― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 20 May 2004 16:26 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 May 2004 16:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 May 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago) link
I love how each record they make gets more and more minimal, but it doesn't diminish the impact at all.
With the benefit of hindsight, Darren Emerson leaving seems to have been beneficial.
― Keith Watson (kmw), Thursday, 20 May 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:02 (twenty years ago) link
That said, they are one of my faves.
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 26 June 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 27 June 2004 00:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 27 June 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago) link
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 27 June 2004 18:44 (twenty years ago) link
― todd swiss (eliti), Sunday, 27 June 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 28 June 2004 05:59 (twenty years ago) link
― gem (trisk), Monday, 28 June 2004 06:07 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 June 2004 13:09 (twenty years ago) link
I think it would ride pretty high in my best of the 90s, FWIW. For all I know I might have bypassed electronic music almost entirely if not for that album and 'In Sides'
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 28 June 2004 13:36 (twenty years ago) link
"Juanite/Kiteless/Confusion The Waitress" would pass muster if it wasn't 8,000 years long.
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:11 (twenty years ago) link
Mencap, me too! I owe it al to STITI. It's the record that got me into electronic music, house music, DANCE music even.
gem, is that comp really worth buying? Couldn't I just burn it myself? What's the appeal?
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:49 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 June 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:35 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:42 (twenty years ago) link
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 June 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 28 June 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 28 June 2004 19:35 (twenty years ago) link
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 28 June 2004 23:41 (twenty years ago) link
'Rez' was a rare example of a video making me dislike the track more (which i initially thought was ok, then liked a lot) as opposed to the other way round. still prefer 'Cowgirl' tho.
― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:48 (twenty years ago) link
Heh, the last three on there especially just kind of go by in a nameless haze (bringing us back to roxy's point).
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:49 (twenty years ago) link
not if you have all of the originals of course. but i don't. so it was for me.
― gem (trisk), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:51 (twenty years ago) link
There is nothing in the songs "Blueski", "Stagger" and "Juanita" (for example) that sounds anything like anything in the other two.
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 01:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 04:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 05:21 (twenty years ago) link
partly i think the danceability of second toughest is subtle yet powerful- the repetitive figures of the "juanita/kiteless" opening block at first just make you bounce around a little bit, jiggle a leg in your seat or whatever, but by later you're humming along with the vocoder and it picks up speed. this is opposed to the danceability of, say, "push upstairs," which just starts bashing down the door and forcing you to dance with the detroit-ness of it all and builds even more on that.
― .rob (rgeary), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 05:30 (twenty years ago) link
neither is a better approach.
― .rob (rgeary), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 05:32 (twenty years ago) link
OTM OTM OTM OTM and incidentally this is why "Pearl's Girl" is the only track on the album that works.
_Second Toughest..._ comes across like they took the miniscule edge of _dubnobass..._ and sanded it off of every track, leaving a completely innoffensive and uninvolving puddle of bland (with the SOLE exception of "Pearl's Girl"); the entire reason why most of those songs work better in a live situation is because beefed up through a gigantic club system with all of the live filter processing and feedback inherent in the setup the tracks regain bite and crispness. I first heard most of the _Second Toughest..._ material live at one of their shows in support of the album and was DEEPLY LET DOWN by the faceless blancmange that they put in the stores, so I basically turned back to the drum n bass CDs that were piling up next to my stereo and wrote them off for YEARS.
― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 29 June 2004 12:12 (twenty years ago) link
― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:15 (twenty years ago) link
― The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 7 October 2004 08:34 (twenty years ago) link
I've been meaning to listen to dubnobass and stiti again - it's been a while.
― sleep (sleep), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Dark Horse, Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:27 (twenty years ago) link
SpoonmanJuanita: Kiteless (preferably in some version that cuts the "To Dream of Love" part) EclipseMinneapolisConfusion the WaitressCherry PieCupsDark & Longmaybe Why Why Why
burn a CD-R, get the hits, and that should be about all that's necessary.
― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 7 October 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago) link
― still bevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 7 October 2004 18:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:01 (twenty years ago) link
Rick and Karl will be presenting Tuesday night's show. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/thisweek/thisweek.shtml#sess1
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:38 (twenty years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 21:03 (twenty years ago) link
― biznotic, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 January 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link