Who's the Main Man : Bowie, Iggy or Lou ?

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Probably Iggy, he causes the least indigestion (though I steer clear of a lot of his solo stuff, so maybe thats why)

the drummer for Gaz Dad (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:12 (eight years ago) link

Bowie never did a car insurance advert. (Or did he?)

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:13 (eight years ago) link

I've tried and tried with the velvets but I don't think at this stage they'll ever click as an important band for me. I appreciate them rather than enjoy them.

canoon fooder (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:14 (eight years ago) link

Lou (3)
Iggy (4)
Bowie (5)

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:14 (eight years ago) link

Bowie, no contest.

she pnuched me in my weinre when I was asleep (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:17 (eight years ago) link

Bowie never did a car insurance advert. (Or did he?)

pretty sure he took over as the voice of chrchill the dog after vic reeves gave up the gig

Butt here is always time for the John Mayer Trio or Sting. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link

One of the things they have in common for me is that I don't really care about their careers since the end of the 70s/early 80s (more than 30 years for all of them and Iggy's still going strong !).

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link

I've tried and tried with the velvets but I don't think at this stage they'll ever click as an important band for me. I appreciate them rather than enjoy them.

oh ok, in that case, easy indeed !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link

who had the best post-80s career? (i'd go with bowie based on his stuff from 2000 to now alone, but i'm sure many lou reed fans would disagree)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link

Easy one for me. Lou by a country mile.

The other two are great but Lou is the greatest.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:30 (eight years ago) link

Lou for me too. I would probably have rather had a conversation with either of the other two, but as far as the work it's him.

Hang Onto Your Selfie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:34 (eight years ago) link

I think although I like many more of Bowie songs, some of Lou's songs touch me more, in a deeper way (mostly with VU but not only).

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:37 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that exactly.

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:37 (eight years ago) link

The head says Bowie, the heart says Lou.

The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:38 (eight years ago) link

and the one who rocks harder ?
between Lou and Iggy but I'd go with Iggy for "Search & Destroy" alone (although Lou rocked hard too) !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link

Rob Thomas by miles.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:40 (eight years ago) link

(xp) the easiest choice of all for that question, Iggy.

The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:41 (eight years ago) link

Bowie never did a car insurance advert. (Or did he?)

― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:13 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He did a Pepsi ad in the 80s, and a couple of others since then.

But Lou did this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDLAM48TmJQ

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link

All I really need of Bowie: Low, "Heroes", Stage, The Next Day, Blackstar.
All I really need of Reed: Metal Machine Music, Rock 'n' Roll Animal, The Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts.
All I really need of Iggy: The Stooges, Fun House, 1970: The Complete Fun House Sessions, Raw Power, Lust for Life, The Idiot, TV Eye: 1977 Live, New Values, Soldier, Party, Blah-Blah-Blah, Instinct.

So...Bowie's the only one who's done anything I love in the last 30 years, but I still gotta vote for Iggy because Fun House might be the single greatest rock album ever, and seeing the Stooges (plus Mike Watt, but with Steve Mackay) in 2003 was genuinely life-changing.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:46 (eight years ago) link

There are no losers here

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:55 (eight years ago) link

hang on to yourselves!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdjF-1zcK4s

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 15:57 (eight years ago) link

well, if we're going to look for the most ridiculous/awful thing any of these guys has been involved in...

https://500daysasunder.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/screen-shot-2013-01-24-at-4-03-50-pm.png

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link

B-b-but what about some of those latter day Lou harmony duets?

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link

Oh yeah, there was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBd4SuDNsGQ

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:13 (eight years ago) link

god that is incredible

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:21 (eight years ago) link

love all these guys, there's no wrong answers, but off the cuff I'm inclined to say Lou>>Bowie>>Iggy, just cuz Lou was first and is arguably the more archetypal and emotionally engaging (and ultimately kind of tragic, I think) figure

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link

like Bowie and Iggy both seem to have found some measure of peace, Lou seemed tortured and bitter and cranky to the end

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:24 (eight years ago) link

Shakey otm

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link

Despite all the Tai Chi master silkscreen.

