So the whole time I've been in New York I've had "Song For Sharon" in my head on and off (though haven't actually listened to it). Only Joni could so deeply and indelibly imprint herself in my brain that I can be standing on a subway platform and suddenly think, "A woman I knew just drowned herself / the well was deep and muddy / she was just shaking off futility / or punishing somebody / my friends were calling up all day yesterday / all emotions and abstraction / it seems we all live so close to that line, and / so far from satisfaction..."
― Tim F, Thursday, 16 June 2016 04:16 (seven years ago) link
i had "free man in paris" in my head all day today
― Mordy, Thursday, 16 June 2016 04:21 (seven years ago) link
although it's pretty obvious her melodic facility nearly dried up some time around 1979.
given that some of the best melodies she ever wrote are on night ride home, lol
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 16 June 2016 08:32 (seven years ago) link
"come in from the cold" is so good
― brimstead, Thursday, 16 June 2016 19:18 (seven years ago) link
One of her best ever.
― Tim F, Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
whole album is fantastic except for "Ray's Dad's Cadillac"
― because moms and because dads (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link
I've always found the lyrics to "The Windfall" a bit off-putting.
― Tim F, Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:45 (seven years ago) link
I don't know the details of the lawsuit, and that might help me enjoy the song
― because moms and because dads (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 June 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link
nahhhh "ray's dad's cadillac" is great too! love the brassy chord stabs that respond to the refrain.
― brimstead, Friday, 17 June 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link
I do like the overall vibe of the verses. I just hate the refrain so much. Focusing on the brass does help, though, so I appreciate the tip.
― because moms and because dads (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 17 June 2016 00:31 (seven years ago) link
"stokin' the star makin' machinery behind the popular song" is just a beautiful turn of phrase
― calstars, Friday, 17 June 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link
Seeing the love that "Come in From the Cold" is getting here is heartwarming.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 17 June 2016 03:44 (seven years ago) link
I don't know if there are even that many songs about looking back on yr life from the vantage point of middle age anyway, but I can't think of one better, or with such a sense of sweep to it.
― Tim F, Friday, 17 June 2016 05:15 (seven years ago) link
I love how the synthesizer responsible for the billowing sound effects is called the Billotron.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 June 2016 10:31 (seven years ago) link
For the Roses holy hell
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Saturday, 9 July 2016 03:38 (seven years ago) link
jason mantzoukas is not really my thing. But he recently revelealed that he listened to Hejira every night for 10 years or something, and it's enough to make me feel something for the guy.
― Salsa Golf (Argentinean Ketchup) (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 9 July 2016 04:48 (seven years ago) link
Eh revealed obv
I found this pretty tasteless, given that afaik Joni is still alive, but by all accounts will very likely be part of next year's montage, which I believe operates as the morbid implication here
― Wimmels, Monday, 27 February 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link
do they only sing songs for that montage from dead musicians? i personally wouldn't read too much into it. idk.
― Mordy, Monday, 27 February 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link
I'm probably just sensitive because I really want Joni to live forever. But no, I don't think they specifically typically use a song by a dead musician, but when I saw the headline, it made me think Joni'd died and I hadn't heard about it. And the elephant in the room is, you know, she's been very ill...
― Wimmels, Monday, 27 February 2017 19:11 (seven years ago) link
"The Silky Veils of Ardor" is killin' me tonight.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 03:02 (six years ago) link
I came across this podcast a couple weeks ago when Lilly Hiatt did an episode, and now I've been going through the backlog listening to older ones.
John Oates spoke so glowingly about Blue that I'm almost at the point where I'm ready to commit to making myself like Joni Mitchell. Even if I never do, it was a joy to hear him talk this way about an artist and album he so clearly loves.http://mrjeremydylan.com/post/151644261850/my-favorite-album-165-john-oates-on-joni
Also, Wimmels man, chill out. Both Sides Now is such a fixture in pop culture that it hardly even registers as a Joni song anymore. It's just a song everybody knows.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 17 October 2017 03:36 (six years ago) link
DOG EAT DOG is her best album fite me.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link
court and spark is my favourite, weird it only got 4 votes
which that outro to help me would just loop forever
― Ross, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
c&s is my favorite too
― marcos, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link
court and sparkhissing of summer lawnsdon juan's reckless daughter / hejirabluefor the roses
the others ive listened to quite a lot but they don't feel familiar enough to me to rank
― marcos, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
court and spark should have stormed this. Night Ride Home is underrated, if only because of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1j0j4r_gnw
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link
Night Ride Home has "come in from the cold" too
― brimstead, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link
Surprised Don Juan gets so overlooked. Feels like the second CD of a hypothetical Hejira deluxe reissue
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link
Well, exactly. It's a good album but I don't think there are many listeners who like it a lot who wouldn't like at least one of Hissing or Hejira better.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
don juan imo is looser, warmer, more spontaneous, and free-flowing than hejira, even if the quality is slightly lower. i reach for it more than hejira
― marcos, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link
The Guardian rank Joni Mitchell's albums.
