rolling CORP low bar just to appear hip to teens thread 2015

we've always posted old head rappers in this thread, its like one of the core values

word

http://themartorialist.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/generic-list-post-unlock-swag-rap.html

joey badass sold 50k first week, i officially don't understand anything

wow! if you would have said 5,000 i wouldn't have batted an eye

sasha and malia pulling some strings imo

new york hungry for something, ANYTHING

yeah but it's not like there haven't been like shitloads of "i'm bringing back classic nyc shit" dudes over the past decades that flopped like crazy

i got a few tracks in and thought eh this is fine but Im just gonna switch to heltah skeltah's nocturnal instead

rae sremmurd have one of the biggest rap/r&b hits of the year, co-signs from tons of famous artists, were all over tv and the internet in the run up to their album release date

sold 49k

different market tho

it sometimes feels like radio hits in rap music have an inverse relationship to selling albums now

this is dovetailing for me w/ some dude's tweets about travis scott headlining a tour with young thug

has the mindset that acceptance into the mainstream is a signal not of artistic quality but the opposite, with the inverse being true for artists like badass (or travis scott) who can't break a radio hit to save their lives but are treated as serious artists

different market tho

― Spottie, Tuesday, January 27, 2015 7:01 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's the silent majority and why do they spend money

yeah i think that's it xp

and to your next point, the ones that spend money on rap albums are probs the ones that grew up spending money on albums.

I don't know if it's necessarily all age thing though

yeah i don't think there are 50,000 40 year olds out there running to best buy to cop the new joey badass album

in fact i would bet it's mostly kids

the thing is, if you appeal to rap fans who listen to mixtapes, then your fanbase is people who are used to getting a lot of rap music without paying for it. if your fanbase feverishly fetishizes a memory of peeling cellophane off of Get Rich Or Die Trying, they might more likely make a purchase.

not that i necessarily think the majority of Bada's fanbase is old enough to have GRODT memories, i'm just saying in general

how about j cole & badass appeal to a richer (& whiter) audience ?

i'm not really convinced their fanbase is so much whiter than rappers who wouldn't get that tossed at them tbh

'richer' is the main argument here.

So richer non whites?

how about j cole & badass appeal to a richer (& whiter) audience ?
--ANU (sisilafami)

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Saw tons of social media love from nba/nfl stars on the j cole album. Still seeing it

whether someone plunks down $10 when one of their fav rappers drops an album is far more about cultural habits than it is about who's "rich"

Lupe gonna do twice as much next week, see you all then for this thrilling argument!

nah Lupe came out the same week as Badrap$$ and sold less!

Lupe album is way better than the badass one. Bout half good I think

cole is an established radio star, he doesn't count

Lupe album has higher highs (opening song is Shipbait) and lower lows. Bada$$ is a solid rappy rap album

haha you mean the 8-minute second track? i liked the album more often than not but my attention definitely wandered during the long tracks.

Lupe def trying some different things which i appreciate but yah way too many dud hooks and such.

Al otm it's about who sees themselves as album-buyers

Badass selling doesn't surprise me. He had hype, a fanbase and an album that delivered what his audience wanted to hear. I'm more worried about Sremm numbers. But then again, they've been around for less than a year and there are obv more hits to come on the album as long as they're actually pushed. No need for them to go "experimental" and get dropped by the end of the year, I hope.

" whether someone plunks down $10 when one of their fav rappers drops an album is far more about cultural habits than it is about who's "rich" "

right, but your cultural habits might be a result of your socioeconomic status.

" So richer non whites? "

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This has been a real tour de force of completely baseless sociology

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKN2Z6_ogDQ

This new demographic of rich white ppl over 40, NBA players, and President Obama's daughters is powerful in hip hop

rae sremmurd were completely unknown this time last year, it's not surprising at all that they sold what they did

Two new Metro Thuggin songs!

Only learned of them bcz the tracks poll. Good stuff.

rae sremmurd were completely unknown this time last year, it's not surprising at all that they sold what they did

― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:23 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah. i think it's more illustrative that Future sold about the same amount the first week after 2 straight years of blanketing the airwaves.

two fairly unheralded tech n9ne and atmosphere new albums last year sold 35K and 25K respectively first week

Tech N9ne is a pretty good example of strengthening your retail numbers by releasing albums the way other rappers release mixtapes. E-40 too, really.

how much of it is a mentality of "they're on the radio, they're clearly doing fine and don't need my money" vs "i should support this independent artist whom i love"?

tech n9ne and atmosphere also sort of cultivate their own loyal audiences in the same way ICP does, atmosphere has a big 30K ppl festival every summer where they bring in big acts and then headline it, gathering of the yuppalos kinda deal

lol

was pulling representative spotify tracks for both artists and was shocked by atmosphere's play numbers: 1.5 mill listens for his 2014 single on an album i didn't see discussed on ilx once.

haha wait so all i have to do is say "Papoose" and you add one of his songs to the 'official' thread Spotify playlist? this is gonna be fun

Lol