"Oldchella"

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Y'all should do your folks a solid and score them some fresh weed for this thing. Don't just let them settle for those joints they've been hiding from you since '71. Come on. These are the people who raised you

Neil still torches 90% of the rock bands that okay Coachella, plus Coachella is alreadyin the nostalgia biz with LCD and shit like that every year

Neil is seriously the only septuagenarian of the bunch I'd actually care to see.

otm Neil still delivers live and is comparatively really unpredictable next to these other dorks

plz tell me Michael Caine will be spinning ambient in the electronica tent

really really want the stones set to include a hologram brian jones, and the dylan set to include a hologram traveling wilburys.

Hologram Will.I.Am as an completely unneccessary hype man throughout every set.

rumor has it that McCartney's set will feature a 40-minute version of "Cut Me Some Slack"

otm Neil still delivers live and is comparatively really unpredictable next to these other dorks

― Οὖτις, Monday, May 2, 2016 1:15 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dylan might be a lot of things but he's not predictable, they p much change the arrangements of the songs every night. it took me like a verse to realize i was hearing tangled up in blue last time i saw him

thought his setlists/arrangements had become more uniform in recent tours...? idk I've never seen him

Isn't Neil the only one of the bunch to as yet even release an enigmatic announcement that he is on board with this?

Needs a reunion set by Pavement

No, Daltrey basically spilled the beans on the whole thing, but no one listens to Daltrey, so press reports are still saying "no confirmation on this yet!"

xp

Everyone has released an enigmatic online trailer/announcement except Neil.

his trailer is only available on #pono

Well, yeah.

All-star cover of "Creep" will close out the weekend.

obligatory
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corpsechella

can't wait until these guys die so ilx can like them again

Not sure any of us have a problem with any of these acts. I'm not even sure the presence of the shows on the schedule will pop out as anything out of the ordinary to any of the acts other than maybe Mick. I think it's the craven, so obvious and tedious cash-grab aspects that are gross. They should call it the Old Money festival.

i dunno, i bet that this'll be cheaper than going to see all of these acts separately? still won't be cheap, but hey ...
surprised that dead & co. aren't on here. maybe they'll be a last minute addition.

Predicting the price is a good issue. I bet compared to what they charge on their own it'll be a bargain. These fests deal in volume.

The way I see it, is that you may as well go and see these acts while you still can.

this is going to make so much fucking money

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What's a cash grab and what's a festival? Who decides

I don't think determining whether it's a good idea, in the scope of what the thread is addressing, is about whether this will be profitable or well-run. This company tends to do a decent job of running festivals, and sure, it'll make money.

This is definitely a case of giving people what they want. But I really don't think I'd want to hang out with the people that want this.

Grabbing the top critical/financial successes of a narrow set of years that's 100% white rock dudes is so high concept that this transcends being a cynical ploy. It's like replacing the pitcher on a baseball team with a pitching machine that just spits the ball directly into the center of the strike zone at a low speed.

what gives me the willies is that the subtext is basically "SEE THEM BEFORE THEY DIE"

Most of these acts have sold out baseball stadiums in my city in the past few years.

― ... (Eazy), Monday, May 2, 2016 1:43 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was gonna say, tickets for McCartney for his first appearance in Cleveland since 2002 went on sale on Monday, and he sold out Quicken Loans Arena (20,000+ seating) so fast that they added a second show within an hour.

otm, it transcends the ideas of cash grabs and festivals

and tbh aside from Bob and Neil i haven't seen any of them live so this would be a way to cross a few names off my concert bucket list that i was starting to think i never would, so i'd go if i was able.

― some dude, Monday, May 2, 2016 12:20 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I second this except that I've never seen any of these folks live. Man, if you've got the time and money, GO!

for some reason I'm having a flashback to an article in the local paper over the weekend about confused concertgoers showing up at the wrong time

it was a multi-show weekend where they added additional shows to match ticket sales. initially there was only an announced saturday show, then they added friday, and then a couple additional dates

a bunch of people showed up on saturday only to be told they missed their concert as they had tickets for friday. people insisted they bought tickets for the concert they showed up for. the purchasing website had the right date. the email confirmation had the right date. the tickets they'd printed and showed up with had the right date. they showed up on the wrong date.

however, the venue _anticipated this would happen_ and had set aside an entire area for people who showed up to the wrong concert night

I can only imagine what will happen at this festival

man mh I think you underestimate how much people like to make a lot of money

I know, like, who am I to talk, but wouldn't it be cool if at least a sizeable portion of the surely mind-boggling proceeds from this festival held by multi-millionaires who (let's be honest) probably don't have that much longer to enjoy their multi-millions went to a charity of some sort?

Think of their kids!!!!

Their AARP-age kids!!!!!!!!

(Or whatever the British equivalent of the AARP is for some of them, I guess.)

This is definitely a case of giving people what they want. But I really don't think I'd want to hang out with the people that want this.

