ty dolla $ign -- free tc

this bangs

i love the harmonies on this record and they sort of create a thru line back to the smeared atmospherics of 'beach house'

big kush
long money
bad girls
real nig**s
here with me

Horses In the Stable is my fav on here I think. Solid through Miracle/whatever is a great stretch.

yeah that part is great. "miracle" is really cool and "wherever" is a great beach house style track with more upgraded production. i actually really like the kanye/diddy track too, it's funny that he did an overt gospel record with them.

love the line in horses in stable that's like 'met a girl in catalina, took it down last time i see her'

i need to spend a little more time w/ this

hear blase all the time and i think it is pretty good but has reached saturation point for me at least

i keep going back to solid, so many great lines

i just keep running "credit" and "miracle/whenever" on a loop

a bunch of this album -- including primarily those two songs -- were done by d'mile, hero of dirty money "shades"

Nice. yeah credit is superb

credit is my shit yeah. back half of this drags a bit though. 'bring it out of me' filed under mustardwave that totally misses the mark

i like that one but it's weird, it's like just a mustard song on fast forward. bizarre that he worked with stargate and ended up with a song that is such a mustard rip.

but yeah it seems like they weren't really sure what to do with the singles. "sittin pretty" (which i love) transitions into "when i see ya" pretty well but "blase" and "only right" are def just tacked on there, and then "bring it out of me" feels tacked on. "actress" is kind of a letdown but the sa ra track is dope.

the first run of 10 songs i find pretty flawless tho

yeah the kelz colab is disapoiinting for sure. sa ra track is out of place but individually good. track with jagged edge is ok but otherwise the first 2/3 of this is great.

he sells horses in the stable so well i come out of it somehow feeling sad for him

guilty lol @ the analogy btw

i guilty lol throughout the whole album

i have a feeling his next project will be better...he made his big major label album, now i want beach house 3...something in between this & airplane mode (which was recorded in a weekend) is my ideal Ty i think

LA turned out a lot better than the leaked version

i think this is pretty much the ideal major label ty record but i wouldn't be surprised if he did a future-style thing and tried to go back to his roots to reboot his career a bit

yeah i don't necessarily think this album could have been better. just that now that its out, he'll be a little more free to be like, 'fuck it' and not chase the Current Sound

This album has so many (conflicting but) working definitions of "smooth".

it's the middle stretch of this album that really sags imo. obv never listening to "la" again but "saved" through to "horses in the stable" is pretty impeccable, then the trey and sevyn collabs are good-not-great, but then "miracle/wherever" and "guard down" completely halt the momentum...they sound so scratchily recorded and aimless and go on forever. then it only really regains its stride with the banger singles shoved at the end

feel like "credit" could have leaned a lot more on its humorous premise...ty doesn't do half of what prime kellz would have done with the potentially ludicrous hook and the guest spot the song needs is sevyn running with the humour not being bland and mushy

def see how "blasé"/"only right"/"bring it out of me" feel tacked on but they're also better songs than much of the album

what's wrong with la?

"Miracle"/""wherever" is an album highlight IMO

I don't think blase feels tacked on its just kinda there

> "What's wrong with la

traffic, mostly.

i like that sevyn part especially 'you want a cookie but that's how it should be'

Miracle/Wherever is too long but it features some of Ty's best singing.

The arrangements throughout are gorgeous, but my favorite moment is Credit's piano/sax coda

here's where i admit rtc was right & i think this album is kind of disappointing on the whole

individual moments shine for me (esp "solid") but i think its mainly that the erm sexiness of beach house—the louche lothario has been replaced not so much by a scumbag but by someone going thru the motions in a way that gets no enjoyment from it

idk. im optimistic about beach house 3

i also think his EP with Wiz Khalifa this year was #actually pretty tight, even if it makes you feel like you're taking wiz khalifa's side in some domestic drama

wrong this album is a classic

i don't really want him to be sexy. his misogyny sorta has that z-ro style 'ho just leave me alone playing xbox by my lonesome' almost cozy vibe. also the album has, like, musical humor that complements lyrical humour in a great way; the background vocs on "Know Ya" (strookiiin')

