Who's the Main Man : Bowie, Iggy or Lou ?

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yeah, lou was like the least chill zen-minded individual ever

Butt here is always time for the John Mayer Trio or Sting. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link

god the iggy i have no use for i have no for to an extent that nothing in the lou or bowie catalogs can dream of approaching. that said when bowie passed i found myself listening to the idiot over and over more than any actual bowie albums. brain says lou, heart says iggy. voting lou, maybe if iggy had played guitar for the stooges...

balls, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link

really glad you guys *know* people just by following em in the media

xp

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link

Lou seemed tortured and bitter and cranky to the end

Really?

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

otoh i was gonna say 'this is like modern lovers vs new romantics vs...' but i couldn't find an inheritor to the stooges that i felt comfortable actually comparing to the stooges

balls, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:35 (eight years ago) link

Lou for me, but I can understand arguments for all three.

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:35 (eight years ago) link

really glad you guys *know* people just by following em in the media

xp


Just looking where the light is, my friend.

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:36 (eight years ago) link

Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at right

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link

best album from them : I might go with VU&Nico or VU for Lou, Stooges or Raw Power for Iggy and Ziggy or Station2Station for Bowie, I guess.
Lou wins.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link

really glad you guys *know* people just by following em in the media

true, we should all just pay attention to dennis perrin's twitter instead

Butt here is always time for the John Mayer Trio or Sting. (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link

I don't really care about Lou or Iggy

The Once-ler, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link

this thread makes me want to know more about Lou's output in the 80s.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:43 (eight years ago) link

I'll give a try at "Blue Mask" and "New York"...

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

The Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts, and New Sensations are wonderful records, superior to anything Bowie and Iggy released in that period.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

Blah Blah Blah is not terrible though.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link

Anyone defend Brick by Brick? It got lots of boomer praise for its "mature" songs and boomer career revivalist Don Was' production. Guess Iggy benefited from nostalgia as much as the Stones, Dylan, Young, etc.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link

Ugh

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

superior to anything Bowie and Iggy released in that period.

that's not saying much, is it !
but yeah, apparently, they're quite good.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

Really?

his last album was a grim, rage-filled contrarian "fuck you" move (ie, standard operating Lou procedure) so yeah

I'll give a try at "Blue Mask" and "New York"...

Blue Mask is good, the last one I would recommend unreservedly (Alfred and I differ on this point). New York is fun for the first couple of songs and then becomes something of a po'-faced slog.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

Blah Blah Blah is not terrible though.

No, but the production is arguably the worst of anything any of those artists put out in the 80s.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link

Like one or two tunes on BxB but can't stand the production.

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link

"New York" is kind of an outlier in Lou's catalog in that every single song has the same sound/instrumental setup. The lack of variation is both unusual and (after awhile) grating.

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link

B-b-but what about Rock and Roll Animal?

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link

Magic and Loss is much more samey-sounding than New York

Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:50 (eight years ago) link

No, but the production is arguably the worst of anything any of those artists put out in the 80s.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat),No, but the production is arguably the worst of anything any of those artists put out in the 80s.

Bowie's production suits "Shades" and a couple others more than it would on, say, NLMD.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:50 (eight years ago) link

B-b-but what about Rock and Roll Animal?

well okay sure but that's a live album, guess I should've specified studio albums (fwiw I don't really like RnR Animal at all)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link

"New York" is kind of an outlier in Lou's catalog in that every single song has the same sound/instrumental setup.
YOU CAN'T BEAT TWO GUITARS, BASS, AND DRUMS

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link

lol just came across this john mellencamp quote in re: to Lou's New York: "Yeah, it sounds like it was produced by an eighth-grader, but I like it."

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link

hahaha

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link

xposts
thanks for the recommendations !
I'll start with Blue mask, then.
As for Iggy, nothing seems worthwhile after idiot/lust for life...

