Sonny Bono: "Grandmas sit in chairs and rem-o-nisce" - The Beat Goes On
― Josefa, Saturday, 24 December 2016 04:14 (seven years ago) link
My favourite example of this has to be Infinity by Guru Josh. Because (1) who in the world pronounces it "goo-roo"? and (2) IT'S HIS OWN NAME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2CIiES_xxk
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 24 December 2016 10:09 (seven years ago) link
Just found out Guru Josh committed suicide :((((
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 December 2016 11:54 (seven years ago) link
What a jam
― niels, Saturday, 24 December 2016 12:05 (seven years ago) link
That Nancy and Lee song about the Green-wich songwriter, they even comment on it halfway in then Lee says 'I dunno, I didn't write it.'
― Mark G, Saturday, 24 December 2016 12:45 (seven years ago) link
'dunker shane' by wayne newton
― estela, Saturday, 24 December 2016 13:17 (seven years ago) link
It's not incorrect, but I'm always bothered by the stranglers 'lahst' and 'mahst'. I can see pronouncing one that way, but both bothers me for some reason.
― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Saturday, 24 December 2016 13:23 (seven years ago) link
Um, both are correct. Does anyone pronounce them differently to each other?
― Mark G, Saturday, 24 December 2016 13:28 (seven years ago) link
I do - mast always with a short a. They would rhyme fine if he did them both that way.
― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Saturday, 24 December 2016 13:38 (seven years ago) link
Last seems to change a lot though. Like I said it's not incorrect, I'm just not sure I've ever heard anyone say mahst.
― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Saturday, 24 December 2016 13:39 (seven years ago) link
I've backed myself into a corner I can't defend here...it just sounds really queer and forced to me.
― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Saturday, 24 December 2016 13:54 (seven years ago) link
I saw Lee Hazlewood perform in New York once and he sang "Houston" - which he did write - and he pronounced it How-ston as a little joke for the locals
― Josefa, Saturday, 24 December 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link
How is "guru" supposed to be pronounced? I say "goo-roo"
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link
all-time favorite is nivea "laudromat" (pronounced "laundry-mat")
― k3vin k., Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link
Well I can find both /ˈɡʊ.ɹuː/ and /ˈɡuː.ɹuː/ cited online, but have a listen to Infinity and tell me it sounds right
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link
He seems to be saying gu-roooahhhh.
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link
i for one am shocked that Paul Walden, Jersey-born son of dentist Harold Walden, may not have pronounced "Guru" according to Sanskrit orthodoxy
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
Britney in "PIece of Me" - derrière = dairy-er
Apparently some people say it that way, but it still sounds funny
― Josefa, Saturday, 24 December 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link
"hyperbowl"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLK3LymaVAA
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 24 December 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link
those words are her own, she can pronounce freely
― niels, Sunday, 25 December 2016 09:09 (seven years ago) link
It sounds the same as Marc Bolan's pronunciation in "Metal Guru" to me? I think most North Americans would accent the first syllable instead of the second but afaict, the two syllables sound to me like they have about equal emphasis when Indian people pronounce them, so neither really sounds 'better' than the other to me.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 December 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
I was wondering wtf was up with the Weekend pronouncing Wrath of Khan as Wraith of Khan, but apparently it's a deliberate reference to the roof of his Rolls Royce. ⭐
― Manitobiloba (Kim), Monday, 26 December 2016 03:53 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoA_zY6tqQwDead Kennedys - California Über Alles
The singer pronounces the letter "ü" as if it was "u", even though they are two different sounds. Maybe it's unfair to criticise an American for not knowing how to pronounce German, but they shouldn't have had their chorus in that language then. The mispronounciation is even more pronounced in the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy song that samples the Dead Kennedys tune:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBAkOifDeSw
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 09:10 (seven years ago) link
Dead Kennedys - California Über Alles
The singer pronounces the letter "ü" as "u", even though they are two different sounds. The mispronounciation is even more pronounced in the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy tune that samples Dead Kennedys:
Maybe it's unfair to criticise Americans for mispronouncing German, but OTOH you shouldn't have you chorus in a foreign language if you don't know how it's pronounced.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 09:14 (seven years ago) link
― Manitobiloba (Kim), Monday, 26 December 2016 03:53 (yesterday) Permalink
Wraith is the name of a Rolls-Royce car model
― Lee626, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 09:41 (seven years ago) link
o_0
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 10:03 (seven years ago) link
?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 11:06 (seven years ago) link
taking a small amount of time to learn how to say something you intend to record yourself saying is a good way to avoid looking like an incurious rube but the counterpoint to that would be wgaf, most of the egs itt add character to the song
― forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 11:14 (seven years ago) link
With the DK/Disposable Hiphoprisy example it certainly comes off as rubish, since they want the chorus to be a "smart" piece of satire by citing the words of the Nazi-era German national anthem, yet they couldn't be arsed to find out the correct pronounciation. And it's not like it's a long and complex sentence to be memorised, just two short words! (They even get the "alles" more or less correct.)
