It's not like "Stay" is such a remarkably original melody, I'll bet the similarity was completely accidental. Still, serves you right for coming up with such a lazy tune.
― SCOTTISH PEOPLE ONLY (I M Losted), Monday, 26 January 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, so many songs sound like bits of other songs that it's kind of mysterious to me which ones get singled out as violators.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
the ones that make a shitload of money
― virtuoso thigh slapper (Jordan), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
yeah I was gonna say
― "Go pet your dog" is the name of my dog (DJP), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
There is that. I have a lawyer friend who does copyright work, a certain amount of her time is taken up with aggrieved lawsuits from people who are positive that somebody heard their song on Soundcloud and ripped off their I-IV-V progression. (Think she defended Marilyn Manson at one point.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
haha
― example (crüt), Monday, 26 January 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link
get this little shit out of here. career needs to be ended right now
http://www.gq.com/entertainment/music/201502/sam-smith-new-rat-pack
But I feel like class and romance have gotten lost. We've become a bit lazy, not just in terms of music. I miss the days when girls would wear full long dresses and just stand onstage and sing. That's what I'm trying to bring back: that timeless element. I want to create music that people will be listening to in fifty years, you know?
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 10:21 (nine years ago) link
lol what a creepy fuck
― Ban Kil Moon (imago), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 10:25 (nine years ago) link
"I long for the days when gays didn't have to have sex with men."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 11:53 (nine years ago) link
lol at the first line of that article making it sound like he's some impoverished piaf story when his privilege is well-documented
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 12:27 (nine years ago) link
samsmith, a humble working-class maker of sams
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 12:56 (nine years ago) link
Even if you overlook the basic misogyny there it's a particularly galling example of unjustified rockism.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 13:09 (nine years ago) link
Maybe it would be if it had anything to do with rock music
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link
wat?
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link
i think i must have heard approx thirty seconds of this guy's music but he's p much the worst isn't he?
― UK Horseshit Cru (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:28 (nine years ago) link
I saw an old TV show with Bobby Darin, he's definitely trying that style/class of singer.
(i.e. I think that's what he meant by class)
I don't mind his stuff like "I need to know now", that's fine.
But, strikes against: "Stay" is such bullshit he's lying. and "Money on my mind" is the title yelled out loud and the "I don't have.." and "I do it for love" is whispered, so as not to put off people who want to join in that like money. "Price Tag" Jessie J is the same for that.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 14:42 (nine years ago) link
― Mark G, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:42 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm, this is part of my beef with "royals" as well
― katherine, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:32 (nine years ago) link
this kid is very dumb but his music is good!
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 January 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link
Tom Petty:
"About the Sam Smith thing. Let me say I have never had any hard feelings toward Sam. All my years of songwriting have shown me these things can happen. Most times you catch it before it gets out the studio door but in this case it got by. Sam’s people were very understanding of our predicament and we easily came to an agreement. The word lawsuit was never even said and was never my intention. And no more was to be said about it. How it got out to the press is beyond Sam or myself. Sam did the right thing and I have thought no more about this. A musical accident no more no less. In these times we live in this is hardly news. I wish Sam all the best for his ongoing career. Peace and love to all."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
Id like to see Sam Smith write something that sounds familiar to a Don Henley solo joint
― Master of Treacle, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link
"to coin a phrase, sam is just a 'rebel without a clue'"
― tylerw, Thursday, 29 January 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
florida man is gracious
― goole, Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:46 (nine years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:44 AM (Yesterday)
his music is dumb too, it's very obvious in a lot of ways, but it sort of works. i ain't mad
― k3vin k., Thursday, 29 January 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
Even if you overlook the basic misogyny there it's a particularly galling example of unjustified rockism.― Matt DC, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:09 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Matt DC, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:09 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not really. I mean, he is all of 20. He is exactly the right age for that sort of rockist attitude.
(What would be justified rockism?)
