I still remember hearing Sandman for the first time. Humble brag, but I've been a Metallica fan since the Summer of '86. We'd heard all the rumors and read RIP magazine that this new album was going to be different. Scared to death that they were going to turn into Winger.
Listened to the tape in the parking lot of the shopping center where I bought it. Buddy and I just looked at each other. "Not bad. At least it's not Winger."
Still get a kick out of it now that I only hear it occasionally. Even Tom Leykis couldn't ruin this song for me.
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link
Also enjoy this poll kicking off with it because it's a helluva album intro (James wanted "Holier Than Thou" to start the record.)
And as you can see, it was awarded exactly 100 points. All the other songs below it were in the double-digits.
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
I remember hearing it for the first time at summer camp. We were all gathered around a boombox playing 98 Rock. To me, it was too corny to be Metallica. "What was this, the new Megadeth song or something?" And then weirdly, the new Megadeth song (from Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey) had a "Now I lay me down to sleep..." line in it.
― how's life, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
surprised nobody picked "Fade To Black" as a jump the shark moment tbh
probably because this redeemed it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsZ2r7jLFoQ
― lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 6 July 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/qQhjIsw.jpg24. "Eye of the Beholder" • …And Justice For All, 1988108 points | 6 votes
Studio Version…And Justice For Jason VersionDarker & Faster Version Ok, what the hell is going on with these.
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
I wish I could remember the grammatical term for swapping around the subject, metal style, to give you master of puppets vs. puppet master. Makes everything more metal. There's a baby store by here called Cradles of Distinction.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:08 (eight years ago) link
One of the Justice tracks I didn't end up voting for. I love it in context of the hour-long riff fest, but as a stand-alone song it plods a little for me.
― how's life, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link
I remember buying the cassingle of it before ...Justice came out and liking the B-side (Budgie's "Breadfan") a lot more.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 6 July 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link
Weird choice for a single.
― how's life, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link
So many cool intros on that record.
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
Lots of fade-in's like that one.
Yeah, I agree; anything on Side Three ("The Shortest Straw," "Harvester of Sorrow," "The Frayed Ends of Sanity") would have been a better pick, particularly "Straw."
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 6 July 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/RXjMaYI.jpg23. "Junior Dad" with Lou Reed • Lulu, 2011109 points | 4 votes | 1 No. 1 Vote Studio VersionLive in GermanyILX Pre-Covers LULU Versions by Virgin Killer and Sean Carruthers
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link
lol hey
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 6 July 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
btw "eye of the beholder" was my highest vote from justice, amazing chorus
No Lulu on Spotify, so you'll have to settle for a concession.
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:37 (eight years ago) link
Not giving too much away by saying this is the longest song on the poll.
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link
beyond reed's devastating vocal i think this song is the apex of "gentle" metallica, i.e. "unforgiven," "hero of the day" etc. they just find this gorgeous, simple phrase and wring the most pathos out of it. also love lars' changeable snare hits at the end of each measure
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 6 July 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link
imo lars is often less a shitty drummer than just another guitar
http://i.imgur.com/f70Kf1a.jpg22. "Of Wolf & Man" • Metallica, 1991
112 points | | 5 votes | 1 No. 1 voteRemastered Studio Versionhttp://i.imgur.com/HLmkLM4.png
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 20:01 (eight years ago) link
Counted up the points, saw where this one landed, and went "Oh really?"
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 20:02 (eight years ago) link
the black album still sounds so fucking expensive.
― lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 6 July 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
i mean it has to be the most hi-fi metal album ever, right?
― lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 6 July 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link
Well, compared to St. Anger or the tin shed sounds of And Justice, I'd say so.
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 20:06 (eight years ago) link
All right, final one of the day coming up. We'll get 20-11 tomorrow and wrap up on Wednesday.
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 20:22 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/JUwSLWd.jpg21. "Damage Inc." • Master of Puppets, 1986115 points | 7 points
Studio VersionLive in Denmark, 1986
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 20:24 (eight years ago) link
don't fuck with Razorback!http://i.imgur.com/L3LXs2c.png
I voted for the earliest Shark Jumping moment and the best album too!Will post my list when it's all rolled out.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 6 July 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link
25. Enter Sandman24. Eye of the Beholder23. Junior Dad22. Of Wolf & Man21. Damage Inc.
Spotify Playlist
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link
Kind of randomly listened to "Damage Inc." after years of dismissing it, and I ended up including it on my ballot for that intro alone.
― :wq (Leee), Monday, 6 July 2015 20:34 (eight years ago) link
just catching up now.
wow, those really are phenomenal graphics. truly, a work of art.
interesting to see Lightning blowing everything else out of the water. it's always been my sentimental favourite, but i tend to meet more Puppets worshipers.
eclectic results so far! the opening riff on Eye of the Beholder slays me every time, slow crescendo and all. Damage, Inc. is such a rush. maybe their heaviest song, pound for pound.