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 11:26 (seven years ago) link
A lot of anglophones have trouble with ü so it might not be for lack of trying
― forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 11:42 (seven years ago) link
That's odd, because the "ü" sound is quite similar to the common "ew" sound in English (such as in "few", "screw", "news" etc).
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 12:09 (seven years ago) link
So it basically pronounced ew-behr, shouldn't be too hard.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 12:11 (seven years ago) link
Then again, lot of English speakers seem to think that "ä" and "ö" are intechangeable with "a" and "o" instead of denoting completely different sounds, so I guess they just assume it's the same with "ü" and "u" instead of bothering to find out?
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 12:14 (seven years ago) link
Breaking up this German pronunciation party, "I am the mod-ren man" from "Mr. Roboto" just came to mind.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 12:41 (seven years ago) link
It's a fair point but otoh the speaker in the song is a Californian, not a German-speaker. I don't really know what Jerry Brown's usual practice is when pronouncing foreign words, though.xp
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 12:47 (seven years ago) link
If this is correct, Geddy Lee mispronounces "Barchetta" in "Red Barchetta".
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 12:49 (seven years ago) link
Idk what's going on with that "mod-ren man" thing, yeah.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 12:50 (seven years ago) link
xxp Wait till the Uber car service people hear about this
― Josefa, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link
― Tuomas
also the very first line of "kill the poor" opens with a blatant subject-verb disagreement. i don't see how jello biafra has any punk credibility at all totally ignoring the basic rules of grammar like that.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 27 December 2016 23:24 (seven years ago) link
Jello is from Colorado, not California.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 23:40 (seven years ago) link
I know but "California Uber Alles" is sung from the pov of a Californian who plans to establish Cali supremacy, specifically Jerry Brown. The first line of the song is literally "I am Governor Jerry Brown".
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 02:28 (seven years ago) link
So if we're going to concern ourselves with the 'correctness' of Jello Biafra's enunciation,, it might be a more relevant question whether the dialect in the song reflects how a Californian, or even Brown himself, would speak than whether the pronunciation of a German loanword is authentic to the German pronunciation.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 02:32 (seven years ago) link
these long üs don't sound much different to me
http://joycep.myweb.port.ac.uk/pronounce/audio/tuer.wav
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 02:49 (seven years ago) link
also, if you're the leader of a punk band, it's probably easier to yell "OOO-ber" than "*spits strudel everywhere* yooOOuu-buhrrr"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link
not singing, but what i find really offensive is every arnold schwarzenegger performance. it's like he doesn't care at all
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 04:42 (seven years ago) link
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, December 27, 2016 6:32 PM (five hours ago)
uh that's a nice idea in theory, but every single song Jello Biafra sings sounds like Jello Biafra -- he doesn't make any effort to do realistic impressions of others. It's comedy and satire.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 07:50 (seven years ago) link
I wasn't being entirely serious, just pointing out that I'm not sure that an authentic German pronunciation of "uber" would even be 'correct' in context.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link
Really, the most interesting thing about this discussion is probably that Tuomas was listening to the Dead Kennedys.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link
Not really, I found out about that tune via Disposable Heroes sampling it.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0sTpZja6JQ
Baby, baby, fawwin' in loveI'm fawwin' in love againBaby, baby, fawwin' in loveI'm fawwin' in love againBaby, baby, fawwin' in loveI'm fawwin' in love againBaby, baby, fawwin' in loveI'm fawwin' in love again
― aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link