Press release for TWTP presumably employing reverse psychology / 'negging' avant-heads.
The music itself, to the extent that one can dissociate it from the theory involved, is where things get a bit chancy. The themes tend to alternate between idyllic ruminations and rumbling, pulsating passages, each of which more than a bit reminiscent of the often overindulgent solo work of Keith Jarrett. The titles to the sections may impart an idea of the new age-y drift that sometimes occurs here. There's simply not a great deal of meat to it, as though Young expects that the sheer beauty of the tuning system is enough. Once one gets acclimated to it and accepts it as an alternative (and quite attractive) way to tune a piano, inevitably one comes back listening for deeper meaning and structure.
― Noel Emits, Monday, 21 December 2015 13:33 (eight years ago) link
And there's not much there. Indeed, there's more than a whiff of arrogance to the project
― Noel Emits, Monday, 21 December 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link
Can't these avant-heads take some time out and listen to Hindustani classical instead?
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 December 2015 13:44 (eight years ago) link
Hours of ragas at their fingertips. Fuck a velvet underground.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06ttrxp
― Noel Emits, Friday, 1 January 2016 23:15 (eight years ago) link
Just received the following from Norman Records:
We've just found out the La Monte Young LPs aren't being pressed. Initially the label received permission to press them from Gramavision but La Monte's lawyers stepped in and have stopped the records from being pressed. Here's what we received from the distributor: It is with regret, that these two important titles have now been cancelled. Whilst a provisional yes was received from the licensor, after a month of going through the relevant departments they have now been declined for the following reason…“Unfortunately your request has now been refused due to publishing issues. Apologies for any inconvenience caused”
It is with regret, that these two important titles have now been cancelled. Whilst a provisional yes was received from the licensor, after a month of going through the relevant departments they have now been declined for the following reason…
“Unfortunately your request has now been refused due to publishing issues. Apologies for any inconvenience caused”
There is also another one being advertised on a different label:
http://aguirrecords.com/Shop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=441
but I guess that one might end up being nixed as well.
― schlep and back trio (anagram), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 12:34 (eight years ago) link
Think Aguirre have legitimately acquired the rights to all the Shandar albs, not sure that La Monte can block that one so easily
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 12:38 (eight years ago) link
grrrr
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:07 (eight years ago) link
Genuinely don't get what Young's game is. Why does he want to keep his music off the market?
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link
perfectionism iirc
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:45 (eight years ago) link
I mean, from a sound quality perspective, I get it - vinyl blows. But from a getting-your-art-in-people's-hands/ears angle, he's fucking it all up.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:49 (eight years ago) link
I think he also sees himself as part of the 'art world' as much as the 'music world' and so believes his CDs/albums should be treated as 'art objects' - and priced accordingly. He's therefore always resisted overtures from record labels that want to issue his music as 'ordinary' albums for sale at 'ordinary' prices.
The cynical view is that so long as his music remains elusive and legendary, it will maintain a holy grail status that would evaporate, along w/ his exalted reputation, as soon as it becomes widely available. Having of course acquired most of his music from illegal sources, I don't share this view, and genuinely believe that a properly organised and promoted reissue program would only enhance his reputation.
But the simple truth is probably that he is a deeply deeply eccentric figure who operates on a different plain from us mere mortals - and that he can do whatever the fuck he wants to do.
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link
Dead? No? OK, can't be too careful these days.
― The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 16:41 (eight years ago) link
Twelve days left to "listen again" to TWTP on the BBC.
― Noel Emits, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link
impressive that a dude who's been high for like 60 years can be so business minded!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link
Thought this was what hippies were like.
So what's the story with TWTP being available on the BBC. Thought Young could stop it all.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:07 (eight years ago) link
i uploaded 'tamburas of pandit pran nath' to youtube and it got taken down based on LMY's request. honestly just wanted people to hear it...
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link
Er, yeah, I don't think a guy who's committed to a 33 hour sleep wake pattern gives a shit about what makes business sense.
― grant holt (prettylikealaindelon), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link
Never trust etc etc.
― The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link
what the hell is going on here, now it is back on?
http://brainwashed.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10781:la-monte-young-a-marian-zazeela-qdream-house-7817qq&catid=13:albums-and-singles&Itemid=133
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Monday, 22 February 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link
That one was never in doubt aiui, it was the Pure Pleasure ones that were nixed. As Ward noted upthread, Aguirre have the rights to 'Dream House'.
