there are actual moments of insight that are so thoroughly torpedoed by the music framework in which he places them that I almost feel like this song is required listening
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link
i got though 2.5 minutes of it
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link
yeah I couldn't make it through the whole thing
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link
it does honestly get better five minutes in, but those first five minutes are so hilariously terrible that I understand bailing
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link
"Sharp moments and awful phrasing + music" is essentially my critique.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link
this is longer than 5 minutes? jesus.
― hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link
those first five minutes!
lol xp
― eoy_saer (wins), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link
the macklemore song white privilege part two gets better after five minutes
― eoy_saer (wins), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link
did Ryan Lewis play piano on this, because he is not very good
― hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link
this thing is an overlong trainwreck but there's a minute and a half of it that I would say works well with the subject matter and how he delivers it; it's kind of a shame about the other 6 minutes and 30 seconds thouh
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
motivation here seems covering his own ass while throwing others under the bus
eh sort of, but I don't think the disses are particularly unjustified - he seems to be honestly grappling with what it means to be who/what he is (a white guy operating in a black subculture) and forthrightly portraying his confusion about how to deal with that, which is a topic that is generally not addressed in pop music and is surely something his (presumably largely white) audience is familiar with. It's more direct and insightful than anything that Iggy or Miley's ever said, that's for sure. But the execution is just godawful, it's so clumsy.
xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
maybe he put up this tutorial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU5ZE5QdZEo
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link
omg
― hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link
he does favor the black keys
― hi-nrg candidate (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link
I think the Accidental Racist comparison is apt because I have laughed this much at a serious song since first hearing Accidental Racist
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link
also I think that if you don't have a grasp on enharmonics, you should not be putting out music tutorials
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link
wait but that tutorial's only 3 1/2 minutes, how do I play the other 4 minutes of the song
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZWIlfwUgAA-VYb.png
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link
"not a terrible thinkpiece" --the most charitable review yet of macklemores new song
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link
what if i actually read an article
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link
when i was in third grade i thought i was a blogger because i had a tumblr
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link
i can't believe i'm still listening to this
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link
this song has its own website http://www.whiteprivilege2.com
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link
it's also hilarious that Macklermore's apparent reaction to stealing Kendrick's Grammy is to steal the more avant-garde patchwork style of some of Kendrick's recent album tracks for a song about white privilege
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link
omg what if this whole album is mackle trying to be kendrick
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link
I am not gonna lie, I would probably buy it
the belly lols would be so satisfying
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link
"As a company (Macklemore & Ryan Lewis LLC), we are committed to a long-term investment of our time, resources, finances and creative capacities towards supporting black-led organizing and anti-racist education & discourse.
We are engaging with four initial organizations and collectives whose work inspires and informs us: Black Lives Matter, People's Institute for Survival and Beyond, Youth Undoing Institutional Racism & Freedom School (a project of AFSC and The People's Institute), and Black Youth Project 100."
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
wld be beautiful if ppls hatred motivated him to sabotage his career
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link
well perhaps that song is the first step of the sabotage
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, January 22, 2016 1:20 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
To Mackle a Butterfly
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, January 22, 2016 12:58 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i don't know what enharmonics are but like lots of times it's just like you wanna know how to play a GnR riff or something not get a Ph.D. in harpsichord from the Little Lord Fauntleroy Academy of Music
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link
YUIR are a really awesome group here in Seattle. That's going to be my only comment here about this.
― The Reverend, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link
So is 'Downtown' Macklemore's attempt at 'King Kunta'?
― MarkoP, Friday, 22 January 2016 19:44 (eight years ago) link
do you understand that F# and G-flat are the same note?
when writing out a major D triad, would you write it as "D, F#, A" rather than "D, G-flat, A"?
congrats, you understand enharmonics
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link
Yes!
No! (but i don't read or music and so i guess there's no meaningful difference between what it's called it's just a fret on a string)...(actually now that i started playing in open tunings i don't know what any notes are really except the open strings)
i do now, i guess it sounded fancier than it was
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link
this is like piano 101 guys
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link
i play music from the gut not the piano you ascot wearin square
― Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link
― white privilege 2: the legend of clumsy scold (wins), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:12 (eight years ago) link
so does he mention his 3 un-deserved Grammys in this? i am not giving him the views/youtube sales by listening to this song. i have heard his music before, it is shit.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link
this is music theory in a nutshell
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link
yes lol
altho I am like m@tt in that playing guitar or keyboard I'm just like oh *that* note why does it have two names, which one is the right one? I don't care really
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link
all the black notes have to have two names
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link
isn't that kind of weird
I am not going further down this rabbit hole I swear
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link
(actually now that i started playing in open tunings i don't know what any notes are really except the open strings)
also m@tt just get a clip-on/snark tuner and it will always tell you what note you're playing (which I've found is v convenient to communicating w other players when using non-standard guitar tunings)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link
this is a more interesting conversation than one based upon "White Privilege II", y/n
― The Reverend, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link
trick question, they're both awful
ok i just read the lyrics. he doesn't mention the Grammy awards at all. this guy refuses to acknowledge his own privilege.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link
wait til white privilege 3
― lag∞n, Friday, 22 January 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link
White Privilege 3: Dream Warriors
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link