i thought what jordan wrote about credit applies to most of the album actually, the songwriting stands alone. like "Straight up" is a how had no one phrased that verse melody before

an album doesnt really need every style and every guest kinda a weird approach some imo, def jams on there tho, at least one major turd too

the Kanye moment is a turd but such a quality lol that i listen to it every time

this album is almost entirely stylistically coherent, like remove track 2 and then everything up to blasé has ml the same vibe, at which pt it's refreshing to switch gears

literally an insane statement

i really don't think of this as an album that jumps around a lot stylistically, the classic soul samples tie it all together. even the metro boomin production sounds like temptations

you think LA , straight up, horses, know ya, credit, miracle/whenever, sittin pretty have v different styles?

need to go back to beach house but i do feel i have overplayed his joyless ogling somewhat, still not real sexi but occasionally capable of a kind of ironized pat-on-the-ass affectionate warmth

also lol i love 'saved', wild out to that shit every time

think d-40 has a deeper investment and sees an extra upper echelon to him than others perhaps, not criticising cos in some ways understandable but mainly cos of that i was more about addressing the expectation/disappointment matrix for an album that otherwise is p above average okay imo

never a classic though, flops be trippin

lol @ pay on the ass warmth

i don't remember beach house very vividly, should revis

revis the bea hou and reconsid your opin

ive prob over listened to this tbh, like when u can sing along to most of 'bring it out of me' :-/

lolll yeah that is doing way too much

still jel of that interaction compared with armchair pontificating tho tbf

also lol i love 'saved', wild out to that shit every time

i loved "saved" so much

still haven't really spent time with this record, looking at the tracklisting exhausts me

lost my headphones so ive been listened to music on my shitty laptop speakers for months. BUT the other day i put together my old hifi and first thing i played on it was 'horses in the stable'. shit sounded so good it was a quasi-religious experience. ty$ has a great attention to detail when it comes to sound design.

yeah his nerd side really comes out on this record, it's biggest strength imo

to be clear yeah i don't think this is a bad album by any stretch, just disappointing w/r/t what i hoped for

individual moments shine when taken out of context but it bugs me that when 'blase' comes on that i kind of check in, because i never even liked that song much in the first place

see that's where i check out

i listen to it front to back but the floplist for those unwilling to wade thru 19 songs or whatever it is would be like

la
straight up
solid
horses
know ya
credit
miracle
sittin pretty
finale

bonus tracks:
saved
blasé

there's 4 or 5 really good songs on it yeah

really tho if you just axe the songs w/ future, migos & travis scott you have a pretty solid record

def, that middle section w no features is good

'Stealin' is my jam

bassline on Pu$$Y slaps

New one is album of the year contender no?

Yes.

Incredible that he’s being outsold by big krit in 2017 though

not as good as free tc but it's good ya

Lacking some. of the highs of free tc but way better sequencing on this one

I think it’s better than free tc across the board idk

“Don’t sleep on me” and “stare” are eh but otherwise

Big Krit sales are all sales no streams though, ty will do well if streams pick up

yeah the more i listen to this the more i'm totally in love with it. the famous interludes are all really lovely and tie the whole thing together

"Message In A Bottle" yes

It is baffling to me how much I like recent Ty Dolla $ign stuff I've heard given how much I hated "My Cabana".

https://instagram.com/p/BfMPnqWF9WG/

Welp

Ego Death is such a weird trainwreck.

.@tydollasign's new album is called 'Featuring Ty Dolla $ign.' Brilliant.

OCTOBER 23. pic.twitter.com/WQFKodFNBV

— Complex Music (@ComplexMusic) October 14, 2020

he's a genius. looking forward to this, all of his albums are great.

https://i.imgur.com/vmIwEOi.jpg

ty$'s net worth is but a mere $1.5M, but the new MILLENNIUM aint over yet

amazing job improving an already spectacular song here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIxDnJ1TrGI
Brandy and Ty "No Tomorrow, Pt. 2"

free tc is still ultra-classic

featuring is really good

fuck big sean and kanye tho