Yes, yes, Our Herpes To Admire, Seven and the Raged Tiger, Some Distant Memory, now we never have to have this conversation again, Alfred.
Republic is perfection right until Times Change. Has there ever been a decent song that Barney raps on? I'm thinking there's probably an Electronic song that proves me wrong
― The Hauntology of Celebrity (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link
The songs are good, Sumner's raps are...tolerable. I think it almost works on "Feel Every Beat."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link
'Idiot Country'
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link
"Idiot Country" is also weird in that for the chorus Sumner doubletracks himself singing at the top of his register.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 16:19 (eight years ago) link
< when they try to sound more "current" (e.g. Jetstream, Guilt Is a Useless Emotion), they come across as old folks trying desperately to fit in. >
Doves popped into my head when reading this.
― djh, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link
Gillian should be brought to the front of the group, imo. Take on some vocals, do some duets w/ Barney. Selfish is a great track.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link
My mind boggles at the image of Gillian and Bernard center stage looking at each other, nodding, and exchanging guitar riffs.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 17:56 (eight years ago) link
Bernard just glares at Gillian. The last time I saw New Order, Gillian just stared down at a notebook perched on her synth. Pretty sure the notations were 'right index finger on the red sticker' and 'left index finger on the blue sticker'. I kid, I love Gillian. So glad she's back.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
Am I the only person on ILX who actually likes "Jetstream" and "Guilt Is A Useless Emotion"? where is Spencer Chow
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link
oh I was at that Reading gig
me too!
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
I like "Guilt Is A Useless Emotion." The "I want your love" bit is like New Order attempting Haddaway.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
I made a mix of Jetstream without Ana Matronic that I much prefer to the official version. Love Guilt though. Even the Mac Quayle version is good.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link
where is Spencer Chow
I'm here and I like those songs!
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 21:17 (eight years ago) link
thinking of starting a tumblr for pictures of Stephen Morris grinning
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Arrivals+amfAR+Inspiration+Gala+Part+2+oO6qvMhUaHjl.jpg
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/450407164-bernard-sumner-phil-cunningham-tom-chapman-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QfebhzI6yVvMhnCUyLXlaJ3bGhMAxvfCF7cEzDEYpDwL
― soref, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 22:11 (eight years ago) link
http://www.worldinmotion.net/newsroom/pictures/2007/DSC00116.jpg
"some distant memory is the best song ever"
undoubtedly; nothing NO has done after technique really touches the first Electronic record. But I do like Turn a lot too on WFSC.
― akm, Thursday, 25 June 2015 01:26 (eight years ago) link
there will be zero good songs on this record but olds will be pumped anyway, which is fine, my iTunes shows that I've listened to the new UFO album 5 times already
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Thursday, 25 June 2015 01:29 (eight years ago) link
Always thought Steve Morris looked liked Stephen Fry's younger, smaller brother.
I've liked at least a couple of songs off each post-"Technique" album. The question is whether someone will try to ape Hook's sound on the new album, which would be just as weird as a New Order album without his bass.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 June 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link
I should say I finally listened to "Lost Sirens" the other day, having forgotten it existed, and promptly forgot it existed again.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 June 2015 01:37 (eight years ago) link
i'm looking a bit forward to this. hey maybe we can re-do the New Order poll after it's release.
j/k
― Bee OK, Thursday, 25 June 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link
two really important corrections this thread urgently needs:
stephen morris was so beautiful as a young man
& music complete relates to musique concrete more than musique non-stop, right
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Thursday, 25 June 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link
many xps Whoa, I've never seen that silver & gold cover variation for True Colours. WANT.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 25 June 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link
Here to Stay was great, particularly in the extended version, Plastic is good and the teaser from the video also sounded interesting. They should make a whole album with the Chems (or Weatherall).
This excellent live recording of Singularity shows how Tom's bass is going to fit in. Basically sits in the same place as Hooky but without the chorus pedal on. Starts like Joy Division then kicks in with pretty decent lyrics and a reappearance of Gillian's synth lines over top. Good omen for the album.
http://youtu.be/bFb1JLmCdaY
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 25 June 2015 05:24 (eight years ago) link
didn't think of musique concrete, d'oh
but I never for a moment meant to suggest that Stephen Morris was anything other than beautiful as a young (or indeed middle aged) man!
Morris grinning as a beautiful young man:
https://40.media.tumblr.com/99c95429271bbfbe867c4395d07e534c/tumblr_np4to4AstW1t0u876o1_540.jpg
― soref, Thursday, 25 June 2015 10:28 (eight years ago) link
stephen morris had the best look in the perfect kiss video
― 龜, Thursday, 25 June 2015 11:43 (eight years ago) link
mimicking boredom?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 June 2015 11:56 (eight years ago) link
His "Do we have to do it again?" face.
