enh, like i said, i'm not enough of a takethatologist to support the suggestion - i probably could make a somewhat tortured narrative to say there is a cause/effect relationship but tbh i don't care enough to type it out xxp
― hunk of poo, big fart, girlfriend, and Dove soap (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link
xpost Did Fleet Foxes get bigger since 2012?
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:42 (seven years ago) link
Bobby Brown / New Edition, for a few years at least
― HPSCHD, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link
Fleet Foxes and Father John Misty
no
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
FF haven't released anything since he left
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link
Blondie, when original bass player Fred Smith quit to join Television
― Josefa, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 18:56 (seven years ago) link
Jonathan Donahue/Flaming Lips
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link
both kevin ayers and daevid allen did pretty well for themselves after leaving soft machine, and soft machine stayed on the up-and-up. mind you the softs were downhill after robert wyatt left, but that was years later...
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 19:11 (seven years ago) link
Both Miles Davis and Herbie Hancock sold more records after they parted ways in '68, though not immediately
― Josefa, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 19:12 (seven years ago) link
jazz seems like a p big grey area for this
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I guess especially in that period when jazzers were alternating between an esoteric approach and a more commercial one.
Maybe slightly more relevant would be cases where singers got famous from big bands in the '40s and the band got bigger too, which I'm sure has happened, but don't know if it's worth opening that box.
― Josefa, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link
I was gonna say, sidepeople seems like cheating. Hell, Miles alone -- Coltrane, Bill Evans, Herbie Hancock, Tony Williams, Wayne Shorter, Chick Corea, Keith Jarrett, Billy Cobham, John McLaughlin...but in a lot of instances, the sidepeople were also recording (or had already recorded) as leaders while with Miles.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link
Wayne hussey / dead or alive
― NickB, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link
arguably Suede/Butler who both had a big(ger) success right after the split : Suede with "Coming Up" and Butler with "Yes".that didn't last a long time, though.― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:46 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Suede were successful right up to A New Morning, which was their first poor seller. Butler's solo career was a non-starter, and Suede are making some of their best music now.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link
Stephen tin tin Duffy / Duran Duran
― NickB, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 20:45 (seven years ago) link
The Housemartins -> The Beautiful South / Fatboy Slim.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 20:46 (seven years ago) link
Tin Tin Duffy/Duran Duran
I was thinking of that one earlier as I headed out. Think it took a while before Stephen Duffy became popular or was that just became credible. Was Tin Tin a teenybop popstar who became more underground with the Lilac Time?
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 20:47 (seven years ago) link
He was massive in smash hits for a whole month in 198~
― NickB, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link
Fleetwood Mac / Bob Welch (his leaving the band led to Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham joining).
― 2017, how bad could it be? (snoball), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link
Did Welch become more successful after leaving the Mac, though?
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 21:56 (seven years ago) link
he had a successful jelly line iirc
― Neanderthal, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 22:00 (seven years ago) link
I'd say yeah. Mac with Welch had some medium selling albums and a bunch of non-charting singles; French Kiss went #12 on the Billboard chart and spawned 3 hit singles.
― Snorting and all (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 10 January 2017 22:03 (seven years ago) link
Jam & Lewis/The Time
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 22:17 (seven years ago) link
When did they quit The Time? They play on "Pandemonium", the band's most popular album, so it doesn't seem like they'd fit this thread's premise.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 22:33 (seven years ago) link
I mean, Jam & Lewis are certainly now better known outside The Time, but The Time didn't become more popular without them.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 22:35 (seven years ago) link
Klaus schulze / tangerine dream ?
