Teach the Youth is good, Sweet Reggae Music is another good comp of that period
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 00:01 (nine years ago) link
Robin Hood is my top pick as far as albums...you will recognize most of the backing tracks if you've heard the classic Scientist albums.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 00:03 (nine years ago) link
Here are a few good'uns:
The Viceroys - Can't Stop Us NowBlack Uhuru - Plastic SmileThe Gladiators - Mix UpBurning Spear - African TeacherIni Kamoze - World A MusicSteel Pulse - Handsworth Revolution
― mcayrshire (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 00:13 (nine years ago) link
they're not really related (I don't think) but this Hugh Mundell album has a similar sound/vibe to Night Nurse iirc
Roots Radics are the band on both I think? Agree the Mundell's a good one, I haven't heard a bad Hugh Mundell record.
Slightly off-topic, I have started listening to Freddy Mckay lately, having never paid any attention to him post Studio 1. I've been enjoying "Harsh Words" and "Tribal Inna Yard" a good deal.
― Tim, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 09:14 (nine years ago) link
"lonely man" is a wonderful freddie mckay song
― marcos, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link
listening to that viceroys "cant stop us now" tune, dog latin, very good
that thompson comp i mentioned has "come closer" which is also great, very similar minor key vibe
― marcos, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 15:12 (nine years ago) link
yeah i love that viceroy's song so much.
― mcayrshire (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
the scratch-perry produced version of the wailers' "dreamland" is a miracle
― marcos, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 15:01 (nine years ago) link
bunny wailer's voice on that is so beautiful
picked up Kingston Sounds reissue of Tapper Zukie's "The Man from Bozrah" - good stuff but sound quality is shittier than the other Tapper reissue I got from them, which is disappointing
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 April 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
I have no idea if the 1000 posts have included this, but here's to make sure it is (and check if I can embed a YT)https://youtu.be/_Xxf5qSocrU
― Nabozo, Monday, 6 April 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
(and the same post after having read the help)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xxf5qSocrU
― Nabozo, Monday, 6 April 2015 15:48 (nine years ago) link
"What do Ilxors think of the UK-based Prince Fatty/ Mungo's Hi-Fi/Congo Natty/Hollie Cook dub axis?"
congo natty vs mungos hi-fi on the dub version of the 'jungle revolution' album, 'in dub', that is coming out in a bit.features a sample stuffed on-u sound remix (that's clearly my highlight), alongside several names i have never heard of.old school vs nu-era : the end result is truly fantastic :
― mark e, Thursday, 29 October 2015 21:28 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ9yqeQHJBU
― mark e, Thursday, 29 October 2015 21:30 (eight years ago) link
p nice
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 29 October 2015 21:37 (eight years ago) link
got the Veal book over the holidays and read the introduction the other night. Veal's writing is pretty dry, but looks like there's plenty to appreciate in his attention to detail and the meticulousness of the research. Wasn't quite expecting such an academic text, although he's already touched on ideas/issues that I hadn't really seen anyone write about in any meaningful way, particularly the distinction between reggae that was aimed at the Euro-American market (like Jimmy Cliff, Toots and Marley) and how that differed from the dub/roots stuff that was more popular locally. I don't think it's necessary or helpful to draw a qualitative distinction but it's always been clear to me that these were different branches, and how and why they came to differ was not clear to me when I started getting into this music. There was a pretty large gap between the period where I first heard Marley/Cliff/Toots and the much later period where I first heard Lee Perry, King Tubby, Trojan dub box sets etc. and it confused me how different these things were. Obviously there are links but in some ways hearing the Euro-American marketed stuff had led me to be kind of dismissive since it basically just sounded like contemporary R&B/rock instrumentation but with the one-drop rhythm. When people would use the terms dub and reggae interchangeably I would scratch my head cuz I didn't see the connection between the references to crazy production and minimalism and booming bass lines and, say, "Three Little Birds".
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 January 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link
the track i listened to the most in the past week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R1uKKfvQ00
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:05 (eight years ago) link
only Heptones I have is Party Time (which is insane and not at all representative afaict)
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:07 (eight years ago) link
Heptones Studio One stuff is amazing.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:09 (eight years ago) link
Yet the studio one stuff is great
― marcos, Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:10 (eight years ago) link
*yea
― marcos, Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:11 (eight years ago) link
Black is Black and Freedom Line are on youtube, those have been my introduction. A friend of mine, a veritable reggae encyclopedia. directed me to this track.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link
Party time is such a weird album I really need to spend more time with it, it has that very late period black ark sound that is kind of nebulous and difficult to get a handle on sometimes
― marcos, Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link
yeah and on top of that I have the "deluxe" edition which is like 40 tracks or something, it's nuts
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:17 (eight years ago) link
It's a great album and I have the Auralux album as well which is quite good but it's neither the best of that period's Black Ark records or the best Heptones record.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:19 (eight years ago) link
xp oh then it might include Night Food or Cool Rasta too which are both pretty great as well. I don't think there are 40 Black Ark Heptones tracks...
