xxp yeah good call on all those early Poor Circulation-era Television tracks, they are great
― a Radiohead album stamping on a human face, forever (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link
lotta early Weirdos tracks as well, found on the Ranting In A Rubber Room boot, Live At The Masque, etc.
The Screamers, of course
― a Radiohead album stamping on a human face, forever (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:28 (seven years ago) link
otm about those two
Pink Floyd's "Vegetable Man"
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link
thought that was a proper studio recording, but ugh fucking seabirds just kills me!
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link
maybe it is but every version I've heard of it sure is shitty
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link
every version of "apples and oranges" sounds shitty too but that's a real song
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link
oh wait I guess a proper version came out on that box last year? never mind
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― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link
yeah comparing the boots to the box set version is like comparing... no wait
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:41 (seven years ago) link
I wish Radiohead recorded a version of "Nude" closer to the early version you see on their documentary Meeting People Is Easy.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link
lol rush
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 February 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link
brian eno - the songs known as "dignified by the door" and "love slips away" (probably not their real titles), extant only on a very poor fidelity live tape with the winkies in 1974
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 12:44 (seven years ago) link
Would be nice if Slowdive were able to successfully do some of their aborted I Saw The Sun/Souvlaki songs.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 12:50 (seven years ago) link
Loads of Springsteen.
― heaven parker (anagram), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 13:07 (seven years ago) link
Elvis, "Dark Moon"
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 13:10 (seven years ago) link
The versions of 'She's Your Lover Now' and 'I'll Keep it With Mine' on the first Dylan bootleg set are so close to being finished that you feel that just one more take would've utterly nailed both songs.
― Bongo Herbert (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 13:15 (seven years ago) link
bogshed_ "hardly manky"
― massaman gai, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 13:37 (seven years ago) link
"The Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner" by Belle & Sebastian
― enochroot, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 14:52 (seven years ago) link
you feel that just one more take would've utterly nailed both songs.
Maybe, but after the take that became the master of "Like a Rolling Stone" (take 4), Dylan thought it necessary to give it eleven more tries. He never struck me as a "we're so close, just one more take!" kinda guy...more, "let's try it this other way for seven takes...hm, that didn't work...let's try it another way for four more takes..."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 15:10 (seven years ago) link
Black Walls by Pavement
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link
good call on those live Eno/Winkies tracks
Velvet Underground's "Guess I'm Falling In Love" and a bunch of others like "Sweet Sister Ray"
― a Radiohead album stamping on a human face, forever (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 15:41 (seven years ago) link
Some enterprising individual made this, which is damn near perfect:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb8GfC2o9Eo
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link
Just got a track from the Action lp Brain on my walkman. Officially released version clears it up massively on previous bootleg but major shame there wasn't a finished product instead of demoes. Did 1st lp also sit unreleased until Edsel compi?
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link
i know "Circles" was re-recorded in the 70s but it lost a lot of the charm compared to this demo. it's a shame there wasn't a Beatles-era attempt for George to capture this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpkUX-JWc0g
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:12 (seven years ago) link
there are plenty of great Neil Young tunes that he played live but never released -- "give me strength," "try," "homefires," "love art blues" ... etc. Fortunately, I think studio versions exist, they just have never been bootlegged.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:15 (seven years ago) link
This'll only mean something to Twin Citians, and even then probably not, but everything The Wallets played live in the early 80s. The records they finally managed to make sounded totally different.
― Fake posts from a failing poster (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, February 14, 2017 3:06 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OMG I love you for mentioning The Wallets on ILX. I saw them live so many times when I was in high school. For one thing, they played a lot of all-ages shows. We used to dance like maniacs to them. Actually, I wish they had left us a recording of their awesome version of Edward Lear's "The Owl and the Pussycat" which they performed on an episode of prairie home companion.
I was v sad to learn a couple of years after the fact that Steve Kramer had died.
― his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link
The versions of 'She's Your Lover Now' .. on the first Dylan bootleg set .. so close to being finished that you feel that just one more take would've utterly nailed (it).