Grabbing the top critical/financial successes of a narrow set of years that's 100% white rock dudes is so high concept that this transcends being a cynical ploy. It's like replacing the pitcher on a baseball team with a pitching machine that just spits the ball directly into the center of the strike zone at a low speed.

This is exactly how I feel about this. (Well, this plus total loathing for Paul McCartney.)

What's to loathe?

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Now that you bring it up, I would totally fly out there for a Genesis reunion:
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when did I ever underestimate the love of money?

like this isn't a cash grab, this is someone laying in bed at night after devising cash grab schemes all day thinking "what if I just... took all the cash at once?"

i so want to go to this!

under 100 miles away, i just might.

Ok so literally any show done with a professional promoter and venue, basically any show that's not like pass the hat basement punk or a benefit is done to make money why is this particular show being held to some weird standard?

i'd ask the music publications that create "best albums/artists ever" lists, year after year, and have put these artists on them for decades!

searched google for "rolling stone best artists"

numbers 4, 2, and 1 were: the rolling stones, bob dylan, and the beatles. they booked the first two, and got the only touring member of the third

the high concept is literally "can we book the most popular/best artists ever"

i mean...festival promoters are always trying to come up with the best festival lineup they possibly can, and for a certain kind of consumer, these guys succeeded. that's...bad?

It would be awesome of this line-up was McCartney, Dylan, Stones, Neil, Waters, Who and Tool.

Waters, the only one of these I haven't seen, is easily odd man out imo. I would have subbed The Dead (obv) and shuffled the "openers." Then again, I also would have done crazy things like suggest that we not limit this thing to white/male/"rock" artists.

My festival...
Thu: Dylan -> Joni (ok, she's never performing again, fine; Lucinda and/or Los Lobos -> Bruce, maybe) -> Neil
Fri or Sat: Sleater-Kinney or Courtney Barnett -> PJ Harvey -> The Who -> Chuck Berry mini-set (ok, he's never performing again; Jerry Lee, maybe) -> Buddy Guy and guests (Clapton) -> The Stones
Fri or Sat: Vampire Weekend -> Paul Simon and friends (and/or Randy Newman with orchestra) -> Brian Wilson -> Stevie Wonder -> Macca
Sun: Aretha with Steve Cropper, Booker T, etc. -> Van Morrison -> this Santana/Shorter/Hancock "Mega Nova" thing -> The Dead

no Art Garfunkel no credibility

as a card-carrying baby boomer born in the late 50s - not an AARP card mind you - this does not appeal and not only because I saw the Who in 1975 etc etc

I've seen all of them except Macca and The Who, and Neil was by far the best. The Stones were fantastic during the first and last 20mins of their set and slumped into interminable soloing drag and dodgy new songs in the middle.

where are you from ecuador?

Eh Ireland... the Ecuador Three was the brand name of an awful tent I owned that became an in-joke among my friends and then a name I put on some music.

Yes, that was a good Roskilde - me and my friends had gone to Glastonbury a couple of times before that but wanted somewhere warmer and drier. It was great fun booing Axl Rose when he came out an hour late too. Bob Dylan was the same Roskilde. I don't remember any speechifying from Waters tbh.

The year after we decided to go smaller and ended up in France for the two day Garden Nef Party which was about 60 euro including camping which was a great price for a host of bands that are sure to feature in Oldchella in 30 years time (plus some lousy blog rock):

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The funny thing was the locals in that part of France didn't care for Arcade Fire at all, but were amazed that a band as famous as Muse would play their little town.

just letting Eazy know i'm stealing his DJ Gene Hackman line

really, i think Beatty & Hoffman should revive their Ishtar duo for this.

the strokes in 2016 are a nostalgia band p much

well yeah

way xxpost – The bald Phil Collins impersonator who played in the Musical Box left to start his own Phil tribute; and he was the singer in Daryl Stuermer's touring band, speaking of weird cash grabs.

thanking you

thanking you again

Wait so the fake Phil Collins left fake Genesis to have a fake solo career? That is the greatest.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/may/12/desert-trip-festival-sells-out-rolling-stones-paul-mccartney-roger-waters-bob-dylan-the-who-neil-young

Billboard estimates the gross revenues from ticket sales at $150m (£104m). Last year’s highest grossing festival was Coachella – run by the same people who are putting on Desert Trip, on the same site near Palm Springs, California – which made $84.26m over two weekends, according to Forbes. Desert Trip would be, comfortably, the highest-grossing event in music history.
As well as ticket sales, the organisers will be making money from ancillary activities such as selling licenses for catering and luxury camping. Desert Trip promises “over 30 culinary masterminds” providing food, as well as assorted catering packages starting at $129 per person per day.
Desert Trip, with its likely appeal to a prosperous audience of baby boomers, has charged premium prices. The 35,000 reserved seats for each weekend sold for between $699 and $1,599, while general admission was $399. The last tickets to sell out were the $199 day passes.

