Listening through to the Cleric album again. Makes a mockery of most 'extreme metal'. So fucking amazing. I'm aware that 'metal taken to new levels' generally arouses the ire of the keymasters, though, so I'll just have to trust you'll follow my lead (before dismissing it as impetuous wank)
― twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 28 September 2015 10:59 (eight years ago) link
Emperor - IX EquilibriumAnaal Nathrakh - When Fire Rains Down From The Sky, Mankind Will Reap As It Has Sown
― paolo, Monday, 28 September 2015 11:07 (eight years ago) link
Crown, the - Hell Is HereCrown, the - Deathrace KingDefleshed - Under the BladeDefleshed - Fast Forward
SPEED FOR SATAN
― Devilock, Sunday, 27 September 2015 22:57 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I totally forgot about that band
The Crown - Crowned In Terror
― paolo, Monday, 28 September 2015 11:11 (eight years ago) link
Palehorse - Gee, that ain't swell3 Stages Of Pain - With Chaos In Her Wake
― paolo, Monday, 28 September 2015 11:17 (eight years ago) link
Cult Of Luna - The Beyond
(if we can have Isis and Neurosis we can have CoL imo)
Through Silver In Blood is probably my favourite metal album of all time but I probably won't vote for it here. It's utterly classic but I wouldn't really call it extreme. If anything it sounds quite ancient and fundamental - an album that lies very centrally within what metal is.
― twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 28 September 2015 11:23 (eight years ago) link
Gorguts - ObscuraBolt Thrower - Those Once Loyal
― charlie h, Monday, 28 September 2015 11:30 (eight years ago) link
I need to hear that Cleric album. (The guitarist is in John Zorn's new trio Simulacrum, which I would nominate but it wouldn't get any votes.)
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 28 September 2015 12:51 (eight years ago) link
Ah, you know what? Fuck it.
Naked City - Torture GardenNaked City - Leng T'ChePainkiller - Guts of a VirginPainkiller - Buried Secrets (features members of Godflesh!)John Zorn - Moonchild: Songs Without WordsJohn Zorn - SimulacrumJohn Zorn - The True Discovery of Witches and DevilsJohn Zorn - Inferno
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 28 September 2015 12:52 (eight years ago) link
Darkthrone - Panzerfaust
I have a question about Nihilist. Legendary band from Sweden that became Entombed, and their demos were huge influences for not only the Swedish death metal scene, but due to tape trading, made waves pretty much everywhere that extreme metal was happening. However, they never released a full length record, only demos. They have an amazing comp of these demos called 1987-1989. Is that eligible?
― Dominique, Monday, 28 September 2015 13:14 (eight years ago) link
I think I need to try Zorn's metal stuff again. I've been trying to get into Electric Masada recently but I'm finding it quite difficult (I struggle with jazz in general). I have one of the Moonchild albums somewhere but I rarely listen to it. Too much screeching from Zorn and Patton.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 28 September 2015 13:14 (eight years ago) link
imago seems to be one of those who dismisses not only original metal but also original extreme metal.
Metal did not start with death or black metal.
the neurosis/insert any band here arent extreme stuff is for the 16 year olds just into metal bullshit
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 15:52 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, but it's 2015 now
Anyway, enough. It's all extreme by some standard. Carry on
― twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 28 September 2015 15:54 (eight years ago) link
I would argue that Neurosis are plenty extreme but as a mostly post-hardcore band, not very metal.
― Siegbran, Monday, 28 September 2015 15:58 (eight years ago) link
i don't think Neurosis strictly like being referred to as metal, but it's very heavy stuff regardless.
― charlie h, Monday, 28 September 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link
and goths deny they're goths. lol
imago what has 2015 got to do with anything? its a poll for best extreme metal albums. Its more or less been decided extreme metal started around 1980/81 so what if things have gotten more extreme since?
The history of metal is very important to metallers especially as outsiders despised it and wouldn't allow it in their own canon.
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link
I cant remember if this is the article I referred to earlier or not but if not its another that says 1981https://twophoton.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/history-of-extreme-metal-part-1-1981-1984/
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 16:19 (eight years ago) link
https://twophoton.wordpress.com/2009/04/12/history-of-extreme-metal-part-ii-dawn-of-death-metal-1985-88/
https://twophoton.wordpress.com/2009/05/16/history-of-extreme-metal-part-iii-golden-age-of-thrash-1985-89/
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 16:23 (eight years ago) link
http://loudwire.com/top-extreme-metal-albums/
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 16:26 (eight years ago) link
...anyway, unless there's a no comp rule, I say Nihilist goes in
Nihilist - 1987-1989
― Dominique, Monday, 28 September 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link
I think frobisher said pre album tape demos are allowed so presumably that is allowed?
if so then I nominate the Paul Chain era Death SS
The Story of Death SS. 1977–1984
that's the roots of Hellhammer right there I reckon tom g mustve been aware of them
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link
Hey everyone! I have some things to take care of today so I'll be away for a number of hours...
