▼Arbre Mort▼ aka Willow Smith

None of what they are talking about sounds very much like Scientology jargon tbh.

More like good old-fashioned common sense.

― Sonic Dieways (latebloomer), Monday, November 17, 2014 11:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol this is exactly what scientology's child curriculum is like, "let's use common sense to build everything up from base principles"

these kids are pretty entertaining, though. I like the concept of Willow and Jaden.

the jaden album is pretty enjoyable boom bap via based god stuff tbh

Personally, I agree that Will Smith pushing the 100m creation of a sci-fi metaphor for passing the movie star torch to his son is exceptional madness, and considering the family's history with scientology (google "new village leadership academy") "these kids are trip!" is arguably a glib assessment of the situation.

However, if you find yourself regularly pleading with ilx to give you the benefit of the doubt that your bile is devoid of sexism/racism/etc maybe you should consider how you've been expressing that bile

"these kids are a trip!" i mean

I love when this thread refers to these individuals as "The Smiths"

Bel Air, Here We Come

willow be on some osho shit

Girlfriends in a Coma Ain't Nothin' But Trouble

willow and jaden's celebrity/privilege is a red herring imo, teenagers of all backgrounds can be pretentious in exactly this way

but remarkably few can then go out and buy a life that matches those pretentions

i'm as KILL THE RICH philosophically as anyone but i find it very hard to get annoyed by celebrities compared to other rich people

since we've had some thread crossover, The Smiths (lol) weren't content to do this to only their own kids

http://tonyortega.org/2013/11/18/exclusive-first-interview-with-the-principal-of-will-jada-smiths-shuttered-scientology-school/

i'm as KILL THE RICH philosophically as anyone but i find it very hard to get annoyed by celebrities compared to other rich people

...

love yr bread and circuses do ya

i'd really read that interview with their teacher before assuming these guys are just lit magazine types with millions falling out of their pockets

Former Scientology official Claire Headley has helped us understand the three basic concepts of Study Technology in our series, “Up the Bridge.” We can quickly summarize them. Hubbard believed that students had problems primarily because they skipped over words they didn’t fully understand. So at the heart of Study Tech is the “misunderstood word” or MU, which is solved by meticulously looking up chains of words in dictionaries, called “word clearing.” Second, Hubbard felt that students missed concepts because they were too abstract. He solved this by requiring a lot of modeling in clay and other materials. And third, Hubbard said learning had to happen on a gradient, meaning that advanced concepts can’t be understood until many intermediate steps are introduced first.

In our discussions with Claire, it became obvious that although these ideas appear somewhat like common sense, Scientology takes them to extremes, so that students spend huge amounts of time looking up small words like “an” or “the,” and hours go into making clay models of simple ideas.

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“It could have been a great school. But they were so vigilant about the Scientology aspect of it. In a fourth grade class, they were reading a first-grade text because they were so worried about the kids running into a misunderstood word. If a couple of kids got into a scuffle at recess, that also had to be the result of a misunderstood word,” she says. “It was so dull. The teachers were so bogged down following these rules, but that’s what Will and Jada wanted.”

up-the-bridge corner

willow and jaden's celebrity/privilege is a red herring imo, teenagers of all backgrounds can be pretentious in exactly this way

― lex pretend, Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:37 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you only care about them because they are celebrities tho

pretending like this stuff is garden-variety teenager speak is ignoring a good deal of what's going on here

Don't be an SP.

I have no real knowledge of the Scientology connections underlining their comments here, so I can only go on how strange these things do or don't sound on their own. As someone who works with teenagers regularly, a lot of this wouldn't make my top 5 of weirdest shit I've heard teenagers earnestly say.

I once was a teenager who went to a school with other teenagers, and if someone had said " I mean, time for me, I can make it go slow or fast, however I please, and that’s how I know it doesn’t exist" i would have found that quite odd.

I certainly wouldn't have.

i read this to my girlfriend and she said "yeah, that sounds like the weird shit i would say in middle school."

it's possible i've forgotten about all the hall locker chatter about duality consciousness, prana energy and how driver's ed obviously isn't helping if everyone's having accidents

I once was a teenager who went to a school with other teenagers, and if someone had said " I mean, time for me, I can make it go slow or fast, however I please, and that’s how I know it doesn’t exist" i would have found that quite odd.

― da croupier, Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:37 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you can't admit things like this in public! you will be weaponized by the government if they find out!

haha the last thing is actually the closest thing to normal idiot teenager talk of like everything he says

some of the shit about creativity, sure yeah, anybody with a poetry book could spout it, but if there's genuinely nothing exceptional about what these kids are saying, we wouldn't be saying it was awesome

This interview has been edited and condensed.

Directors cut plz.

willow and jaden's celebrity/privilege is a red herring imo, teenagers of all backgrounds can be pretentious in exactly this way

― lex pretend, Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:37 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, i found this pretty fun though i also see where outic is coming from.

but yea there ain't NO fucking way i'd want my teenage or college writing/art/poetry/thoughts to be broadcast out into the world. i guarantee you i said shit similar to this for years as a kid. fuck dude i said shit like this monday night after smoking up a little!

i could be blind to the scientology bullshit behind this though. i have willfully avoided that shit

but aren't you interested in taking a free stress test?

lol

https://twitter.com/bellhooks/status/519668755224215553

full circle to the earlier picture there

has anyone raised the possibility that they're just trolling everyone, at least on some level?

can't even get outraged by that if they are, really, if i was a scion of a famous couple who from what we can gather seem to have gone fairly off the rails as human beings/parents, i'd be pretty disaffected & looking to fuck with the media on a sizable scale if given the opportunity.

jaden's music is sub-gambino crap, willow's is more interesting at least, like B-minus level erykah or janelle monae

they are 16 and 14 respectively

yeah cut the kid some slack, you shouldn't be able to outdo Childish Gambino until 17 anyway

when was the last time will smith was in a good movie btw? does 'i am legend' count as "good"?

he has never been in a good movie

well aware of their ages, but anything that reminds me of donald glover in any way brings me into rage mode

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA he has been in SEVERAL

family's collective output has been complete garbage since hmm let's see when did Menace II Society come out, 1993?

none of them are in menace II society IIRC

Six Degrees of Separation (1993)
Men in Black (1997)
Enemy of the State (1998)

^^^all vv good.

'ali' has its moments, but jada was in the much better mann movie ('collateral'.)

oh, jada. well that's pre smithification.

will alone has enemy of the state, independence day, ali, the first bad boys is disposable action fun (the second is something kind of vulgar tho)

jada was great in kill bill

that's Vivica Fox!

wtf that was Vivica Fox? nvm