Your Biggest Musical Disappointment.......

And Vic: sorry for assuming you're a "he". Feel free to correct

collardo OTM on all points and yes I am very upset about all that shit as well, sorry again for projecting

I remember being really really bummed out by the Legendary Pink Dots' Shadow Weaver, I was broke in the early 90's and had bought it new for , y'know, probably $16 or so. it's generally rated as one of the weakest albums (otm), and it followed The Maria Dimension which is a consensus high point in the discography. 22 years later and I can still recall the "I could have eaten for a few days on that" feeling, along with the "should I ever buy anything by this band again" feeling

fwiw I still have the fucking thing b/c I am a dumbass completist, plus it does have a few solid tracks which is all I need to keep a CD around

I'm a MANNNN, yes I am & I can't help but love you so....

Yeah very much enraged over cops getting away with murder again and again, and ridiculous excuses for. Which tend suspiciously to get super-micro, as if there weren't some sort of larger patterns or anything.

somebody who is totally into Shadow Weaver should get in here and argue with me, where's jjjusten when you need him

now that I think about it I could probably have eaten for close to a week on $16 in 1992! bread, eggs, beans, rice, greens. CDs really were a scam, weren't they?

Mass disappointment: I think there's a disturbance in the force, or the farce, at the temporal moment when Peter Frampton's "I'm in You" appearance. I don't know how people now feel about the pop juggernaut/endurance test that was Frampton Comes Alive, but that next album & single with its snicker-producing title....I mean, wow. I can remember hearing it: the new Frampton single! (I had been a fan, I was like 13 or 14) and then it goes on: "I'm in YOUUU....You're in MEEEEEE"

What an odd phenomenon that was. "Comes Alive" has to be the album with the least subsequent influence in proportion to its popularity, like, ever.

Btw I always thought of Leo Sayer as the reductio ab absurdum of Frampton, and Richard Simmons as the reductio ad absurdum of Sayer.

I think you are right with the FCA popularity-to-influence level. Although the career winner has to be John Denver. He was inescapable. Now quite escapable.

Richard Simmons always reminded me of Leo Sayer. Sayer though had this oddball appearing in mime makeup thing going on for a while that isn't very Frampton like.

The (fake) rock critic writing the liner notes to Aja mentions at the start he has just completed a "lukewarm review" of a Leo Sayer live concert. Those notes are hysterical, for years I thought they were real.

The albums made possible by In a Silent Way are much better than IASW itself.

which albums do you have in mind?

The Necks discography, for one.

the necks was a big disappointment indeed. everything i heard from them was so bloody repetitive. a positive surprise in this kind of instrumental, calm & slow music was bohren und der club of gore. really sublime night music with a dark undertone.

sorry i think i got it wrong, you didn't cite the necks as disappointment. still i didn't get them.

I have a Necks' album and to compare in any way to 'In a Silent Way' would be laughable.

I have a lot of disappointments about genres not being what I expected or not having enough of the elements I liked best or bands going in a direction I wasn't as fond of, but generally in both cases I don't think I can blame them for not creating the sort of music I want to hear.

xp: About 8,540 results for "the necks" "in a silent way"

It isn't a novel comparison. One could also look at Hassell or late Talk Talk for other interesting directions taken from IASW. It's certainly a great album, but like many great albums, I find its influence to be much greater than the actual sound, in hindsight.

I love the Necks (and have been lucky enough to see them live) and love IASW and am glad I don't have to choose, but if I did have to choose only one to ever hear again, I'd pick that 39 minutes of magic over the Necks entire discog.

I feel sorry for anyone who finds disappointment in the wondrous beauty of The Necks.

never heard of Hassell and have avoided Necks because of the name, but may investigate.....
yeah, bohren & der club of gore are excellent ....
Sanpaku, did you hear IASW after having already heard Necks, Hassell, Talk Talk, etc?

Jon Hassell, in case of confusion.

I don't think I can blame them for not creating the sort of music I want to hear.

Which reminds me, when I finally got a copy of "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts", having heard bits and pieces of it over the years, I found it to be pretty disappointing.(xp)

Yeah, me too but again I think its because its influence has permeated a lot of things, it seems less, um, original now.

@MostlyClean

I'm only slowly getting to classic jazz (besides the Davis/Mingus/Coltrane canonical picks). I'd heard modal Miles and electric Miles, but despite having the album and seeing it namechecked for years, hadn't gotten around to hearing In a Silent Way until only a few months ago. I've had everything by Hassell for decades due to the Eno association, late Talk Talk due to Ned (I think), and The Necks (especially Hanging Gardens, Drive By, Quay, and Raab) are my most exciting musical discoveries of 2014.

So while I hear IASW, or some hypothetical album very much like IASW, as a neccessary antecedent for many musics I love, the experience of listening to it was a bit underwhelming, possibly because it was Teo Macero's first complete reedit of Miles sessions. Good selections, but disjointed. Macero perhaps hadn't quite perfected his editing technique with the thematic progression of his electric Miles constructions.

Yeah, me too but again I think its because its influence has permeated a lot of things, it seems less, um, original now.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny

Never watched it, but yeah.

I see Big Star get a mention there, much what I said upthread.

"Eiffel 65 sounds a lot less fresh today after thousands of rappers ran the Autotune gimmick into the ground."

A ha ha ha ha ha haaaaa..

Oh dear.

the new Run The Jewels. College kid music, total turnoff.

Shudder To Think - 50,000 BC

Where do you go after making an incredible math-glam masterpiece?

You make a record that even members of The Rheostatics or The Caulfields would probably dismiss as boring college rock.

I bought a cd of "A minute to pray a second to die" by the Flesh Eaters on the basis of their unassailable singles ("Sleeping Sickness" & "Pony Dress") and decided on first hearing that I had unfortunately bought a goth record. I returned it to Tower and got the Rhino collection of Link Wray, which of course.

But I bet that Flesh Eaters album is pretty good right? If I weren't so in need of getting real musical value out of my $17 or whatever it was, it would have grown on me like some kind of graveyard mold, yes?

MaresNest are you as entrenched in 90s acts as I am, at least when it comes to pop/rock?

Vic, have a listen again and decide!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9hbLzz2OXk

I've never gotten deeply into this album, even though it should be right up my alley. Feel like it's got all the right attitude, but not enough hooks.

Thanks! I will.

Pony Express Record has waned in my esteem over the years while 50,000 BC has grown (shrugs).

But like, how do they compare in the end? Are you saying 50,000 has surpassed Pony for you?

Evan, if I knew more about your posting habits beyond our shared love of the Lilys I could comment, but I do like a good LOL 90's rabbit hole, Arcwelder being my most recent.

xpost Maybe? It feels like a stronger synthesis of their ethos, somehow.

Mare- That's all I was really going by myself, that and having opinions about Shudder to Think. I've been revisiting a lot of Poole myself.

Wait I want to revise that to better match the Arcwelder sound/vibe. I've been revisiting a lot of Ultra Cindy myself. There.

XP - 50,000 BC ain't all bad, Call Of The Playground is ace and Red House dates back to before PER, but Pony was singular and rarefied and I had high expectations.

I know nothing about Ultra Cindy, will investigate!

They're great! Not much discography at all but their one LP is very nice.

I love the Flesh Eaters but I am pretty goth so ymmv