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 June 2015 12:19 (eight years ago) link
Gotta say that for all the love I have for New Order's blunt charm, that Sumner autobiography is like being trapped at the bar with that hot guy/girl who turns out to be mind-crushingly literal and dull.I remain, like others, quietly optimistic that I will like bits/most/all of Music Complete. Still remember the shock when Get Ready turned out to be a flawless resumption (but then I hated Republic).
― MatthewK, Thursday, 25 June 2015 12:57 (eight years ago) link
seems like a good ILX pre-cover candidate tbh― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:26 PM (2 days ago)
― fuck me, archipelago (Simon H.), Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:26 PM (2 days ago)
You know...you're on.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 June 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link
And here we go
ILX Pre-Covers New Order's _Music Complete_
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 June 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link
I'd call "Get Ready" a flawless resumption only in the most literal sense. That is, it is not a flawless album but it was a flawless return to active status. Wonder if Barney returns Billy's phone calls these days ..
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 June 2015 15:18 (eight years ago) link
Seems Billy and Hooky may be on better terms since Little Hook is joining Bald Billy on tour.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 25 June 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link
Is The Game just does a cover of the Echo & the Bunnymen song? Could already hear it done with Barney vox in my head
― feargal czukay (NickB), Thursday, 25 June 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link
It's a cover of the Queen album, in its entirety.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Thursday, 25 June 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link
did Billy and New Order leave on bad terms? i found the only interview they all did together (in Q) the other day and it was hilarious! i'd scan it in if i .. had a scanner. it seemed so bizarre at the time when he did the tour with them, but in the photos he was as happy as i've ever seen him. not saying much like..
― piscesx, Thursday, 25 June 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link
happy as a man holding cats
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 25 June 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link
The Cure's "Happy the (Cat) Man"
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 June 2015 18:21 (eight years ago) link
"The Lovecats" - Smashing Pumpkins
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 25 June 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link
I'd call "Get Ready" a flawless resumption only in the most literal sense. That is, it is not a flawless album but it was a flawless return to active status.― Josh in Chicago, Friday, June 26, 2015 1:18 AM (8 hours ago)
― MatthewK, Friday, 26 June 2015 00:48 (eight years ago) link
I remain, like others, quietly optimistic that I will like bits/most/all of Music Complete. Still remember the shock when Get Ready turned out to be a flawless resumption (but then I hated Republic).― MatthewK, Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― MatthewK, Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Realistically, I'm expecting one, maybe two very good songs. I'm certainly not expecting any future classics, and I definitely expect there to be filler. A lot of New Order's tension "back in the day" came from Sumner's more electronic direction mixed with Hook preferring the band approach. It's going to be interesting to see what a new New Order record with that tension removed is going to sound like, although I have a sneaking suspicion the end result might lack a bit of edge.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 26 June 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link
Well probably Republic is a reasonable approximation of NO with Hooky's input dialled out. But Barney has been more guitar-happy in recent years, viz Bad Lieutenant I guess.
― MatthewK, Friday, 26 June 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, and I guess Republic can be accused of having a distinct lack of edge to it, bar 'Regret' of course.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Friday, 26 June 2015 01:10 (eight years ago) link
That is exactly how I would describe Technique, bar 'Fine Time'.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 26 June 2015 01:18 (eight years ago) link
Oh shit, now I am listening to Republic and liking it a whole lot. "Ruined in a Day" FTW.
― MatthewK, Friday, 26 June 2015 07:32 (eight years ago) link
Oh, then "Spooky". Never mind, I still hate it apart from Regret and RiaD.
― MatthewK, Friday, 26 June 2015 07:38 (eight years ago) link
you need to stick around for Everyday Everywhere and Special, at the very least
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 26 June 2015 08:27 (eight years ago) link
I just hear Republic as a diary of the dissolution of Factory Records and find it fascinating. Bernard's best album lyrically. Hoping the break-up with Hooky will lend to great lyrics this time. I was also thinking about the fact that Steve and Gillian may be able to contribute some songs to this album now that Hook is gone and remembering that the only number 1 New Order had, was written by The Other Two. 1963 was also apparently a Steve/Gillian song. Definitely looking forward to Music Complete. Hopefully we won't be able to hear Phil Cunningham anywhere on the album. He useless.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 26 June 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link
Hooky was always full of praise for 1963.
Whereas Bernard would slag off "World (Price of Love)", another Steve/Gillian one.
Basically, they got their wack,
― Mark G, Friday, 26 June 2015 17:24 (eight years ago) link
Ugh, special guests on record. Brandon Flowers, La Roux, Iggy.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
Shoulda headfaked everyone and said it was Iggy Azalea.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link