― charlie h, Monday, 6 July 2015 20:36 (eight years ago) link
that live version of Damage Inc. is beastly
― lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 6 July 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link
It's one of those -you-had-to-be-there things, but one of my best segues back in college radio days was going from "Eiffel Tower High" by Hüsker Dü into "Damage Inc." - starting the latter about 40 seconds before the former had ended.
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link
Been scouring around for a copy of " ...And Justice for Jason," and so far ... no dice. It's on youtube, in pieces, and there is supposedly a version with his isolated Guitar Hero tracks mixed in, but it's been pretty well scrubbed from at least the first few layers of the internet.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 July 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link
while we're celebrating Metallica, i was thinking about their more complicated/proggy tracks and how, even more than most metal bands, the writing seems really natural and unforced. maybe it's just because when i committed them to memory in middle school i didn't know how to break it down, but i never think about the time signatures when i listen to them. i'm pretty sure they don't either. they're just composed of little cells of riffage that can be expanded, contracted, rearranged, etc.
― lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link
Do they have stuff not in 4/4 or 3/4?
― :wq (Leee), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link
while we're celebrating Metallica, i was thinking about their more complicated/proggy tracks and how, even more than most metal bands, the writing seems really natural and unforced
this is essentially the failure of death magnetic imo, songs that try to simulate their first four records but come off forced and unnatural
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link
"sanitarium"'s time signature is all over the damn place.
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:15 (eight years ago) link
Black album was when I first listened to Metallica. All the scary guys at the local swimming pool wore Justice or Puppets tank tops so I just assumed from that that I wouldnt like them
Thing I remember most about Enter Sandman was how awesome it sounded to me that very first time, and then later how disappointed I was by the video
"A fucking TRUCK? ... How is that scary?"
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:34 (eight years ago) link
it's not like they'll play in 5 or in 7 for a whole verse, but on AJFA they're constantly taking a 4/4 riff and adding or taking away beats. 'Blackened' is crazy.
― lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link
My step-brother got me to listen to Master of Puppets on our summer vacation to Florida. It was one of those first times where I got excited because here was something new that I was definitely going to enjoy.
Though that trek out of "Orion" and into that whale song intro of Damage Inc. could lull you to sleep before turning on you and making you go
http://i.imgur.com/TF8JHiR.gif
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:51 (eight years ago) link
Tell you what, that is one hilarious gif.
― pplains, Monday, 6 July 2015 21:52 (eight years ago) link
haha so otm
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link
I discovered that I liked Puppets when one of the guys in my art class put it on the cassette player (art class is where dorky me learned about anything that wasnt played on the radio)
i remember hearing Orion in that class and being like O_O
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 July 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link
I wonder if the reason we only got 18 ballots was because ILX skews young now and no one remembers /V|etallic|-\ when they were relevant?
― :wq (Leee), Monday, 6 July 2015 22:50 (eight years ago) link
idk if it's exactly that, though different age groups might have different levels of engagement
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 03:23 (eight years ago) link
my metallica fandom was definitely extended by my 70 year old piano teacher suddenly becoming a big fan of s&m
gonna leave that sentence as is
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 03:24 (eight years ago) link
lol
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 July 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link
Hey, the italics show up on my browser.
― pplains, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 03:35 (eight years ago) link
Welcome Home
pplains wrote this at 2015-07-08 15:25:34.000
Definitely spent the weekend wandering around the house with my guitar playing mostly low E.
― how's life, Monday, 13 July 2015 10:43 (eight years ago) link
sad I missed this. I woulda picked the title track to RTL was my #1, but y'all did good work.
I was thinking today how FB or social media not existing during the release of Load actually made the internet reactions better. The meltdowns on USENet were gold.
example from noted poster "Loser Poser":
"hmm... I was wondering which names would suit best for the Metallicamembers, because I personally feel that Metallica doesen't deserve the nameMetallica anymore...because the new albums load off with bollocks 1 and 2are...what they are.So here's my choices:
producer Bob Rock--------> Pop Pop
James Hetfield------------> Heinz ShitfieldLars Ulrich--------> Mars BullshitKirk Hammet-----------> Hint GaymintJason Newsted--------> Jason Voorhees...ooops wrong name, I meantPlayson Newsdead
and finally Metallica---------> Wimpallica"
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 19 October 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link
and reply..