― NickB, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 22:56 (seven years ago) link
Jay Farrar / Uncle Tupelo (which became Wilco after he left)
― alpine static, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 22:58 (seven years ago) link
Michael Rother / kraftwerk
― NickB, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 22:59 (seven years ago) link
they quit prior to Purple Rain & Ice Cream Castle. Ice Cream Castle has the band's biggest hits on it.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 23:26 (seven years ago) link
Jonathan Donahue (Mercury Rev) / Flaming Lips
― "I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 00:40 (seven years ago) link
Jerry Butler / The Impressions
― "I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 00:43 (seven years ago) link
Ben E. King / Drifters
― "I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 01:22 (seven years ago) link
^ That's the one I was trying to think of, but I got sidetracked thinking of Clyde McPhatter, who had pop hits post-Drifters while The Drifters were having pop hits as well (1960s) but it's not the same because the '60s Drifters were a completely different group from the '50s Drifters
― Josefa, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 02:01 (seven years ago) link
Syd Barrett + Pink Floyd
― it me, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 02:02 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, Syd's astonishing run of platinum solo albums was something no one could have predicted.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 02:14 (seven years ago) link
Chevy Chase leaving the band he had with Fagen/Becker
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 03:05 (seven years ago) link
Strawbs / Sandy Denny, sort of
― Lee626, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 05:35 (seven years ago) link
Madonna / The Breakfast Club
― LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 05:46 (seven years ago) link
rod stewart / ron wood / jeff beck group (maybe)
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 06:12 (seven years ago) link
Then you've got Ry Cooder quitting Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band after their first record. Sort of thing seems to happen a lot in certain scenes... Van Dyke Parks was a member of the Mothers of Invention around the same time...
Somehow I'd gotten this far in life without ever knowing either of these things. Wow.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 06:15 (seven years ago) link
Humble Pie/Peter Frampton?Frampton went solo and had success with Show Me the Way, Comes Alive etc but were Humble Pie passing their peak or was that their greatest success point?I like the Frampton era stuff anyway and think Clempson was pretty good elsewhere too.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 10:41 (seven years ago) link
Buffalo Springfield.Neil Young and Stephen Stills. Richie Furay and Jim Messina too, actually.― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, January 10, 2017 12:10 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Oh wait, never mind on Buffalo Springfield. Read the thread title wrong.- kornrulez6969, Tuesday, January 10, 2017 12:10 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You could make a case for Poco and Jim Messina though
― Lee626, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 11:17 (seven years ago) link
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever)
vdp's involvement in the mothers is not very well-known - he's not on any of their recordings - but cooder plays guitar on the first magic band album _safe as milk_ and that record is fabulous.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 12 January 2017 00:01 (seven years ago) link
D.J. Bonebrake was apparently in the Germs in 1978, before X. Depends how you define "successful."
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 January 2017 00:26 (seven years ago) link
How about Skip Spence starting a bunch of bands then leaving them to, well, make it? Jefferson Airplane, Moby Grape and The Doobie Brothers..
― Mark G, Thursday, 12 January 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link
Didn't Moby Grape fall off the map after their first three (Spence) albums, though? I know they made more albums.
― clemenza, Thursday, 12 January 2017 22:35 (seven years ago) link
I don't think this one really fits, but how about Michael Steele leaving The Runaways in 1976 before they recorded their first album, then joining the Bangles 8 years later.
(Random Wikipedia fact: Michael Steele briefly played bass for Snakefinger.)
― Hideous Lump, Friday, 13 January 2017 03:50 (seven years ago) link
Hard to know what would've become of Genesis had Gabriel not left but I highly doubt it could have resulted in something like Invisible Touch. Phil was definitely more of a hitmaker than Peter was, and I don't think Peter could've done the things he wanted to within the band.
In an alternative universe, "In Your Eyes" would have probably sounded almost same and just been called a Genesis song. And stuff like "In Too Deep" would have been saved for solo Phil Collins because it sounds way more like his solo stuff than full band.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 14 January 2017 09:37 (seven years ago) link
maybe not but Kim Deal/Pixies of the 90s? she left and within 2 years the Breeders had a bigger hit than the Pixies ever did.
might be hard to make the case for now financially but imo creatively the Breeders are still way more successful whereas Pixies have kind of lost their magic and turned into a generic bar band.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 14 January 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link
Eh? That is almost completely wrong afaik. Kim didn't leave, the band broke up, the same year as the Breeders had their big hit. I suppose the same year is within 2 years, so not quite completely wrong.
But how do you figure Kim "leaving" the Pixies made them more successful when the Pixies were then defunct for 10 years?
― Transform All Suffering Into Poo (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 14 January 2017 15:33 (seven years ago) link