Bit of a surprise in second place.
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:05 (four years ago) link
What begins promisingly (opening track Sunny Sunday is a reminder of her 70s work) soon disappoints with rhymes as basic as “And the oil spills / And sex kills.”
I love this couplet, thanks to her sandpaper-dry delivery.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link
Without wanting to sound contrary, I think Blue is my least favourite of the albums I've heard and maybe the reason I was originally put off by her music, as I'd originally pegged her as a simpering MOR singer-songwriter type. It doesn't have as much of the playfulness or experimentalism of the other albums I like.Gun-to-head I'd go for Court & Spark (which is her 'Radioactivity' in that the songs are short and you can easily listen to it as a suite).
― frame casual (dog latin), Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link
I had a mild argument on Twitter last Tuesday on that very point: Blue is my least favorite of the major albums. The lack of sonic play is part of it; also, I can't deny that the media line for forty years has been it's her best because it's Her Most Personal Album, which, you know, bollocks to that.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link
"A Case of You" and "Edith and the Kingpin" are two great songs with vastly different arrangements and intentions, but I'd rather listen to the latter.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:30 (four years ago) link
Sometimes an album full of brilliant songs is more than plenty, there's tons of playfulness in the playing and writing on Blue. Not that I ever want to play the best of game with Joni
― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link
yeah i agree with dog latin and alfred, the arrangements on court & spark elevate it way above blue for me, and it also feels just much more melodically generous (which is also aided by the arrangements)
― ufo, Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:47 (four years ago) link
there's tons of playfulness in the playing and writing on Blue
otm, disagree pretty aggressively with this run of posts
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link
the arrangements may not be as sumptuous or thick as on court or hissing but it keeps thinking up ways to be inventive without necessarily amplifying it, i'm thinking of the intro to "all i really want" with those guitars chicken-scratching away in the emptiness, an unsettled and yearning feeling that the rest of the album lives in. also needless to say the title track sets up for the roses which sets up the next few records etc. and this is not even getting into "the last time i saw richard" as a composition
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 August 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link
This makes no sense to me, Blue is pretty much all about the quantum leap in melodic inventiveness and freedom and sheer fun. I love Ladies of the Canyon but it sounds very formal by comparison, you don’t get many couplets like “he gave me back my smile / but he kept my camera to sell”, or vertiginous melodic lifts like “onlyadarkcocconbeforeigetmygorororororororgeouswingsandflyaway”.
― Tim F, Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link
also it's just 10 great songs that slap and pierce emotional armor when you're least expecting it, i have very little interest in how any of these songs apply to joni's biography but they certainly have applied themselves ruthlessly to mine
xp
― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:05 (four years ago) link
Also, rejecting the party line on its confessionalism is still buying into that party line. What matters about this album isn’t revelation or honesty or truth, but the way in which Joni uses a series of stylistic manoeuvres to move beyond sounding composed - the seemingly spontaneous expression of character which is in fact an exemplar or skilful performance.
― Tim F, Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link
brad gets it
Tim otm, Brad otm
― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
I don’t see cross posts on my phone before posting unfortunately
― Tim F, Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
I agree with you both, and the move to dulcimer signifies her sense of play, but having heard Blue before the others I realized what I wanted from Mitchell.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link
I mean, this is like me saying I like Far from the Madding Crowd least among Hardy's major novels, or saying Piccarda is the section of Paradiso furthest from God.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link
it's not that blue doesn't have that stuff, it's just court and spark has it even more
― ufo, Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:15 (four years ago) link
Yeah I know it's relative, but I think you can attribute some of the critical consensus around Blue to that seismic leap in her craft - and again, that's it such a contained, beautiful set of songs - as cult of the artist stuff
― uptown top tanking (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 15 August 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link