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link

yeah, lou was like the least chill zen-minded individual ever

Butt here is always time for the John Mayer Trio or Sting. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link

god the iggy i have no use for i have no for to an extent that nothing in the lou or bowie catalogs can dream of approaching. that said when bowie passed i found myself listening to the idiot over and over more than any actual bowie albums. brain says lou, heart says iggy. voting lou, maybe if iggy had played guitar for the stooges...

balls, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link

really glad you guys *know* people just by following em in the media

xp

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link

Lou seemed tortured and bitter and cranky to the end

Really?

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

otoh i was gonna say 'this is like modern lovers vs new romantics vs...' but i couldn't find an inheritor to the stooges that i felt comfortable actually comparing to the stooges

balls, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:35 (eight years ago) link

Lou for me, but I can understand arguments for all three.

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:35 (eight years ago) link

really glad you guys *know* people just by following em in the media

xp


Just looking where the light is, my friend.

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:36 (eight years ago) link

Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at right

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link

best album from them : I might go with VU&Nico or VU for Lou, Stooges or Raw Power for Iggy and Ziggy or Station2Station for Bowie, I guess.
Lou wins.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link

really glad you guys *know* people just by following em in the media

true, we should all just pay attention to dennis perrin's twitter instead

Butt here is always time for the John Mayer Trio or Sting. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link

I don't really care about Lou or Iggy

The Once-ler, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link

this thread makes me want to know more about Lou's output in the 80s.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:43 (eight years ago) link

I'll give a try at "Blue Mask" and "New York"...

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

The Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts, and New Sensations are wonderful records, superior to anything Bowie and Iggy released in that period.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

Blah Blah Blah is not terrible though.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

Anyone defend Brick by Brick? It got lots of boomer praise for its "mature" songs and boomer career revivalist Don Was' production. Guess Iggy benefited from nostalgia as much as the Stones, Dylan, Young, etc.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link

Ugh

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

superior to anything Bowie and Iggy released in that period.

that's not saying much, is it !
but yeah, apparently, they're quite good.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

Really?

his last album was a grim, rage-filled contrarian "fuck you" move (ie, standard operating Lou procedure) so yeah

I'll give a try at "Blue Mask" and "New York"...

Blue Mask is good, the last one I would recommend unreservedly (Alfred and I differ on this point). New York is fun for the first couple of songs and then becomes something of a po'-faced slog.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

Blah Blah Blah is not terrible though.

No, but the production is arguably the worst of anything any of those artists put out in the 80s.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link

yeah disagree w/ everything in that post except iggy vs. rotten (i'll take metal box/second edition over anything iggy did after funhouse).

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 28 January 2016 17:57 (eight years ago) link

Sister Ray > Station to Station >>> Dirt
― simmel, Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:56 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post

Credit where it's due: this is a rad top-3 & I would probably get along with you based on that fact alone

regular ass terrestrial radio (bernard snowy), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link

Sister Ray is super overrated. I imagine many garage bands in the 60s were capable bashing out 30-minute drone jams. They just didn't get put to tape.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link

^^^

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link

Thurston Moore has said in an interview or essay somewhere that he's more a Raw Power guy than a Funhouse guy. It was apparently the first Iggy he heard, being sold by the Mick Rock cover photo.

Hey, it's my old mate Thurston! RP was the first Stooges album I heard, in fact it was years before I heard Funhouse, by which time I'd already heard the first album and several Iggy solo albums, LOL the olden days.

The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link

Sister Ray is super overrated. I imagine many garage bands in the 60s were capable bashing out 30-minute drone jams. They just didn't get put to tape.

We have a possible new contender for wrongest statement of 2016. Like just anyone could pull off the sounds Reed and Cale are producing on this track!