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link

http://www.toorex.com/_/rsrc/1442393593822/news-page/marc_bolan.jpg?height=356&width=400

write-in for the real MAIN MAN

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link

The Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts, and New Sensations are wonderful records, superior to anything Bowie and Iggy released in that period.

agree 100%-and that's without mentioning Quine on the first 2.

campreverb, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link

ahah, yeah, I thought about him (since he's on Iggy's t-shirt in the picture) !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link

/"New York" is kind of an outlier in Lou's catalog in that every single song has the same sound/instrumental setup./
YOU CAN'T BEAT TWO GUITARS, BASS, AND DRUMS

Some folks don't understand it
That's why they don't demand it

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link

& tbh i love the overall sound of New York, just nicely recorded, crisp sounds, doesn't sound terribly dated. that eighth grader had skillz.

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:02 (eight years ago) link

Still wish he had gone back to get his GED

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link

The Blue Mask and LH bombed. Wonder if they would have performed better at the height of boomer revivalism several years later.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:07 (eight years ago) link

he was never exactly a steady hitmaker! 'dirty blvd' benefited alot from the emergence of modern rock radio

balls, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:10 (eight years ago) link

Always thought it was deeply weird that that's Dion singing backup on Dirty Blvd, but in the video that part is lip-synced by an old black guy (iirc)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:13 (eight years ago) link

we should all just pay attention to dennis perrin's twitter instead

his 'dressing up as Bowie in high school' blog post was pretty good.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link

is there an album that has all three together? feels like as much as they all collaborated there should be....

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link

Re-run the thread when Iggy pops his cloggs as 4th option.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link

they're all only a couple degrees removed from one another (thx to Cale and Eno), but no

xp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link

"The Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts, and New Sensations are wonderful records, superior to anything Bowie and Iggy released in that period.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:45 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

"Legendary Hearts" is hell of underrated, ha I ignored it for a long time cuz of the dumb album cover

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link

and well duh Bowie worked w both obviously

xxp

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link

is there an album that has all three together? feels like as much as they all collaborated there should be....

I don't think there's an album but maybe a song ?

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link

or at least a session/demo/outtake whatever.

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:23 (eight years ago) link

12" version of 'hands across america' maybe

balls, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link

i could be wrong, but i don't think Lou really liked Iggy -- did they become buddies in the latter days?

tylerw, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link

"The Blue Mask, Legendary Hearts, and New Sensations are wonderful records, superior to anything Bowie and Iggy released in that period.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:45 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

"Legendary Hearts" is hell of underrated, ha I ignored it for a long time cuz of the dumb album cover


Yes, LH my favorite from that period. Neither too gut-wrenching nor too regular guy Lou.

Look at that Pavement POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link

I'm is correct once again

Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:53 (eight years ago) link

Lol stupid phone lol

Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:54 (eight years ago) link

ILM is correct

Bee OK, Monday, 8 February 2016 01:55 (eight years ago) link

You fools! Iggy is the main man.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2016 05:51 (eight years ago) link

Anyhoo poll reminded me of this recently released recording of Bowie doing impersonations of several musicians: Bolan, Lou and Iggy among them. His Lou and Iggy are spot on:

http://youtu.be/NrtXFTw2ico

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2016 06:04 (eight years ago) link

69...

Pentenema Karten, Monday, 8 February 2016 06:46 (eight years ago) link

xxxposts

I didn't vote either !
I guess I should have voted Lou.
Maybe the poll was a bit biased because of the timing regarding Bowie but I suppose he has a broader appeal, anyway.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 8 February 2016 09:32 (eight years ago) link

It does say http://www.bowiegoldenyears.com/graphics/mainman125.gif

Now, if it was "The Man"...

Mark G, Monday, 8 February 2016 10:21 (eight years ago) link

Yeah this poll should have been done after Lou died.

Hadrian VIII, Monday, 8 February 2016 11:51 (eight years ago) link

Any artist who disrespects another artist by calling their music crap is a complete asshole, I picked up Lou Reed when I was a driving a cab in 1973, told him I was a big fan and he was an incredible nasty prick. Then gave a 10 cent tip, which I threw at him and hit him in the back of his head. he just kept walking away

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LOL, Lou wins again.

The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2016 12:48 (eight years ago) link

ahah. classic !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 8 February 2016 13:08 (eight years ago) link

Wait, where is that from?

The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 February 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link

Facebook.

The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link

Thought you told me you didn't do

The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 February 2016 16:06 (eight years ago) link


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