Yes, early unreleased/demo stuff is allowed, just note that as a lot of people won't have heard it, it might not garner a lot of votes.
I hate to say this cause I think it sounds elitist, but I don't think taking a sort of outside/empirical view and attempting to develop a really objective standard for extreme metal is productive or beneficial. I think if you've been into metal for years, having a degree of breadth and depth to it, knowing the woof and warp of it sort of intuitively is a better way of sorting things out.
Of course this poll is not just for die-hard metal fans who have listened for years & years so if you like something and you think its metal or highly related to metal and is ~extreme~ to you then go ahead and nominate it.
― Frobisher, Monday, 28 September 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
cool, thanks. Yeah, tho the Nihilist comp is demos, IMO it's as good or better than any other DM around at the time (and particularly relevant for new school revivalist bands playing OSDM). Seriously, if you haven't heard it folks, hear it!
― Dominique, Monday, 28 September 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link
Do these count?
Earth - Earth 2Sunn O))) - Black OneMelvins - HoudiniPoison - Into the AbyssMinistry - ΚΕΦΑΛΗΞΘ [Psalm 69]Warning - Warning
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 28 September 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
yes those count
― Frobisher, Monday, 28 September 2015 18:12 (eight years ago) link
At what point do Opeth albums become disqualified as not metal?
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link
When Mikael Akerfeldt says they're not a metal band anymore - so, basically, Heritage and Pale Communion.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 28 September 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link
Gojira - From Mars to Sirius
― BlackIronPrison, Monday, 28 September 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
cheers phil
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link
have we got all the important death, black and thrash albums nominated?
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 19:18 (eight years ago) link
Atheist - Piece of TimeAtheist - Unquestionable Presence
― jmm, Monday, 28 September 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
if we have extra spaces on our ballots it's okay to vote for all the deafheaven albums twice right
― j., Monday, 28 September 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link
PornograffitiIII Sides to Every Story
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 September 2015 19:49 (eight years ago) link
and the second person to make the joke award goes to..
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link
OK two more then I'm probably done
Code - Nouveau GloamingVirus - The Black Flux
― ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 28 September 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
Boris - at Last -Feedbacker-Melvins - Lysol Jesu - JesuNadja - Touched Boris - Amplifier WorshipSunn O))) - ØØ Void Sunn O))) - 3: Flight of the Behemoth Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood Monarch - 666
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link
Vlad Tepes/Belketre - March to the Black HolocaustCarnage - Dark RecollectionsMayhem - Live in LeipzigPaysage d'Hiver - s/tGorgoroth - Antichrist
― Dominique, Monday, 28 September 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link
Merciless - The Awakening
― Dominique, Monday, 28 September 2015 20:43 (eight years ago) link
O if we're nominating Bèlketre then surely Ambre Zuèrkl Vuorhdrévarvtre must be in there (cheers Dominique for the heads-up on that)
― twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 28 September 2015 20:45 (eight years ago) link
Solstafir - Svartir SandarSolstafir - Otta
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link
Aren't they a post-rock band?
Everything is extreme
― twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 28 September 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link
post black metal if you really must use such terms
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link
you dont need to vote for anything you dont consider extreme
infact will you even vote?
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
course I'm going to vote :)
― twunty fifteen (imago), Monday, 28 September 2015 20:55 (eight years ago) link
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, September 28, 2015 2:56 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ooooh wow, I wasn't prepared for this...wow...sorry let me look at my notes. Well, first off I've got to thank Frobisher for starting this thread -- I couldn't have made it without you! Thanks for giving me a shot, I know there were a lot of established metalheads who wanted to be the second person to make this joke, so your faith in me is something I'll always remember...
wow...I'm sorry, there are just so many people to thank...I need to thank Cosmic Slop, you've always been my rock, my inspiration though the years....and most importantly my wife and daughter...this joke and all my jokes wouldn't be possible without your love and support.
Thanks everyone!
― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 September 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
I'm not a metal expert by any stretch but I'm interpreting the poll as "the best albums that come under the umbrella term of 'extreme metal'" rather than "the most extreme albums that are metal". I mean I'm sure everyone's ballot will have some stuff on it that's not extreme as some of the other stuff they're voting for. Also there are many ways metal can be extreme!
― Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 28 September 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link
imago's just butthurt frobisher vetoed a hip-hop album
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link
has anyone done a spotify playlist?
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link
Only one Bolt Thrower nominated?
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 21:52 (eight years ago) link
two right?
― Siegbran, Monday, 28 September 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link