Lennon Vs McCartney

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lots of Lennon songs are about nothing except shows of craftsmanship

presumably you don't mean this as a knock though?

No! Blame my usual aversion to this kind of line connecting. Paul's song about someone knocking on the door is at least as autobiographical as John's writing about his marriage.

"You never give me your money" and "Carry that weight" were quite unadorned portraits of the frustrations among the fab four in their final days, so Macca was pretty capable of lashing out all the time.

Love the battiness of Geir's assertion in the original post that no early Lennon song has become a standard.

John Lennon to blame for legitimizing celebrity self-pity as acceptable lyric material before the 70s even started. But Mick Jagger and Pete Townshend would have gotten there anyway.

Pete was already there before Lennon
Jagger I don't see it, he's too good a CEO of Rolling Stones Inc

The correct answer is Paul tho yeah?

No, the correct answer is not Paul "That Was My Idea" McCartney.

As of Rubber Soul & Revolver it's still a toss-up. Greatest 2 sided single ever in early 67, again equal credits. Sgt. Pepper, advantage Paul.

To me the tie-breaker is the White Album where John's stuff just ruthlessly runs up the score on the Paulieness. But the thing is, I don't like Abbey Road at all, except for George's and John's standalone songs (not truly crazy about any of it really) (& John's stuff in the long medley bit on s2 is as pointless as Paul's sections, but Paul and George Martin thought that was BRILLIANT so they get the credit or blame).

Add to that my simple fan love of John's vocals, with the note that his background vocals add SO much to various Paul songs and I can't say the same vice versa.

x-post Jagger kind of good at the self-referential celebrity song, and come to think of it they aren't self-pitying either, so I take that remark back. Self-excusing though. He seems on the defensive pretty regularly from the late 60s through the end of the 70s. I guess you had to be there.

how is that last verse even vaguely about Ringo?

he counts and he sits in the back

I actually listened to both of their solo work on a road trip recently. Lennon by a mile. Not even counting "Freedom" and that new video game song disqualifying anything Paul put up against John. I love Paul, but come on. Tortured fugly asian lovers are far more interesting than giggly stoners.

The correct answer is Paul tho yeah?

― resting waterface (m bison), Sunday, December 28, 2014 6:41 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yup!