'music complete' is a great title and totally in line with new order's aesthetic fuiud
― 龜, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 12:50 (eight years ago) link
Remember everything from the Republic era said 'A New Order Product', which at the time I thought was terrible but I get the concept of it now.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 12:54 (eight years ago) link
ppl complaining about the cover art but then like
http://i.imgur.com/snWAsiV.jpg
(this is extremely good cover art btw)
― 龜, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:01 (eight years ago) link
my fave
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:30 (eight years ago) link
Good thread: let's discuss New Order's 'Republic'
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:33 (eight years ago) link
Can someone explain to me why the title track of Waiting For the Sirens' Call nearly kills me? If it catches me unawares I can even tear up at times. It doesn't have any particular association but something about it really gets to me. Maybe it feels like the end of New Order.
― MatthewK,
This is the only song since Regret that would make my New Order top ten. It's a perfect song. The ending kills me every single time.
How many times must I lose my way, heyHow many words do I have to say, heyWhat can I do just to make you seeThat you're so good for a man likeA man like me
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link
Turn is beautiful as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmmDElWGbYg
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:07 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, Turn is my second favourite on that album. It was supposed to come out after the title track but got cancelled for some reason. It's even on their Singles collection from 2005. It should have been released instead of Jetstream which might just be their worst single.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:10 (eight years ago) link
All time classic status: Achieved
Primitive Notion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWrWRm2DFtY
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:13 (eight years ago) link
Crystal, Someone Like You, Run Wild and Vicious Streak are my favourites on Get Ready.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:16 (eight years ago) link
Prefer the Steve Osborne mix of Run Wild but agree with the rest of those.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link
I'm gonna live till I dieI'm gonna live to get high
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link
Probably inspired by hanging out with Bobby Gillespie too much.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link
Yay, it's New Order's El Pintor!!!!
― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:09 (eight years ago) link
Hopefully it's a lot better than that.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link
In my head, Hooky & Carlos are secretly working on a set of bass duets called Screw You Guys I'm Going Home.
(Thank you, thread for making me dig out Republic and Get Ready. I have no time for people who don't acknowledge that the bassline on Regret is like the platonic ideal of a New Order bassline.)
― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link
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Red Owner?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
Hooky and Carlos are secretly working on giving groupies venereal diseases.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link
"Turn" is definitely MOR New Order but that's probably where I'm at these days (though all the Bad Lieutenant songs kinda sounded like Turn but never as good)
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link
Yes, yes, Our Herpes To Admire, Seven and the Raged Tiger, Some Distant Memory, now we never have to have this conversation again, Alfred.
Republic is perfection right until Times Change. Has there ever been a decent song that Barney raps on? I'm thinking there's probably an Electronic song that proves me wrong
― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link
The songs are good, Sumner's raps are...tolerable. I think it almost works on "Feel Every Beat."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link
'Idiot Country'
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link
"Idiot Country" is also weird in that for the chorus Sumner doubletracks himself singing at the top of his register.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:19 (eight years ago) link
< when they try to sound more "current" (e.g. Jetstream, Guilt Is a Useless Emotion), they come across as old folks trying desperately to fit in. >
Doves popped into my head when reading this.
― djh, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link
Gillian should be brought to the front of the group, imo. Take on some vocals, do some duets w/ Barney. Selfish is a great track.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link
My mind boggles at the image of Gillian and Bernard center stage looking at each other, nodding, and exchanging guitar riffs.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
Bernard just glares at Gillian. The last time I saw New Order, Gillian just stared down at a notebook perched on her synth. Pretty sure the notations were 'right index finger on the red sticker' and 'left index finger on the blue sticker'. I kid, I love Gillian. So glad she's back.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
Am I the only person on ILX who actually likes "Jetstream" and "Guilt Is A Useless Emotion"? where is Spencer Chow
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link
oh I was at that Reading gig
me too!
