Justin Bieber

u guys need to stop humoring bieber u might think ur helping him but ur not

― lag∞n, Friday, August 28, 2015 10:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this

us. trust. couple words he can't spell without u.

― dyl, Saturday, August 29, 2015 10:49 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

great line

fucking. douche. couple things he can't spell without u.

http://2dopeboyz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/big-sean-thumb.jpg

its cause he a teen idol not a proper pop star

feel like we could get a thousand posts out of this claim if we set our minds to it

lets do it im in

ok man I'm calling your bluff here there's no distinction between these two terms in 2015, it's just different marketing departments

not sure I actually believe that so if it provides better grist let's go instead w/Bieber's been doing this for seven years. that's way out of teen idol range, teen idols rise and fall and are forgotten. Bieber's a pop star with a very young base, which is different from a teen idol

"Baby" doesn't approach critical consensus?

not really. it's kind of his legacy song because it broke YouTube records and YouTube has been the catalyst and primary metric for most of his success, but it's not remotely his biggest radio hit, and critics never really cared about it. they did briefly care about "Boyfriend" because it/the video were transparent Timberlake career narrative cosplay, but that didn't last long.

"boyfriend" was music critic consensus

staggering consensus too
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/singles/2012/Qm95ZnJpZW5kfHx8SnVzdGluIEJpZWJlcg==

Haha hey I know Michelle

bieber's feature on the new travis scott album is great. his part surprisingly fits in really well.

ok man I'm calling your bluff here there's no distinction between these two terms in 2015, it's just different marketing departments

not sure I actually believe that so if it provides better grist let's go instead w/Bieber's been doing this for seven years. that's way out of teen idol range, teen idols rise and fall and are forgotten. Bieber's a pop star with a very young base, which is different from a teen idol

― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seven years is a long time for a teen idol but a good chuck of that reflects the industries fevered attempt to sell him to a wider audience, like he hasnt really been a hitmaker since 2012

which is somewhat obscured especially around these parts cause we live in an era where critics love teen pop lol

Teen poop

Tween idol might be more accurate.

him not being a presence the last 3 years was at least semi-deliberate -- "What Do You Mean" is the first real full scale solo radio single he's released since "Beauty And A Beat" in late 2012. his team kind of bent over backwards to engineer that break, though, releasing Journals songs once a week so it'd be a 'compilation' and not an 'album' and the label asking Billboard not to report sales so that people couldn't analyze how well or poorly it was charting, which is kind of unprecedented and crazy to me. it seems like they saw the tabloid meltdown narrative building steam and decided to wait it out so that the next album would be The Comeback without ever really suffering The Flop first.

yeah i mean it was the flop

it was engineered that way though

it's also obviously like... a side project. R&B is not heating up the charts atm

i imagine the realization that they shd prob not really push the project came some time after the recording of it, like they were trying to make a grown n sexy justin a la jt timberlake but it kinda went off the rails

does bieber have a new album in the can, did they get diplo to be in charge of it, cause

the diplo track was one of the stronger ones from believe

Journals was great though.

also 10 songs from that album charted on the hot 100 based on itunes sales alone

seems to me like they wanted to throw some music out there just to satiate his fans but w/o rolling out a whole album. maybe they were testing the r&b waters too.

i think if it was a scrapped new direction the list of people who worked on it would look a lot different. the most famous person who produced on that record aside from blackchild was t-minus/

i think if it was a scrapped new direction the list of people who worked on it would look a lot different. the most famous person who produced on that record aside from blackchild was t-minus.

i like this song too. i didn't plan on liking it, but i like it and think it is good.

Bieber's gonna get praise for undersinging for the kind of post-house track that would've been all the rage by Gorgon City two years ago.

i don't think y'all need to worry about bieber 'getting praised' (by ppl whose opinions are seen as more legitimate/valid than his fans') lol

What Gorgon City song does it sound like?( serious question)

https://vine.co/v/O1qthKOQ13A

Video is a pretty bit of Cocaine Noir eye candy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK_0jXPuIr0

(I like the song too, btw)

is bieber part of toronto douchewave now

song kind of sounds like unicorn kid

like this is now seeming kind of prescient to me idk

https://soundcloud.com/unicornkid/im-on-one-unicorn-kid-stadium

lol it does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzQU7KmwRoc

i wish the video was daytime beach instead of nighttime noir tbh...doesn't fit the ~vibe~

I'm always surprised when I like anything of this nature, but I like "What Do You Mean?"

I really like that Jack U track that he's on

have come around hard on "what," one of the stronger singles of the year for sure

I love this song.

OMG YES UNICORN KID

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/09/14/justin_bieber_s_what_do_you_mean_is_no_1_on_the_billboard_hot_100_how_he.html

Molanphy looks at the stats and the music and more of "What Do You Mean" plus "Where Are U Now"

Re: the Slate article, it seems clear already that the song is reaching a wider audience than just his fanbase. His fanbase almost certainly turned out in huge numbers in the first week, but the song was still #1 in sales in its second week despite the typical decline, and though it fell in the second week on the Hot 100, it only fell to #3. For comparison, any given One Direction lead single debuts high in the top 3 in the first week due to their fans and then almost completely vacates the top 10 by the second week due to a huge sales decline and no radio support. On that note, "What Do You Mean" is currently top 15 on radio overall less than a month after it's release to any major radio format. So I think it's safe to say "What Do You Mean?" is appealing to more than just his fanbase.

Sounded really great on Fallon. Whoever the sound engineer is for that show should win some kind of award every year.

Or go work for SNL.

ha yeeeah

https://twitter.com/Shelovesmeechie/status/652924017654005760

love this song