Justin Bieber

i dunno what 'wet' means in this context but i agree, they're wet as shit

Enjoying his current grooves, as is Em. Liked the TFI appearance, having hated the video for WDYM. This is fine too.

we've only heard 3 songs and 2/3 are far better than "boyfriend" at least so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

"wet" like dipped in formaldehyde and dopey?

wet is that confusing an adjective? drippy and bland

"boyfriend" is probably his second best ever song

"what do u mean" is obviously his best single by a mile

i mean i love "baby" as much as the next terius stan but i'm excited about the nu-biebera

"what do u mean" is obviously his best single by a mile

― k3vin k., Tuesday, October 27, 2015 12:03 PM

This, and I like "Boyfriend."

i love dry music. it's my favorite kind.

where are u now > sorry > what do u mean

agreed

where are you now is my least fav

and 'as long as you love me' is as good as any of the new songs

sounds like Blood is on more than one track? wiki credits for the album have quite a diverse writer-ship... production isn't up there fully yet. interesting to see whether there is cohesiveness or not
http://www.thefader.com/2015/10/27/bloodpop-justin-bieber-sorry-making-hoverboards

http://i.imgur.com/MxKYKwY.jpg

"I'm human and I'm working at getting beer"

...

He probably gets ID'd a lot still in shops.

poor Biebz

Yet another one from him and Skrillex.

http://digg.com/video/bieber-ill-show-you

the poor lil rich boy thing seems carefully calibrated to piss off non-fans, especially when the video is him just sorta chilling in immensely beautiful country by himself and complaining

Adra Sagr 17 minutes ago
These lyrics are so good, i feel sorry for him, I can't imagine how hard his life actually is

three boring singles out of three so far, and this one is annoying as well

why is he suddenly cool among critics and on social media though, when i repped for "boyfriend" and "as long as you love me" there was none of this

"Boyfriend" is cool, and so are "Sorry" and "What Do You Mean." No controversy.

i don't mean anyone specific, just what the general consensus seems to be

why is he suddenly cool among critics and on social media though

because he's entered his "adult" phase

o the mystery

this dude is a pox upon music and everyone flinging kudos at him should be embarrassed and ashamed of themselves

lex is right that it's weird that suddenly everybody's all "I'm into this new Bieber jam" when two years ago they wouldn't have crossed the street to shit on him, like when he was doing Music Mondays

wait, is getting shit upon a net positive now

modern life is terrifying

hint: he turned 21

this is just like when Britney or Justin or [insert teen pop sensation] got old enough for adult interest in them to not smack of pedophilia

Britney had some interesting material before she turned 21 though, despite sounding like a constipated duck

why is he suddenly cool among critics and on social media though

more interesting, less pandering production (thanks Skrillex)?

backlash to the backlash to the backlash dept: Journals had several really good tracks that eluded critical interest somehow. I will still rep for what's hatnin', confident, all that matters, bad day, roller coaster (though dan should avoid these as they will hurt his head)
though they more or less sound entirely the same, i find myself very much drawn to sorry and where are u now and repelled by what do you mean and i'll show you. shrug emoticon.

I'm just speaking to a general trend in career arcs of teen pop stars that's pretty consistent and fairly obvious imo. if they're interested in any kind of career longevity in the industry they make the leap to "respectable" hitmakers (usually via some bids for being controversial or otherwise adult; "I'm all grown up now!") and attempt to age with their generation

xp

Shaun Cassidy still pissed that he put all that work into Wasp and hired Todd Rundgren and covered Bowie and people wouldn't shit on him even if he crossed over to their side of the street

I like the sound of the new tracks is all. No big conspiracy.

Rolling Pop Coprophagy 2016

Shaun gets SERIOUS
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/Shaun_Cassidy_Wasp.jpg

"Really enjoyed 1D's new sound. Shat all over the cover, front and back"

Shat on Shaun's back
now Dan is keeping mum

Cassidy's half life sure was short. i'm listening to his version of Rebel Rebel and wooooooooooo boy

i am familiar with the "all grown up" now arc of a teenpop star's career thankyou, i am just wondering why this seems so divorced from his music for so many people. his music was getting interesting & good three years ago!

more interesting, less pandering production (thanks Skrillex)?

don't really hear anything more interesting or less pandering in the new songs' production than say "as long as you love me" which is a pretty high peak in his discography, or several other tracks on believe

i never did check out journals, weirdly when i interviewed k michelle she went on about how great it was for AGES

i am just wondering why this seems so divorced from his music for so many people

narrative trumps product

it's a good r&b record

unlike lex i do think "where are u now", "what do you mean" and "sorry" are some of his best work so i can see why people are really into them

but i do think this is a case where a pop star being more consciously grown up in sound (i.e. the verses on "where are u now") makes it ok for some people to approach his music, where there was still something goofy and immature about "boyfriend" or "beauty and a beat"

also i wouldn't discount the fact that he became a tabloid fixture in between the two records. more interest in his celebrity is going to generate interest in his music even amongst ostensible critics (this same principle applies to rihanna becoming a huge concern among tastemakers on the internet despite releasing like 3 songs in the last two years)

iirc people were hyped abt boyfriend at the time but believe was kind of a disappointment and

i don't think it has anything to do with his age. teen pop stars who successfully become adult pop stars are outliers we just all collectively forget about the ones who don't, like it's not a general trend for people to positively critically reevaluate like willa ford or whoever when they reach 21

also *lifts cloth off lex ears* new biebs... sounds different? i liked some of old-biebs singles but new shit is miles ahead of all but the best of his past output \o/

*and killed the momentum

teen pop stars who successfully become adult pop stars are outliers we just all collectively forget about the ones who don't, like it's not a general trend for people to positively critically reevaluate like willa ford or whoever when they reach 21

most teen pop stars look at the odds and cash out without even bothering trying to become an adult pop star - cuz the road is brutal and the rewards are not clear. If you've already made millions by the time yr 21, why not take yr ball and go home and do something else (as most do?) The outliers are either those who really deeply crave artistic credibility or are psychotically narcissistic enough that they crave pop-star levels of fame/attention and can't envision existing without it.

... or are attempting to pursue careers in their chosen profession by following the avenue where they've so far had the most success?

I mean, I hate Bieber to death but this is like saying that Bill Gates is a raging narcissist for continuing to pursue a career in software after selling DOS to IBM.

don't really hear anything more interesting or less pandering in the new songs' production than say "as long as you love me" which is a pretty high peak in his discography, or several other tracks on believe

had to go listen to 'as long as you love me' but that pop-dubstep thing (with the Skrillex-esque drums, ironically) definitely reads as less 'mature' than the new tracks.

xp

i don't think it's true at all that most teen pop stars elect to not pursue fame, some of them just wash out