Acts whose debut album is an afterthought in their overall discography

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2. Björk - Björk

― olly, Sunday

madness

You realise he wrote "Björk" and not "Debut"?

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Sunday, 10 May 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link

Doesn't truly fit this category, but for a lot of music writers, Section.80 must qualify, based on how many times I've seen To Pimp a Butterfly referred to as a sophomore record.

intheblanks, Sunday, 10 May 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link

2. Björk - Björk

― olly, Sunday

madness

You realise he wrote "Björk" and not "Debut"?

― ( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic),

I did; my smart phone didn't.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 10 May 2015 22:36 (nine years ago) link

Eurythmics - In the Garden

nerve_pylon, Sunday, 10 May 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link

"The debut was an enjoyable slice of Motorhead derived energy but The Return and the four albums after that are pretty much the Bathory canon."

Well they are all better, sure, but I'd say the debut is as influential as any of them.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Sunday, 10 May 2015 22:45 (nine years ago) link

I have heard lots of raving about that Eurythmics debut.

Mark G, Sunday, 10 May 2015 22:55 (nine years ago) link

yes, it's great—yet i'll bet largely ignored by most of their fans? it's the only one i like.

nerve_pylon, Sunday, 10 May 2015 23:04 (nine years ago) link

Cat Power - Dear Sir

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 10 May 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link

Godspeed You! Black Emperor cassette tape
Father John Misty's first 7 albums as J. Tillman

(disagree w Kraftwerk, 2Pac and Bob Dylan)

it me, Monday, 11 May 2015 00:26 (nine years ago) link

Randy Newman - Randy Newman

da croupier, Monday, 11 May 2015 00:38 (nine years ago) link

Failure - Comfort

soyrev, Monday, 11 May 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link

Carole King - Writer

da croupier, Monday, 11 May 2015 00:40 (nine years ago) link

disagree w Kraftwerk

those albums and the third have been out of print for decades and are excluded from the numbering with which Kraftwerk advertise their public appearances of the last several years

I mean, I love early Kraftwerk, but

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Monday, 11 May 2015 00:45 (nine years ago) link

The Kraftwerk debut is sounding more intense and avant than I remembered, and even more to original point: that it shouldn't be neglected (just because its parents disowned it).

dow, Monday, 11 May 2015 00:48 (nine years ago) link

Ditto very early live workouts/freakouts, which are or were on YouTube.

dow, Monday, 11 May 2015 00:50 (nine years ago) link

OP says is, not should

( who ALSO my boss and his sister!) (sic), Monday, 11 May 2015 01:13 (nine years ago) link

gbv - Devil Between My Toes

Van Horn Street, Monday, 11 May 2015 01:23 (nine years ago) link

Pablo Honey woulda counted if not for "Creep" (though really that song stands on its own, outside of that album).

Judas Priest - "Rocka Rolla" (they actually played a song live from it in 2009 but mostly that album's been ignored - and isn't well regarded outside of trolly ILX polls)

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 11 May 2015 02:03 (nine years ago) link

katy perry - "katy hudson"

fact checking cuz, Monday, 11 May 2015 02:23 (nine years ago) link

Green Day - 1039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours & Kerplunk

LimbsKing, Monday, 11 May 2015 04:08 (nine years ago) link

Wasn't the first UFO album somewhat, um, different

Mark G, Monday, 11 May 2015 07:08 (nine years ago) link

I was going to say that Eurythmics one which is very different to the rest of their catalogue. Think it has its own fans possibly. I was very glad to get the remaster a few years ago cos previous cds were really tinny sounding. Not sure if the band was a permanent line up elsewhere, here it's members of Blondie & Can among others.

I think both Pink Floyd's PATGOD and New Order's Movement are seen as at least anomolous exploring directions not really explored elsewhere. PATGOD is probably pretty popular but stands alone from the rest of Floyd doesnt it. Not sure how many people into their later, established stuff would be aware of it. Probably not automatic thought that this is the same band as did The Wall or whatever for a large number of people.

I've also heard that R.e.o. Speedwagon's 1st 2lps are decent almost stoner hard rock.
Oh & Journey started out good as a non-latinate Santana offshoot playing good almost psychy jazz-rock.