Bet it will also be on HBO or YouTube or somewhere, licensed for a ton.

with $150 mil could they build a giant retractable air con dome over Coachella? that would rule

Holy shit @ the $$$ from tickets

Holy shit at selling out so fast. I thought they were dreaming that they could get Coachella type attendance numbers for this.

So many old rich boomers in l.a. of course it sold out

lol that the last seats to sell were the cheapest tickets.

Well, one day at $199 vs 3 days at $399, so really the weekend tickets were cheaper. Also, are we sure only boomers are buying these? I'll bet there's a good selection of 20-somethings in the mix.

the lines at the catering tents are going to be so miserable

Neil still torches 90% of the rock bands that okay Coachella, plus Coachella is alreadyin the nostalgia biz with LCD and shit like that every year

― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

LCD Soundsystem is an American rock band from Brooklyn, New York, formed in 2002.

exactly

most years of coachella, back to the beginning, had a "reunion show" or semi-retro act in one of the headliner slots

most music festivals buffer their ticket sales in some way, but they really built on that formula. smaller ones in the midwest that are supposed to be "indie" or w/e end up having a jam band headliner or afternoon heavy with that shit because jam band ppl will indiscriminately go to anything with jam bands

On another note, I still have nightmares about the dude I talked to at coachella who was like, "yeah, Prince is pretty cool, not really my thing, but..." who then proceeded to wax philosophically about Jack Johnson and how cool his set was for about five minutes

The guy from LCD Soundsystem has more gray hair than anyone from Oldchella

I wonder how much the person who is paid to iron the acts before they go onstage is getting?

yeah nothing nostalgic about LCD who definitely sound nothing like the Talking Heads. "indie" ppl definitely won't "indiscriminately" go to anything with "indie" bands, and no "jambands" are "independent" or anything. festival-goers in general won't "indiscriminately" go to these package-deal festivals with often-competing acts playing typically-abbreviated sets in often-unideal conditions without examining whether the price (before lodging, etc.) is less or more than they'd pay for the acts individually. however overpriced or not, though (i fortunately or otherwise got shut out and don't patronize secondary markets), the oldchella tickets aren't substantially more expensive than those for coachella (which was $379 GA, $835 VIP this year) or most other major festivals, they were definitely bought by a healthy number of young people both for themselves and for family trips, and the cheapest (3-day) tickets were the first to sell, not the last.

"most years" of coachella have not "had a 'reunion show' or semi-retro act in one of the headliner slots" - that's only been true of 5-6 of 17 festivals. the first 8 iterations were straightforward "alternative rock" festivals on the lollapalooza model, albeit with a greater penchant for Euro(/pop?) acts. there then followed a few years in which a confluence of factors - bigger budgets, package deals with the parent company's touring division, and rising competition from other major festivals like decidedly non-"alternative" Bonnaroo - led to the booking of less "alternative"-identified and often older "classic-rock" or for lack of a better word "bro" (which may misdescribe the gender balance of their audience) headliners like Waters and Jack Johnson (and Prince) in '08, Macca (and perhaps The Killers) in '09, The Who (replaced by Jay-Z pre-announcement) in '10, Kings of Leon in '11, and perhaps Black Sabbath (replaced by Dre and Snoop pre-announcement) in '12. but the Coachella people were also capturing additional revenues by following the segmentation by taste and age of the market, spinning off Stagecoach in 2007, hosting the Phish festival in '09 and the Big 4 in '11, and planning from 2012 for non-Coachella festivals including this one in obtaining additional land and permits in Indio and elsewhere (a site in Orange County that's never really gotten off the ground, and the recent deal for Rose Bowl access that looks like it will lead to a new festival next June). simultaneously, the festival was establishing itself as a brand that could sell independent of the lineup, with 2010's attendance record followed by 2011's first-time sellout in less than a week (a week, lol), and the lineup accordingly got smaller-time and somewhat indier or at least newer at the top. my suspicion is that they could have booked any of the Oldchella acts at Coachellas (or Stagecoaches) between then and now, like when they semi-publicly negotiated with the Stones in what i'm not sure wasn't kabuki theatre for 2013, but held off with the intention to produce something of this sort because they didn't have to book any of those acts to sell out an increasingly young- (and less male-)skewing festival that wants to see relative contemporaries like Drake and Calvin Harris, who are going to sell to that audience for much longer, or so their people hope. even the older/reunion headliners they've booked since - AC/DC, GNR, Outkast, the Stone Roses - are relatively young (and as much or more 'hard' or 'alt' than 'classic") compared to these guys; it's Gen Xers and late boomers who are now the old folks. maybe this is a one-time thing, but i expect that you'll see more non-Coachella Coachellas, whether in Indio or Pasadena, with the likes of Stevie Wonder, Bruce/Tom Petty, Brian Wilson, etc. in following years.

gab how many music fests have you been to

I need at least 1k words, no just posting digits here