ILM's 2014 End of Year Albums & Tracks Poll / VOTING THREAD

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Hey, silent majority here speaking: the process is fine, don't change it.

https://youtu.be/WpYeekQkAdc for Gaz Coombes (The Reverend), Wednesday, December 9, 2015 4:32 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^

also, a plea for less of this data entry/hoover consumption vibe when the poll actually happens

winnowing your favourites down is kind of the point above tallying, like, your 46th favourite track of the year just for the sake of it

lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 08:53 (eight years ago) link

yep, it's good how it is. i don't want to speak for everyone, but i certainly haven't heard anything close to 50+ outstanding records this year?

canoon fooder (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 10:32 (eight years ago) link

Agreed, I know a lot of you are are bigger music buffs than me, but how many of you really hear 50 great new albums a year? Personally, I can't imagine ever having the time to even delve into 50 current albums each year, let alone listening to so many current albums that I can pick 50 great ones among them.

For tracks, 50 seems like a decent number though. It makes no sense to have the same amount of slots for albums and tracks.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 10:45 (eight years ago) link

same amount of votes but more noms would be good - we should get at least as many noms as we have votes imo

gazcom (NickB), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 10:53 (eight years ago) link

exclude non-wizards imo

r|t|c, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 11:36 (eight years ago) link

Y'all remember that the last couple days of nominations are basically a bonus round, right? You start off with 30, so you nominate your stuff and perhaps other people nominate things you'd have liked to have nominated and, then, a day or two before nominations end, you come back and you're given the leeway to nominate things that are missing/things you've just heard and feel should be there/things you know no one besides you will vote for but it makes you happy to have them present.

I think there's more value in this method. It's like a second chance.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 13:20 (eight years ago) link

2015 nominations open on Friday btw

― a cruet of destiny, Monday, December 7, 2015 2:49 PM (4 days ago)

Is this still the plan? (Can't ask w/o ackowledging what a HUGE amount of work must go into tracking the nominations.)

fka styx (paul santa cruz), Friday, 11 December 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

i tried my best to influence change by suggesting positive improvements, very disappointed with the inadequate nominations process. No change, no improvements. It doesn't cater for the needs of multi-genre music listeners.

djmartian, Saturday, 12 December 2015 14:13 (eight years ago) link

I'm sorry you feel that way, but I don't have enough free time to keep up with as many nominations that would come in if the process had virtually no limits. I'd have to quit my job or not sleep or both. And as someone else mentioned, at what point does the nominations and voting process cross a line from things you really love and would like to see place into "things I heard and I thought were decent"? If you've got 30 nominations to split between tracks and albums, it's all going to be what you consider top shelf music.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 12 December 2015 14:27 (eight years ago) link

I got a list of about 40 noms right now (only albums, no tracks, and that doesn't even include metal as they're probably wasted noms). I understand the amount of work though, but I definitely would have liked a bit more room. I'm gonna wait for others to nominate the most popular stuff so I can cut my list down to 30.

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Saturday, 12 December 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link

There's usually an extra few at the death.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Saturday, 12 December 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link

Right. The last 48 hours or so, we dish out an additional 10 nominations to everybody in crunch time to make sure nothing was missed, forgotten or overlooked.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 12 December 2015 14:39 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I'll probably be fine in the end but I wonder what's the reasoning for not allowing the extra 10 right away? Seems to be less stressful and to give a chance to these 10 albums or tracks to be noticed before voting.

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Sunday, 13 December 2015 12:28 (eight years ago) link

I've found that in the rush to get your favorites nominated early in the process, you always forget something key and then hope someone else likes it as much as you did. Alternately, you may find something between now and January 2nd that you want to nominate and, whoops, all your nominations are gone! The 11th hour bonus is a safety net for several reasons.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 13 December 2015 14:03 (eight years ago) link

winnowing your favourites down is kind of the point above tallying, like, your 46th favourite track of the year just for the sake of it

― lex pretend, Wednesday, December 9, 2015 3:53 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^^^^

Shkreli, Martin & Wu (some dude), Sunday, 13 December 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link


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