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Malicorne came out of Alain Stivell's band or at least some members did. His electric early stuff has a bit of a psych/prog feel in places.

I'm not sure about the Medieval thing with Albion Band but I find their Battle of The Field has an internal glow I find very lysergic. & it always reminds me of Kosmische music.

I've tended to find there is an indigenous folk element to most european early 70s prog that I've heard. to echo the comment by whoever that is above. Seems to be one element of the melange that makes up the sound.
Not sure when rock became formularised as something that ceased to sound like a melange of other elements, you can hear the mix in a lotof the early stuff from 50s-70s jazz, folk, r'n'b, and whatever other elements.

Stevolende, Thursday, 26 February 2015 13:36 (nine years ago) link

there is rock guitar in places.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 February 2015 16:45 (nine years ago) link

oh that looks nice, would buy it if i saw it

third ear band should probably be mentioned here right?

i need to give those spriguns albums a go i guess. i had the mandy morton album 'magic lady' at one stage, but i couldn't really get into it - was kind of bumbling folky pub-rock iirc?

let me be your fan taytay (NickB), Thursday, 26 February 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link

All of William D Drake's albums are essential. Not just for ren folk devotees, but in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apxzwkO8nnM

I should also mention this wonderful Bob Stanley-compiled collection from a few years back. The Mellow Candle track was a particular revelation.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61s2E4OJ%2BAL.jpg

Pheeel, Thursday, 26 February 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link

Was waiting for the Cardiacsy crossover. William D Drake is a hero!

vacuum head tree disease (imago), Thursday, 26 February 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link

i think i'll pass on the william d. drake. but mellow candle are always top of the heap! also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkSFlJubQU8

scott seward, Thursday, 26 February 2015 20:18 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1jNLR9tjXE

scott seward, Thursday, 26 February 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link

also, did nobody mention...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuJSC0o_egI

scott seward, Thursday, 26 February 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link

also a big fave of mine. the dunhill vinyl is cheap as dirt. (i love this band in general. your mileage may vary. as they say.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdJngJgljSk

scott seward, Thursday, 26 February 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link

i think i'll pass on the william d. drake.

Why? I mean, I know musical taste is subjective and all that, but I've had so many experiences of others dismissing this stuff out of hand(or worse, total disinterest) and I just don't get it. What is it that turns people off that I can't hear?

Pheeel, Thursday, 26 February 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link

it's too.....something for me. i didn't want to play the whole thing that's all i know.

scott seward, Thursday, 26 February 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link

Gryphon, motherfuckers

a date with density (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 February 2015 00:41 (nine years ago) link

always wanted to hear midnight mushrumps just based on the cover, and spirogyra, yes!
straying outside the bounds of psych again, love the first john renbourn group lp:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eejS-nVrmks

no lime tangier, Friday, 27 February 2015 02:32 (nine years ago) link

xxxxxp he also did another one that i've got, its great - http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0000/913/MI0000913966.jpg

just sayin, Friday, 27 February 2015 02:37 (nine years ago) link

"Gryphon, motherfuckers"

psych, though, really?

scott seward, Friday, 27 February 2015 02:46 (nine years ago) link

A bit more prog? Good though.
Wish I still had the 2fer of the 1st 2 lps but it disappeared on me.
& the Sanctuary anthology is tracked non chronologically and I'm not sure if it has everything from those lps on anyway.
Do wish the tv appearance from Magpie would turn up in good condition.

Stevolende, Friday, 27 February 2015 07:47 (nine years ago) link

Definitely prog but impossible not to mention

a date with density (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 28 February 2015 15:28 (nine years ago) link

Why? I mean, I know musical taste is subjective and all that, but I've had so many experiences of others dismissing this stuff out of hand(or worse, total disinterest) and I just don't get it. What is it that turns people off that I can't hear?

― Pheeel, Thursday, 26 February 2015 20:54 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's too knowingly cutesy and twee for me, and I am a HUGE Cardiacs fan.

ultros ultros-ghali, Saturday, 28 February 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

The William D Drake linked upthread is just all wrong, it might be that I'm just not interested in modern recreations of this sound but it needs to be wide-eyed and kind of naive and informed by loads of drugs and it being the late 60s, OR it needs to be creepy and sinister and informed by loads of drugs and it being the late 60s/early 70s. The William D Drake feels like a genre exercise.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 March 2015 10:49 (nine years ago) link

It doesn't help that in that video you can see them in a record studio and one of them is literally smirking in places.

Matt DC, Sunday, 1 March 2015 11:36 (nine years ago) link

Ougenweide?

Moon tells the salt (doo dah), Sunday, 1 March 2015 13:42 (nine years ago) link

I have the idea in my head that there is a strain of elizabethan/jacobian referencing post punk, some of it Derek Jarman connected/inspired? The first two albums by The Passage maybe, what other stuff?

soref, Sunday, 1 March 2015 14:18 (nine years ago) link

It doesn't help that in that video you can see them in a record studio and one of them is literally smirking in places.

That's because they're a bunch of close friends having a good time playing music. Personally I like the interplay between the drummer and bassist on these videos, but whatever.

The William D Drake linked upthread is just all wrong, it might be that I'm just not interested in modern recreations of this sound but it needs to be wide-eyed and kind of naive and informed by loads of drugs and it being the late 60s, OR it needs to be creepy and sinister and informed by loads of drugs and it being the late 60s/early 70s. The William D Drake feels like a genre exercise.

See, now this is bullshit. If you'd said "I don't like his voice", I could understand that, but I can't hold with such an absurdly narrow and arbitrary criteria of musical worth. It's just dogmatic nonsense!

I also think it's worth pointing out the original recording of this song is almost as old as that venerated 70s era acid folk(recorded sometime between 83-4), and to my ears has that creepy, naive vibe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhTYgRaA60E

Pheeel, Sunday, 1 March 2015 14:23 (nine years ago) link

the American band Chrysalis were on another Saint Etienne related complilation, they seem pretty foppish and lute-playing, I'd always thought they were british

soref, Sunday, 1 March 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link

the Chrysalis album is a masterpiece.

scott seward, Sunday, 1 March 2015 15:02 (nine years ago) link


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