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:20 (eight years ago) link
in some ways hearing the Euro-American marketed stuff had led me to be kind of dismissive since it basically just sounded like contemporary R&B/rock instrumentation but with the one-drop rhythm.
Think you've summarised the reason I hear a lot of people saying reggae sounds 'all the same'
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 15 January 2016 09:22 (eight years ago) link
I thing "Party Time" is my favourite Heptones LP, fwiw, has been for a long time. The discussion about how many tracks the Heptones cut at the Black Ark led me to this: http://sweetrarereggaemusic.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/the-heptones-party-time-deluxe-edition.html which has the 10 on Party Time and 12 more, then more than 30 attendant versions and dubs and so on. Looking forward to making my way through this stuff.
Also excited that VP are getting round to putting out the three Glen Brown / Pantomine comps, particularly Boat To Progress, which came out on Greensleeves in the '80s; been looking for decent condition / affordable copies of those for years (thinking about it, probably about 20 years :( )
― Tim, Friday, 15 January 2016 09:47 (eight years ago) link
I did not know those were coming out that's pretty exciting. I have the two Hot Pot Brown comps so I'll need to check overlap.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 January 2016 13:09 (eight years ago) link
Not a huge crossover IIRC (tho I only have one of those Hot Pot ones). I may not RC of course.
― Tim, Friday, 15 January 2016 14:22 (eight years ago) link
which has the 10 on Party Time and 12 more, then more than 30 attendant versions and dubs and so on
yeah this is what I have, lots of multiple versions of tracks
I'm unfamiliar with Glen Brown
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 January 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link
Then there's a treat in store for you, I hope.
― Tim, Friday, 15 January 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link
outic pick up termination dub you will love it
http://www.allmusic.com/album/termination-dub-mw0000180942http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk/album_detail.php?id=bafcd015
― marcos, Friday, 15 January 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link
veal book is really great btw, it is definitely an academic text and the writing can be pretty dry but it goes into incredible depth
― marcos, Friday, 15 January 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link
xp Yes, and the Brown-produced Sylford Walker LP "Lamb's Bread" (think Blood and Fire did an expanded version of that also). I never owned the trio of Greensleeves LPs I mention above, but my brother owned two of them and I always wanted them, thought they were great.
― Tim, Friday, 15 January 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link
sounds promising! d/ling now
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 January 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link
wow shit how had I not heard of this before
― Οὖτις, Friday, 15 January 2016 17:11 (eight years ago) link
Blood & Fire features the less inspiring Welton Irie deejay version of the same riddims. Termination Dub is amazing.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 January 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link
Blood & Fire version of Lamb's Bread that is.
Yeah. The Greensleeves version is the thing, I think - I have both and it's the LP that makes it out of the pile most often.
― Tim, Friday, 15 January 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLkRK7jQmkc
a recent favorite
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 5 March 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
finished the Veal book (well, the parts of it I was interested in anyway - I don't need to read academic essays on how dub has impacted IDM or whatever). Something that really struck me that I hadn't thought about before was how Jamaica's musical culture totally skipped the whole sheet music/publishing/copyright establishment era of music, and without that there was never any kind of environment for questions of authorship to be raised or resolved. Going straight from an oral culture to a recording culture meant that they approached recording in a completely different way than the Americans or the British did.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 7 March 2016 22:27 (eight years ago) link
book did make me want to hear that Lee Perry-produced George Faith album, is that actually as good as he says it is?
It's a good record, but I think it's probably one of my least favorite Black Ark full length. Of course considering the competition that's still pretty high praise.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 7 March 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link
this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hhYw_OothY
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 June 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link
xp that George Faith is a special album, the Hip-O-Select edition totally worthy. It's strange though to see these kinds of questions anymore because https://open.spotify.com/album/5FQ0VOWxjl3Dsgz1O3jP2I
I'm afraid to read that Veal dub book because it might be very expensive. I've found most OOP stuff is available on shitty MP3s ripped from vinyl, and I get tempted to pay $$ for CDs.
― Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 18 June 2016 12:34 (seven years ago) link
I dont do spotify
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 18 June 2016 13:34 (seven years ago) link
Okay then. Well it's out there.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 20 June 2016 03:50 (seven years ago) link
These are almost all top-notch, thanks:
― mcayrshire (dog latin), Wednesday, March 11, 2015 12:13 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I wasn't so impressed with the Black Uhuru, they can be kind of hit and miss for me. But checking that out did lead me to Puff She Puff which is quality.
Been hanging out with some folks from other countries and it's funny that we all like reggae but our reference points are so disparate. Morgan Heritage? Never really heard of him but it ain't bad. I could also use some dancehall recommendations but I'm not sure if this is the place for that.
― viborg, Thursday, 23 June 2016 00:52 (seven years ago) link
Just heard him for the first time today I think! I listen to the satellite radio reggae station and it plays a lot of stuff, especially more contemporary stuff, that I have never heard or heard of. Admittedly, some of it is relatively hard to identify as reggae, in that a lot of pop music borrows from reggae anyway.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 June 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link