Stevolende, Monday, 11 May 2015 07:49 (nine years ago) link

Green Day - 1039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours & Kerplunk

― LimbsKing, Monday, May 11, 2015 4:08 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this doesn't fulfil a single one of the original criteria, good work

pull blart, maul cops (DJ Mencap), Monday, 11 May 2015 07:52 (nine years ago) link

idk his narrative that well at all but isn't Alice Cooper's first album really totally different/not usually talked about?

soyrev, Monday, 11 May 2015 08:09 (nine years ago) link

Al Stewart – Bedsitter Images

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Monday, 11 May 2015 08:13 (nine years ago) link

Chrome - The Visitation

thono, Monday, 11 May 2015 09:46 (nine years ago) link

That album that Refused did before The Shape Of Punk To Come

paolo, Monday, 11 May 2015 10:08 (nine years ago) link

rihanna - music of the sun

lex pretend, Monday, 11 May 2015 10:08 (nine years ago) link

Noooooo that's still one of my favourites.

Tim F, Monday, 11 May 2015 10:17 (nine years ago) link

Supposedly the Rush debut but fans are generally so unenthusiastic about it, I cant be bothered checking if theyre right.

There are two radio staples on this + they played "Working Man" live when I saw them in 2002.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 11 May 2015 11:55 (nine years ago) link

(I can't remember another song from it aside from "In the Mood" and "Working Man", though.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 11 May 2015 12:01 (nine years ago) link

Scorpions - Lonesome Crow

DavidLeeRoth, Monday, 11 May 2015 12:09 (nine years ago) link

Faith No More - we care a lot?

StanM, Monday, 11 May 2015 12:41 (nine years ago) link

Supposedly the Rush debut but fans are generally so unenthusiastic about it, I cant be bothered checking if theyre right.

- Robert Adam Gilmour

There are two radio staples on this + they played "Working Man" live when I saw them in 2002.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 11 May 2015 12:55

(I can't remember another song from it aside from "In the Mood" and "Working Man", though.)

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 11 May 2015 13:01

Come to think of it I don't much like Fly By Night apart from the lovely title track.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 11 May 2015 12:43 (nine years ago) link

Slipknot - Mate Feed Kill Repeat
Beth Orton - Superpinkymandy

Does that first Feist album fit the bill?

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 11 May 2015 13:31 (nine years ago) link

Stoney & Meatloaf

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 11 May 2015 13:34 (nine years ago) link

The Offspring - The Offspring

Siegbran, Monday, 11 May 2015 13:39 (nine years ago) link

would Peter Gabriel's first count? He never recorded another song with "moribund" in it again.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 May 2015 14:09 (nine years ago) link

rihanna - music of the sun

― lex pretend, Monday, May 11, 2015 10:08 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Noooooo that's still one of my favourites.

― Tim F, Monday, May 11, 2015 10:17 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's one of my favourite rihanna albums but popular and critical consensus - wrongly! - holds that she became important with GGGB

lex pretend, Monday, 11 May 2015 14:18 (nine years ago) link

John Martyn – London Conversation

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Monday, 11 May 2015 14:20 (nine years ago) link

The Flaming Lips – Hear It Is

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Monday, 11 May 2015 14:27 (nine years ago) link

Peter Gabriel debut had Solsbury Hill

kornrulez6969, Monday, 11 May 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link

Huey Lewis and the News

kornrulez6969, Monday, 11 May 2015 14:31 (nine years ago) link

ZZ Top--ZZ Top,s First Album

kornrulez6969, Monday, 11 May 2015 14:32 (nine years ago) link

Replacements

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Monday, 11 May 2015 15:03 (nine years ago) link

The Who "My Generation"

I know, but ignore the single(s) and mm, how many tracks have anything to do with the band they became?

Mark G, Monday, 11 May 2015 15:05 (nine years ago) link

Don't see it listed but first thought of:
Paul Simon- Paul Simon Songbook (1965)

jetfan, Monday, 11 May 2015 15:11 (nine years ago) link

Sufjan Stevens - A Sun Came maybe? Don't know if he ever played any of those songs live and besides "it's kinda decent" I've never heard anyone speak well of it.

Glass Hammer - Journey of the Dunadan, an almost infamously awful concept album about Lord of the Rings that embodies everything lolworthy about prog in 70+ minutes. And it doesn't do it in a way that's actually somewhat awesome, the way a lot of their later albums would...lots "Synth Fanfare 2"-type melodies and hilariously terrible vocals.

Fluke - Techno Rose of Blighty - dunno if the fans dislike this one, but it's kind of a bad take on Madchester, it's nothing like what they'd get famous for, and most of their better material didn't even make the album (which I believe was only like 6 tracks/30 minutes on its first release?)

Robert Wyatt - End of an Ear, do people like this one at all?

Also - how about those first two Primal Scream albums?

Otherwise it's really easy to come up with albums that meet some of those criteria; prog rock in general has a ton of "false start" albums, but I think they're all enjoyable to some degree (especially the VdGG and Yes ones)

frogbs, Monday, 11 May 2015 15:14 (nine years ago) link

End of an Ear is a p solid Brit free improv rec

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Monday, 11 May 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link


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