― Greer, Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link
I only just heard/saw this for the first time, but I feel like white pop singers using gospel choirs in their songs should have ended a long time ago, a terrible cliche.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Monday, 16 February 2015 06:47 (nine years ago) link
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― groovypanda, Monday, 26 October 2015 11:29 (eight years ago) link
booooo.
― Mark G, Monday, 26 October 2015 11:33 (eight years ago) link
(booing "We will no longer play the Spectres song", for clarity yeah?)
― Mark G, Monday, 26 October 2015 11:35 (eight years ago) link
IDGI. What is it about the other song that gives Smith's label/management team/whoever a legal claim against the station (however tenuous)?
― Tim F, Monday, 26 October 2015 11:38 (eight years ago) link
Elvin Smith is Sam Smith's manager (one of three, anyway). I am faintly baffled that they'd be able to make 6 Music stop playing something that seems to fall within the demographic interests of the station. But if these emails are true, it's kind of a fascinating (and scary) look into how massive franchise tie-in bullshit marketing career-engineering works.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 26 October 2015 11:54 (eight years ago) link
why has someone gone through the pretence of obscuring Bob Shennan's name in those emails
― these are my pincers and if you don't like them I have udders (DJ Mencap), Monday, 26 October 2015 12:20 (eight years ago) link
I'm with Tim F. Bob should let Elvin's lawyer come at him with all they've got, as I can't see that it'd'be much.
― carly bae jepsen (monotony), Monday, 26 October 2015 12:24 (eight years ago) link
I privately brainstormed and the only thing I could come up with is if Radio 6 had been (jokingly) presenting the Spectres song as the "official new James Bond song" and - assuming consumer protection laws are roughly the same in the UK as in Australia - Sam Smith's management are saying that's misleading conduct. But it would be the presentation of the song rather than playing it that would potentially be actionable.
And if that was the case and it's not even properly identified in Smith's emails then IDK give up now dude.
(soz for being boring)
― Tim F, Monday, 26 October 2015 12:29 (eight years ago) link
STAND DOWN!
UPDATE: The BBC has claimed that the emails are a hoax and the band has removed the FB post.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/sam-smiths-manager-allegedly-bullies-bbc-into-stopping-playing-unofficial-spectre-theme-in-sickening-a6709091.html
― Mark G, Monday, 26 October 2015 12:31 (eight years ago) link
Clearly Elvin has told Bob to say it's a hoax.
― Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 26 October 2015 14:12 (eight years ago) link
Baffled this fooled anybody for even a second.
― nashwan, Monday, 26 October 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link
Basically, this sort of thing goes on, but nobody's dumb enough to put it onto emails.
― Mark G, Monday, 26 October 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link
There's no way the 6Music guy would have said "Radio 6" in an email. And that's just for starters.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 26 October 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link
The Independent story above has been deleted (suspiciously!), here's a similar article.
― flyingtrain (sbahnhof), Monday, 26 October 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
Not suspiciously, apart from the UPDATE I posted above it all proved to be wrong.
Anyway, the mirror has it the band did a cover version. Which it wasn't, right?
― Mark G, Monday, 26 October 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
I love music— Sam Smith (@samsmithworld) November 6, 2017
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 08:44 (six years ago) link
lol
― imago, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 08:49 (six years ago) link
― niels, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 09:26 (six years ago) link
New board description, 'As recommended by Sam Smith'.
― Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 09:42 (six years ago) link
well that's quite impressive after having to sing Too Good at Goodbyes 1000+ times
― Ludo, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:57 (six years ago) link
― imago, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:59 (six years ago) link
just cringed through my initial responses to this thread. should have just called him a worthless hack and been done with it tbh
― imago, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:00 (six years ago) link
Less interesting than Adele/Emeli Sandé, amirite?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 11:51 (six years ago) link
serious contender for most overrated debut of the decade
also nominating Hozier
― niels, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 12:32 (six years ago) link
did anyone actually rate his debut? or hozier's?
― dyl, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link