I just hear Republic as a diary of the dissolution of Factory Records and find it fascinating. Bernard's best album lyrically. Hoping the break-up with Hooky will lend to great lyrics this time. I was also thinking about the fact that Steve and Gillian may be able to contribute some songs to this album now that Hook is gone and remembering that the only number 1 New Order had, was written by The Other Two. 1963 was also apparently a Steve/Gillian song. Definitely looking forward to Music Complete. Hopefully we won't be able to hear Phil Cunningham anywhere on the album. He useless.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 26 June 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link
Hooky was always full of praise for 1963.
Whereas Bernard would slag off "World (Price of Love)", another Steve/Gillian one.
Basically, they got their wack,
― Mark G, Friday, 26 June 2015 17:24 (eight years ago) link
Ugh, special guests on record. Brandon Flowers, La Roux, Iggy.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
Shoulda headfaked everyone and said it was Iggy Azalea.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link
I literally had 90 seconds of NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO echoing through my head until my Google search completed.
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link
Flowers finally bored Tennant and Lowe.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link
I didn't think it would be possible, but my expectations for this record managed to become even lower.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 21:19 (eight years ago) link
Brandon Flowers named The Killers after the band in New Order’s video for ‘Crystal,’ and has become a good friend of the band. Here on Music Complete he lends his unmistakable vocals on ‘Superheated,’ giving the album a fittingly epic closer. Following an enthralling guest appearance performing ‘Love Will Tear Us Apart’ at the Tibet House benefit in New York last year, Iggy Pop now applies his unique tones to ‘Stray Dog,’ creating a brooding track that blends perfectly with the eclectic array of sounds on Music Complete. “Elly Jackson (La Roux) is featured on 'Tutti Frutti,’ ‘People On The High Line,’ and provides backing vocals on ‘Plastic.’ La Roux first supported New Order on their 2014 tour, starting a mutual appreciation of each other’s work.”
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link
ginormous frowny face
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 22:32 (eight years ago) link
Fittingly epic
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I've gone from excited to 'who gives a fuck' in the time it takes to read a tweet. Nothing good ever comes from collaborations. This is a very bad sign.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 23:22 (eight years ago) link
Oh no. Elly's voice is probably my least favourite vocalist in music after Danny Embrace and she's on three of the songs! With Iggy Pop I'm just expecting something similar to Rock The Shock.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link
It's a shame they've resorted to this sideshow bullshit. La Roux and the Killers are so far beneath the level of people who should be anywhere near New Order in a recording studio. Suppose they already ruined their legacy with Billy Corgan and Ana Matronic though, so this really shouldn't surprise me. I don't know why they wouldn't just let Gillian sing on those songs. Hopefully Iggy Pop just plays guitar or something. So disappointed in the way this is shaping up now. The snippets on the videos sound good but none of them feature vocals. Unfortunately i've already pre-ordered the deluxe box set.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 23:34 (eight years ago) link
LaRoux is good at least. but I don't know why they need any special guests. wtf it's not a Santana record.
― akm, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link
To be fair, I have only heard 1 La Roux song and it was a Skream remix (I think) but it was terrible.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 23:40 (eight years ago) link
lol y'all
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link
the new new order album, featuring: some people who will maybe occasionally accompany or sing instead of barney
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 23:49 (eight years ago) link
more like barfy
― e-bouquet (mattresslessness), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 23:55 (eight years ago) link
brandon flowers rules and i am excited to hear him on this record
― 龜, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 00:39 (eight years ago) link
same
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 00:47 (eight years ago) link
i think it's weird to ha e this opinion about a rock band that did a rap song about soccer in their prime
― 龜, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 01:13 (eight years ago) link
All these New Order collaborations scan like they just looked to see who was hanging around backstage at some festival and invited them to record. We're lucky it's not, like, Jared Leto.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 02:05 (eight years ago) link
Iggy Pop, I can understand. They've been fans of his since before Joy Division started. The others just show a massive lack of quality control. Hopefully it's relegated to buried backing vocals and not a duet like Turn My Way.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 04:33 (eight years ago) link
Also, RE: World In Motion. That was a novelty record that was intentionally ridiculous.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link
Brandon Flowers with New Order could be interesting, but if there's anything a New Order album doesn't need, it's a "fittingly epic closer".
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 11:49 (eight years ago) link
Unfortunately i've already pre-ordered the deluxe box set.
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 12:28 (eight years ago) link
but if there's anything a New Order album doesn't need, it's a "fittingly epic closer".
as if press releases aren't a randomized mosaic of 10 total words
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 13:11 (eight years ago) link
I must admit, closing with an epic would be more fitting than starting with one.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link
if there's anything a New Order album doesn't need, it's a "fittingly epic closer".
OTOH "Dream Attack" rules
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link
even more epic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dElcbE2HEdQ
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link
grrrrr
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link
it's funny, joy division's career also ended with the fittingly epic closer
― feargal czukay (NickB), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link
Deborah Curtis may not agree.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:03 (eight years ago) link
Maybe you mean the album "Closer"? Epic.
Even "Republic" has an epic closer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRw-_jOhFA
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link
I think Bernard once said on stage 'little dicks, big endings' as a way to sum up New Order's sound.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link
not sure Gillian agreed with that one
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 16:27 (eight years ago) link
Our definitions of "epic closer" don't seem to agree, but if I was going to pick one from NO it would be "Leave Me Alone".
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 9 July 2015 11:06 (eight years ago) link
Dream Attack is the most perfect closer - don't hear it as epic tho
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 July 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link
It ends a soundtrack, not an album, but don't act like "Here To Stay" didn't happen.
― the most painstaking, humorless people in the world (lukas), Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPAfi6fbvTk
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 10:38 (eight years ago) link
i like it seems like the kind of song i can grow into
― 龜, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 11:22 (eight years ago) link
That's really nice!
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 12:10 (eight years ago) link
Oh I like this a LOT
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link
Apparently I'm now allowed to say the album is fantastic - their best since Technique even if you really hate Brandon Flowers.
― A swarm of antipathy (Re-Make/Re-Model), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link
Morris sounds crisp!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link
Pleasant, but honestly I'm not getting the first-single-and-we're-BACK! punch of either "Crystal" or "Krafty." Going with the 'kind of song I can grow into' feeling.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 14:12 (eight years ago) link
Yep. Sumner sounds buried.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 14:22 (eight years ago) link
it sounds very by-the-numbers, not a bad thing, but I dunno, this is like Weird Al trying to write a New Order song
― frogbs, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link
I would prefer a punchier mix.
― the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link
Something sounds off about the vocals. Bernard sounds like he either has a cold or he's a bit upset.
The song itself needs a stronger chorus. It's pleasant enough but it would probably be about the fifth best song on Waiting For The Siren's Call.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 15:27 (eight years ago) link