From: limp...@a✧✧.c✧✧ (LiMpDoG 23)Subject: Re: new names to Metallica membersDate: 1998/10/23Message-ID: <19981023152✧✧✧.21✧✧✧.00000✧✧✧@ng-✧✧✧.a✧✧.c✧✧>#1/1X-Deja-AN: 404385335References: <363b9✧✧✧.4844✧✧✧@n✧✧✧.swb✧✧✧.n✧✧>Organization: AOL http://www.aol.comNewsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallicaX-Admin: ne...@a✧✧.c✧✧
>Re: new names to Metallica
im tired of these fucking peice of shit wannabe metallica fanz. If they dontlike their new shit , they can go fuck a goat. They can make better music thanany other fucking hipocrit faggot ass poser who thinks he likes metallica ________________ . .. . |. R I P :::::: . | | :: .|| CLIFF BURTON || ||________________|
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 19 October 2015 16:51 (eight years ago) link
and this old favorite, featuring one of my favorite ascerbic WebTVers from back in the day...
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica/aincerahttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica/aincera$20load/alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica/qb6nyF3kk14/tBxMsVpGYBEJ0load/alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica/qb6nyF3kk14/tBxMsVpGYBEJ
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 19 October 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link
Internet humour has stayed roughly at the same level of sophistication for nineteen years then.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 19 October 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link
pretty much.
y'know going back to Disposable Heroes, this was a song that took me like most of my adult life to love. I used to think it was just a gimmicky, hookless speedfest, but really this is one of the most interesting songs on the album, the speed isn't why it's interesting.
something about the way Jaymz roars "I was born for dyiiiiiiiin'" gives me chills now. hard to believe he once actually had principles that he wasn't afraid to commit to on record, years before publicly giving his wishy-washy "I don't really have 'opinions' man" bet hedging....
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 19 October 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link
Disposable Heroes is phenomenal.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 19 October 2015 17:06 (eight years ago) link
I posted this yesterday on a different thread, but since this one is bumped...
https://youtu.be/EdXp1nhmzW0?t=2m39s
― how's life, Monday, 19 October 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link
Mars Bullshit
― pplains, Monday, 19 October 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link
Also, is "Loser Poser" supposed to rhyme or
how do I tell Jaymz I hate the paint job on his car-inspired guitar
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 19 October 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link
what was the first Metallica release everybody owned?
for me it was the cd single of "One/Eye of the Beholder", cos it was all I could afford with my allowance and my mom didn't want me using her money to buy "Metallica" albums even though she had no fucking idea who they were.
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 19 October 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link
First owned an audio dub of the One video that I made by holding a cassette recorder up to the TV (also got "We Want Eazy" by Eazy-E and "Punk Rock Girl" by the Dead Milkmen that day). Next bought a cassingle of One/The Prince. Then I bought MOP and AJFA on the same day.
― how's life, Monday, 19 October 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link
Also, realized I was wrong upthread about Blackened being the first Metallica song I ever heard. I must have been getting my facts wrong in the excitement of the poll.
― how's life, Monday, 19 October 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link
I really missed out. had I given a shit at the time, I coulda had several of my classmates dub me copies of their Metallica albums, but I was listening pretty much to MC Hammer between 1988-1991 and Aerosmith/Ace of Base by 1993. didn't even get the black album til 1995 :/
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 19 October 2015 17:51 (eight years ago) link
I do remember waiting up to hear "Until It Sleeps" the night it dropped (at the time I liked it)...and then did the same for Re-Load.
at first, during the intro, I was all like
http://www.rantlifestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/nic-cage.jpg
and then the verse riff came in and I was like
http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2011/02/kobe-disappointed.jpg
― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 19 October 2015 20:14 (eight years ago) link
My first 'tallica was probably AJFA and then the Black Album.
― :wq (Leee), Monday, 19 October 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link
I had Kill 'Em All (and the "Jump in the Fire" 12") on vinyl, but never owned Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets. Picked up again with the $5.98 EP on cassette, then ...And Justice For All on vinyl (preceded by the "Eye of the Beholder" cassette single). I think I had the Black Album on cassette, then never bought anything else until Death Magnetic on CD.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 19 October 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link
Lars Ulrich and James Hetfield from Metallica came over and we did some outrageous partying. Sally was there and I remember there was a girl that James wanted to fuck and I let him take her into my bedroom. They were in there for a while and I had to get in there to get something, so I crept in quietly and saw James head-fucking her. He was standing on the bed, ramming her head against the wall, moaning in that thunderous voice of his, just slamming away, and bellowing "That'll be fine! That'll be fine! Yes! That'll be fine!"
― how's life, Thursday, 22 October 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link
is this wishful thinking, or did someone once make an ambient Metallica mix of all their pretty classical intros and baroque breakdowns?
Did a little searching to no avail, but did find this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIdm5hNeymE
― MarmiteGrrrl (Leee), Sunday, 18 March 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link