first single "Johnny Can't Read" flopped, the company got nervous until this thing sailed into the top three.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 October 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link

Are we getting Donstered for Halloween?

XP Nevermind! We skipped a song again tho.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 31 October 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link

I'll get to it Sunday; flipping from album to album has gotten confusing, I noticed.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 October 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link

"Dirty Laundry": Obviously this has been played to death on radio, but with good reason! A+ Groove, enough ideas to sustain the running time (imagine if there'd been a club mix!), two cool guitar solos (Walsh and/or Steve Lukather, iirc). The downside: This is the grand reappearance of Cranky Don, and if you're one for subtext, the 'inspiration' behind this one is truly gagworthy. But this time the hectoring smugness has some economy, and...that groove, man. It's kind of crazy that there wasn't a proper music video done for this.

Related:

80s Toronto News Guys (Clemenza might know 'em) have fun w/"Dirty Laundry": http://youtu.be/YHimia_Fxzs
The Donster serenades his close personal friends Bill & Hillary in 1993: http://youtu.be/7NmYpJ2R9Ps

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 31 October 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link

Always dug "Dirty Laundry." I had no idea Henley had been in the Eagles until years after first hearing this; it sounds positively anti-Eagles.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 31 October 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link

at least he sounds rarin' to go and hip to MTV-esque New wave a la Rod Stewart's "Young Turks."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 October 2014 15:26 (nine years ago) link

Whereas Glenn was still stuck on "Hot Legs"

GLENN: You would be too!
DON: Well, yeah.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 31 October 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

when I reviewed the 2003 Eagles show and they took their solo turns (Schmitt wasn't allowed "Boys Night Out" though) "Dirty Laundry" was pretty ferocious, thanks to loud drumming not by Henley and Walsh's solo. Frey choosing the dinkiest keyboard preset almost ruined it though.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 October 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

No Glenn for this post-Monstered day?

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 November 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

was at the picture show

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 November 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link

Third single and Frey's only solo composition.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 November 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link

Man, Glenn days are tumbleweed time in Freytown.

"All Those Lies": Ah, nice groove, Glenn at home with a sleazy (read: honest) lyric. The shift to chorus doesn't quite fit in for me. A little bridge would have been nice. Did Hawkins & Hood play on the whole album? Explains all the soulboy posturing and why the rhythms are more pleasing than general Eaglefare.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 November 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link

My favorite Glenn song so far.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 November 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link

been off line for most of the weekend but will catch up tomorrow: these are both good songs!

col, Sunday, 2 November 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link

"Talking To The Moon": Once again very-Newman-esque. Quite pleasant. Seems like it would lend itself well to a Country cover by George Strait or somebody. This also feels like the first Don track so far that could have been an Eagles song, and a good one at that.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 2 November 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link

Garth Hudson on synth. Oh Garth what have ye wrought

calstars, Monday, 3 November 2014 01:37 (nine years ago) link

TS: "The Moon Struck One" vs. "Talking To The Moon"

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 November 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link

"Tllking to the Moon" sounds generic to me; it didn't surprise me that J.D. Syphilis co-wrote it.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 November 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link

After you said Newman-esque I imagined (pretty easily) a Randy Newman solo-piano cover of "Dirty Laundry."

the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Monday, 3 November 2014 05:07 (nine years ago) link

how bout a Colin Newman cover of "I Can't Stand Still"

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 November 2014 11:52 (nine years ago) link

I keep waiting for the "New Kid in Town" chorus to cut in

and in his absence, she (Lee626), Monday, 3 November 2014 12:01 (nine years ago) link

ok, need to catch up:

"Dirty Laundry": Better than pretty much anything the Eagles ever recorded, despite the echt-Henley lyric full of contempt, "sociopolitical criticism" and casual sexism. Walsh's solos and Porcaro's drums help, plus the mix full of ringing phones, Yello-style distorted vocals and other noises that suggests Don (well, probably Kortchmar) was actually having fun in the studio.

"All Those Lies": Glenn always could do sleaze well, no question---mix in some paranoia and a comfortable groove and you've got the best track on the album. Still goes on a bit too long.

"Talking to the Moon": agree this feels like a Eagles holdover (or a songwriting exercise where Don tried to write a Zevon ballad), & also has a of the End of Innocence to come. Garth Hudson adds ice-skating-routine incidental synths.

"She Can't Let Go": Lee's right: this is Glenn, at a loss, trying to rewrite "New Kid in Town" but forgetting to write a refrain this time.

col, Monday, 3 November 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link

"She Can't Let Go": This is like Glenn saying, "Hey Guys! Remember Me? I Was In THE EAGLES!" Again. Total re-visitation of the "New Kid In Town" wheelhouse. I like "NKIT", so maybe that's why I find this tolerable. That, and it clocks in at only 3:11! Less Waste!

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 02:03 (nine years ago) link

Chris Isaak could do a great cover of that one.

the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 05:15 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, or The Mavericks/Raul Malo.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 07:30 (nine years ago) link

Still-Relevant to Election Day Donster Jam Coming?

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:27 (nine years ago) link

I need to find Don's classic snot-nosed explanation.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:45 (nine years ago) link

DON: My mother was a teacher and she used to come home all the time and say she couldn’t understand how they passed these kids from one grade to another when they didn’t have the basic reading or learning skills. It was appalling then, and they still do it. Randy Newman always thought it was a brave song because I blamed the kid. In our liberal society, it was always fasihonable to blame the teachers, the schools, the parents, anybody but Johnny himself. I just thought that it was time to blame Johnny for his own failure. Plus, where I grew up football was God. Still is. If you were in the band you were a sissy, looked down upon. You know, it’s good-to-be-stupid anti-intellectualism.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link


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