― schlep and back trio (anagram), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link
damn like $40 shipped. pricing to do the mela foundation proud.
― adam, Monday, 22 February 2016 18:08 (eight years ago) link
xp thanks, that makes much more sense
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link
and almost 40 minutes of music on each side of vinyl?
― tylerw, Monday, 22 February 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link
this needs to be on CD tho
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 22 February 2016 18:19 (eight years ago) link
agreed
Tyler, yes:
For the maximum fidelity on Side 2, reduce the treble controls on your pre-amplifier to minimum. Since the sine waves have no harmonic content, and all are below 202.5 Hertz, this will reduce the surface noise which is normal on most discs. Note: Be sure to keep the treble controls normal on Side 1.
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:19 (eight years ago) link
from Discogs review:
With each side being so long the fidelity was never going to be good on this record. Shandar pressings were a bit dodgy at the best of times. It doesn't really bother me but if you're a hi-fi nut or a cd fan craving absolute purity then don't get this record.
iow Whiney OTM
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
It comes with a download code - someone should buy it and if there's a WAV option available, slap together a bootleg CD version and sell it for like $5.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link
oh that's cool! I think I have this pre-ordered through Wall Of Sound, need to double check.
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link
Of course, the download code could just get you needle-drop MP3s, which would be one of the grand and glorious perverse gestures of all time.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 22 February 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link
or download code could be 128kbps mp3s. just ordered this but also have a sneaking suspicion i pre-orderd this somewhere too.
― stirmonster, Monday, 22 February 2016 18:34 (eight years ago) link
Has anybody seen/received a copy of the Aguirre reissue yet? Their website says that the release date was 24th Feb, but that the album is now out of stock (the simultaneous Reich reissue is still in stock) - I reserved a copy at my LRS, but they've not contacted me about it yet. Hmmm...
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 11:48 (eight years ago) link
yes, my copy arrived yesterday.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 12:02 (eight years ago) link
TY, good to know it actually exists...
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 12:13 (eight years ago) link
Heh, Monorail just rang me to say my copy has arrived.
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 16:18 (eight years ago) link
just got an email from FE confirming my order :)
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link
(I double bought this sucker from both FE and Wall Of Sound, would rather have two copies than zero)
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 16:20 (eight years ago) link
No wonder it's sold out at source :-)
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link
a thousand wasn't enough, for sure
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 9 March 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link
The Well-Tuned Piano has been reissued on DVD. $89 for the standard edition (admittedly, it comes with a 52-page booklet); $307 for a signed copy.
http://www.melafoundation.org/store.html
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DifeWj8VQAAiedv.jpg
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link
!!!
― sleeve, Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link
hey, so, they (La Monte Young and Marian Zazeela) need some money to keep the dreamhouse open. and the NYC arts community seems useless.
https://charity.gofundme.com/o/en/campaign/save-the-dream-house-keep-our-dream-alive/melafoundationincdreamhouse?utm_campaign=ocdonate&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=crowdrise&fbclid=IwAR2hA8LF6DemHCSsHy89tjsS5kIWc2EX2sXVedPEQgWxazr9qaK2_dXJz9w
― ian, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:22 (three years ago) link
Oh wow---how are any of those other CDs and DVDs?
― dow, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link
hey la monte, here's an idea, RELEASE THE FUCKING DREAM SYNDICATE TAPES. YOU'D PROBABLY BE GOOD
― flappy bird, Thursday, 16 July 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link
do u seriously think an artist could net $150K from *any* reissue campaign. sheesh. just donate or share.
― sleeve, Thursday, 16 July 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link
why not both
― budo jeru, Thursday, 16 July 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link
A reissue campaign could raise decent money. I sold my Well-Tuned Piano box for $600 back in 2011. There’s so much that isn’t available.
― Yelploaf, Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link
xp lol sorry, yes both
― sleeve, Thursday, 16 July 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link
How does that place not have a major grant by this point? I donated but it feels like some serious mismanagement that they aren't more stable.
― Fetchboy, Thursday, 16 July 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link
https://www.discogs.com/La-Monte-Young-Draw-A-Straight-Line-And-Follow-It/release/6290435https://www.discogs.com/La-Monte-Young-Draw-A-Straight-Line-And-Follow-It-II/release/9812249https://www.discogs.com/La-Monte-Young-Draw-A-Straight-Line-And-Follow-It-III/release/14667006https://www.discogs.com/La-Monte-Young-Draw-A-Straight-Line-Follow-It-IV/release/14667041
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link