bands/acts that either found or lost religion midway through their career

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Glen Galloway left Trumans Water after returning to christianity and formed Soul-Junk.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 11 September 2016 12:56 (seven years ago) link

I thought Truman's Water were all some form of Xian in the first place.
Not sure how much I liked them after seeing them a couple of times and them seeming to do the same moves at the same times in sets on consecutive nights.

Stevolende, Sunday, 11 September 2016 12:59 (seven years ago) link

Talk talk/mark Hollis

he mea ole, he kanaka lapuwale (sciatica), Sunday, 11 September 2016 13:01 (seven years ago) link

xpost - Moby put a short essay about his Christianity in the liner notes to Animal Rights, although the essay is mostly about his distaste for the Christian Coalition. That was '96.

Tom Violence, Sunday, 11 September 2016 13:44 (seven years ago) link

Mark Hollis is a good one. The final 3 Talk Talk albums are basically a trilogy about his religious awakening

beamish13, Sunday, 11 September 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

interesting question buried in here (and with Hollis in particular) about "conversion" and the chicken-or-egg relationship between the discovery and elaboration of an aesthetic sensibility and a religious/spiritual one. or at least i can imagine that it's possible that the pursuit of a certain musical style could inform or create religious belief--rather than the other way around.

ryan, Sunday, 11 September 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

I can also see that being the case with Coltrane, whose spiritual and musical pursuits aren't really separable.

jmm, Sunday, 11 September 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link

Carlos Santana became a disciple of Sri Chinmoy, via John McLaughlin, in 1973 and totally revamped the Santana lineup, made the album Love Devotion Surrender with McLaughlin and Illuminations with Alice Coltrane, and made three more albums - Welcome, Borboletta, and the triple live disc Lotus - that were radically different from everything that had come before (mostly instrumental, for one thing, and a lot more jazz fusion than Latin blues-rock).

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 11 September 2016 19:14 (seven years ago) link

Religious "conversion" is not necessarily a straight-line thing, either. Where do we put Marvin Gaye? Where does "Love Me Now Or Love Me Later" sit in relation to "Sexual Healing"? Or for that matter, in relation to "God is Love"?

As for Santana, I love "Lotus", but is it really that different from "Caravanserai"?

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 September 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link

As for Santana, I love "Lotus", but is it really that different from "Caravanserai"?

I think so, yeah. Much more aggressive, lots of loud stabbing electronics, hard funk, etc. (I think it's Santana's best record, too, but that's secondary.)

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 12 September 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link

Madonna: not a Jew

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 12 September 2016 02:46 (seven years ago) link

mighty baby

velko, Monday, 12 September 2016 03:45 (seven years ago) link

Sunny Day Real Estate - I seem to recall the lead singer starting preaching to audience members towards the end of their career which pissed off the other band members?

Salt n Peppa - one of the two found Jesus iirc according to some distant memory via VH1

Darin, Monday, 12 September 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

Madonna: not a Jew

thx I was wary about opening this can of worms

Οὖτις, Monday, 12 September 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link

I can't find that tour ad/poster she did that only had nine sephirot on it

Οὖτις, Monday, 12 September 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

Insane Clown Posse

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 12 September 2016 23:14 (seven years ago) link

Prince was always religious, but it was only in the late 90s, when Larry Graham introduced him to Jehovah's Witnesses and he became one, that he couldn't accomodate the psychosexual subject matter of his most famous songs with his religious views anymore. AFAIK he didn't play some of the "dirtier" tunes in his catalogue on gigs for years, though his views on the subject seem to have softened towards the end, even though he still remained JW (I think).

Tuomas, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 06:31 (seven years ago) link

Pete Townshend with Meher Baba at the turn of the 70s.

I think he first encountered Baba in 1967 or early '68. Tommy was his first public expression/acknowledgement of his newfound faith.

Not sure when that ended if it did.

In 1992 he wrote about the difficulties of remaining a Baba lover while going through bouts of raging alcoholism, cocaine/heroin addictions, and rampant philandering. He said he'd try to keep quiet about Baba, lest he appear a dilettante or hypocrite.

Then he released Psychoderelict which was lousy with Baba references; the subsequent tour was more a traveling bender than a tour (he played the entire show in Chicago flat on his back).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link

There's a lot to said about the ins and outs of the Jackson family and the Jehovah's Witnesses too, but not many sources to draw on as they don't seem to talk about it very much. Interesting that the lapsed Jehovah's Witness (MJ) got the cold shoulder from the more recent convert (Prince)

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 15:25 (seven years ago) link

We've forgotten Sananda Maitreya, aka Terence Trent D'arby!

Details on his faith are slim at a glance, but presumably some flavor of Buddhism? I'm sure the name change didn't help his career at all, but clips from that time show him in as fine a form as ever, maybe better even!

Oh yeah and also let's not forget Mike Love

erudite beach boys fan (sheesh), Saturday, 24 September 2016 06:07 (seven years ago) link

I read Dizzy Gillespie saying in his autobiography To Be Or Not To Bop about conversion to Islam among jazz musicians in pre-civil rights era US. Apparently there was a difference in status which bypassed some aspects of segregation. Need to reread for specifics but that was the gist. I think it became easier if the player appeared to be an exotic foreigner than an American black. Pretty disgusting state of affairs really to have to do that against institutionalised racism.

Good book too.

Stevolende, Saturday, 24 September 2016 08:09 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I remember reading about that too... Apparently, if they converted to Islam and changed their name into an arabic one, they could show their papers and people would label them as Middle Eastern, who at the time were considered white. So they could check in at segregated hotels, eat in "for whites only" restaurants, etc. According to Gillespie, this was the main reason why some jazzmen converted. Kinda funny but mostly sad, like you say.

Tuomas, Sunday, 25 September 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

"I read Dizzy Gillespie saying in his autobiography To Be Or Not To Bop about conversion to Islam among jazz musicians in pre-civil rights era US. Apparently there was a difference in status which bypassed some aspects of segregation. Need to reread for specifics but that was the gist. I think it became easier if the player appeared to be an exotic foreigner than an American black. Pretty disgusting state of affairs really to have to do that against institutionalised racism."

korla pandit is a pretty famous example of this (not that he converted to islam, but he got on tv presenting himself as a "mystical easterner").

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Sunday, 25 September 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link

Wanna mention Princess Superstar and Andrew WK who both went down the self-help/life coach/self-actualization rabbithole so far that it somehow resulted in them losing whatever it was that motivated them to make cool music.

everything, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 23:07 (seven years ago) link

I was curious about this...I know AWK still tours or at least does brief jaunts. What's he playing? All of I Get Wet and a few other songs or what?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 00:19 (seven years ago) link

Basically just plays his old stuff (half I Get Wet, quite a bit from Close Calls, this and that from whereever else) as a solo artist which is actually pretty good if it's in the right venue. Saw him twice over the last 3 or 4 years - once was great because it was a small club so him with a keyboard and an ipod and either he was in the crowd half the time or the crowd was onstage half the time. It was really fun. The other time was him in a larger venue on a big empty stage and it sucked.

Alternatively he DJs. Or does stunt gigs with his piano or guesting with people and that kind of thing.

everything, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 00:26 (seven years ago) link


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