The Return of the Thin White Pope (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

Or Tucker. Or Morrison.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:46 (eight years ago) link

The VU would be my #1 contender for that "things you admire but don't like" thread, if I could say I admired them. The best I can offer is that I recognize and concede the breadth of their influence, while believing that literally everything that's come in their wake, down to the most half-assed Jesus & Mary Chain B-side, is better than their own work.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

^^^newer contender for wrongest statement of 2016

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 January 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

otm

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 January 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link

Kind of my introduction to all three way back when...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPvWoEiaEqU

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 January 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

loved that doc, taped all 10 episodes and watched them over and over again. That one and the funk one were totally revelatory to me.

intheblanks, Friday, 29 January 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link

Voting for Bowie - I return to his music every 8-10 years and always discover something new. My VU/Lou Reed phase was kind of a one shot in college. I still haven't heard a lot of Iggy's solo albums.

Darin, Saturday, 30 January 2016 00:43 (eight years ago) link

Also, I've been thinking a best Bowie guitarist poll would be fun. Trying to think of them all: Ronson, Slick, Fripp, Alomar, Frampton, Gabrels, SRV, Belew, Nile Rogers, Bowie himself... who else?

Darin, Saturday, 30 January 2016 00:51 (eight years ago) link

Sorry - I meant to put this on the Bowie thread.

Darin, Saturday, 30 January 2016 00:51 (eight years ago) link

Wow, that "Soul Man" video with Lou/Sam Moore was something else. I turned it off when the old granny was singing with the black mic.

van smack, Saturday, 30 January 2016 04:25 (eight years ago) link

Bowie - Iggy --- Lou

van smack, Saturday, 30 January 2016 04:26 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 7 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

The capper is surely Reed’s audible contempt as he consigns the consensus world’s best rock and roll band to idiot fodder: “I never liked the Beatles. ... I thought they were garbage. If you say, ‘Who did you like?’ I liked nobody.”

Lou wins.

The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Sunday, 7 February 2016 12:44 (eight years ago) link

You should have quoted the paragraph above as well.

The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 7 February 2016 13:09 (eight years ago) link

Saw this in the window of a store yesterday, almost bought it:
http://www.nostalgicimages.com/store/images/products/large_1097_406.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 February 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

Balls.

The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2016 00:18 (eight years ago) link

Lol wat

Οὖτις, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:23 (eight years ago) link

If only Iggy was dead.

The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2016 00:24 (eight years ago) link

Bite yr tongue

Οὖτις, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:22 (eight years ago) link

ha ha well we can put this one to bed

Darin, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:25 (eight years ago) link

Nonsense

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:28 (eight years ago) link

i didn't vote because i couldn't decide

the late great, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:35 (eight years ago) link

I'm is correct once again

Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:53 (eight years ago) link

Lol stupid phone lol

Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:54 (eight years ago) link

ILM is correct

Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:55 (eight years ago) link

You fools! Iggy is the main man.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2016 05:51 (eight years ago) link

Anyhoo poll reminded me of this recently released recording of Bowie doing impersonations of several musicians: Bolan, Lou and Iggy among them. His Lou and Iggy are spot on:

http://youtu.be/NrtXFTw2ico

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2016 06:04 (eight years ago) link

69...

Pentenema Karten, Monday, 8 February 2016 06:46 (eight years ago) link

xxxposts

I didn't vote either !
I guess I should have voted Lou.
Maybe the poll was a bit biased because of the timing regarding Bowie but I suppose he has a broader appeal, anyway.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 8 February 2016 09:32 (eight years ago) link

It does say http://www.bowiegoldenyears.com/graphics/mainman125.gif

Now, if it was "The Man"...

Mark G, Monday, 8 February 2016 10:21 (eight years ago) link

Yeah this poll should have been done after Lou died.

Hadrian VIII, Monday, 8 February 2016 11:51 (eight years ago) link

Any artist who disrespects another artist by calling their music crap is a complete asshole, I picked up Lou Reed when I was a driving a cab in 1973, told him I was a big fan and he was an incredible nasty prick. Then gave a 10 cent tip, which I threw at him and hit him in the back of his head. he just kept walking away

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LOL, Lou wins again.

The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2016 12:48 (eight years ago) link

ahah. classic !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 8 February 2016 13:08 (eight years ago) link

Wait, where is that from?

The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 February 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link

Facebook.

The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link

Thought you told me you didn't do

The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 February 2016 16:06 (eight years ago) link


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