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
I like "Guilt Is A Useless Emotion." The "I want your love" bit is like New Order attempting Haddaway.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
I made a mix of Jetstream without Ana Matronic that I much prefer to the official version. Love Guilt though. Even the Mac Quayle version is good.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
where is Spencer Chow
I'm here and I like those songs!
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
thinking of starting a tumblr for pictures of Stephen Morris grinning
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Arrivals+amfAR+Inspiration+Gala+Part+2+oO6qvMhUaHjl.jpg
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/450407164-bernard-sumner-phil-cunningham-tom-chapman-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QfebhzI6yVvMhnCUyLXlaJ3bGhMAxvfCF7cEzDEYpDwL
― soref, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link
http://www.worldinmotion.net/newsroom/pictures/2007/DSC00116.jpg
"some distant memory is the best song ever"
undoubtedly; nothing NO has done after technique really touches the first Electronic record. But I do like Turn a lot too on WFSC.
― akm, Thursday, 25 June 2015 01:26 (eight years ago) link
there will be zero good songs on this record but olds will be pumped anyway, which is fine, my iTunes shows that I've listened to the new UFO album 5 times already
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Thursday, 25 June 2015 01:29 (eight years ago) link
Always thought Steve Morris looked liked Stephen Fry's younger, smaller brother.
I've liked at least a couple of songs off each post-"Technique" album. The question is whether someone will try to ape Hook's sound on the new album, which would be just as weird as a New Order album without his bass.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 June 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link
I should say I finally listened to "Lost Sirens" the other day, having forgotten it existed, and promptly forgot it existed again.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 June 2015 01:37 (eight years ago) link
i'm looking a bit forward to this. hey maybe we can re-do the New Order poll after it's release.
j/k
― Bee OK, Thursday, 25 June 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link
two really important corrections this thread urgently needs:
stephen morris was so beautiful as a young man
& music complete relates to musique concrete more than musique non-stop, right
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 25 June 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link
many xps Whoa, I've never seen that silver & gold cover variation for True Colours. WANT.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 25 June 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link
Here to Stay was great, particularly in the extended version, Plastic is good and the teaser from the video also sounded interesting. They should make a whole album with the Chems (or Weatherall).
This excellent live recording of Singularity shows how Tom's bass is going to fit in. Basically sits in the same place as Hooky but without the chorus pedal on. Starts like Joy Division then kicks in with pretty decent lyrics and a reappearance of Gillian's synth lines over top. Good omen for the album.
http://youtu.be/bFb1JLmCdaY
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 25 June 2015 05:24 (eight years ago) link
didn't think of musique concrete, d'oh
but I never for a moment meant to suggest that Stephen Morris was anything other than beautiful as a young (or indeed middle aged) man!
Morris grinning as a beautiful young man:
https://40.media.tumblr.com/99c95429271bbfbe867c4395d07e534c/tumblr_np4to4AstW1t0u876o1_540.jpg
― soref, Thursday, 25 June 2015 10:28 (eight years ago) link
stephen morris had the best look in the perfect kiss video
― 龜, Thursday, 25 June 2015 11:43 (eight years ago) link
mimicking boredom?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 June 2015 11:56 (eight years ago) link
His "Do we have to do it again?" face.
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 June 2015 12:19 (eight years ago) link
Gotta say that for all the love I have for New Order's blunt charm, that Sumner autobiography is like being trapped at the bar with that hot guy/girl who turns out to be mind-crushingly literal and dull.I remain, like others, quietly optimistic that I will like bits/most/all of Music Complete. Still remember the shock when Get Ready turned out to be a flawless resumption (but then I hated Republic).
― MatthewK, Thursday, 25 June 2015 12:57 (eight years ago) link
seems like a good ILX pre-cover candidate tbh― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:26 PM (2 days ago)
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:26 PM (2 days ago)
You know...you're on.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 June 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link
And here we go
ILX Pre-Covers New Order's _Music Complete_
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 June 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link
I'd call "Get Ready" a flawless resumption only in the most literal sense. That is, it is not a flawless album but it was a flawless return to active status. Wonder if Barney returns Billy's phone calls these days ..
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 June 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link