― Bongo Herbert (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 13:15 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ah, you need to hear the "complete" sessions thing: Bob was totally worn out, as were the band, by the time they got to the last-but-one take. He did one on his own as the final take just to have it done.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link
the she's your lover now sessions are really interesting and worth hearing! some weird variations in approach — makes the almost-complete version from the Bootleg Series seem all the more miraculous.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:31 (seven years ago) link
I was thinking the other day of just applying a fade on the last x seconds of the bootleg series 1-3 version so I can pretend it ends there intentionally.
― his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link
why have we not mentioned sour milk sea? Jackie Lomax notwithstanding.
there's a great outfake of sour milk sea as well - george's esher vocals combined with the lomax backing track.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 16:49 (seven years ago) link
I actually love Lomax' version/vocal; I'd rather hear him sing it than George. Still, no reason it -- with Lomax' vocal -- couldn't have gone on the white album.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 17:02 (seven years ago) link
Apart from that it's too much like "Get Back" in some of the lyrics, I know that one came after yeah..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
How about songs you only wish existed as live versions? I vote 'True Love Waits' ...
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link
Sartorius by Goldfrapp. It's one of my favourite songs they've done and their best attempt at a Bond theme. I'm still waiting for a studio version.
https://youtu.be/s5fA081ACvw
― kitchen person, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
Neil Young - "The Bridge"
― henry s, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link
actually my vote goes to the original Al Bouchard version of the Imaginos album (later revamped very differently as a Blue Oyster Cult record)
― his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:14 (seven years ago) link
chrysanthemum - zwan i'm doing ok, pretty good/my new freedom - elliott smithbonfire of the vanities - panda bearabandoned love - dylan (biograph version sucks)covered in frogs - animal collectivemost of the pastichio medley - smashing pumpkinsthe second arrangement - steely dando yourself a favor - princedo re mi - nirvanausa suite (original all electronic version) - dan deaconthere's too much love (original band arrangement) - sufjan stevens
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:14 (seven years ago) link
The Joy Division version of "Ceremony" comes to mind; the live version on Still is one of my favorite JD songs, but it's frustrating that Ian's vocals are inaudible through the first verse. The New Order version is wonderful but inevitably has a very different feel, however similar their arrangement is.
― one way street, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link
oh fuck how could i forget
TELL ME, MOMMA - DYLAN
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:32 (seven years ago) link
usa suite (original all electronic version) - dan deacon
where do I find this
― frogbs, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:35 (seven years ago) link
^ emailed u
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link
otm about this live versions are straight fire
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:52 (seven years ago) link
awesome - thank you!
― frogbs, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:53 (seven years ago) link
the version on Decade is definitive, but there's no released studio version of Neil Young - Sugar Mountain
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:54 (seven years ago) link
in Robertson's new bio he says they played Tell Me Momma during a studio session in early 1966, but I guess if it wasn't included in that giant Cutting Edge boxed set it's been lost ... or Robbie is just BS-ing. Probably the latter. Either way, listening to the Live 66 set shows that Dylan never really settled on lyrics for it.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link
The Birthday party Pleasure Avalanche and 6 Strings that Drew blood which were apparently finished mixed, then somebody left the tapes on a train and the versions on the 83 eps cd are far lesser quality.
Mary Me (LIe Lie) which is around as a Peel session version and a These Immortal Souls version but not a complete Birthday party studio version.
Are the tracks on the Easy Action live '71 Stooges set the same as those that would have been on the 3rd Elektra lp if the band hadn't been dropped.Also the Iggy & the Stooges stuff apart from Raw Power, i.e. Open Up & Bleed, She Creatures of The Hollywood Hills etc etc.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link
oh yeah those stooges post-Funhouse songs are a good call
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link
^ Jesse Johnson recorded a nice version of "Do Yourself a Favor" on his debut album...
― henry s, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link
I thought the ^ meant that Jesse had recorded a Stooges cover!
― You're going to see a lot of love. Okay? Thank you. (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:35 (seven years ago) link
speaking of detroit, how about sonic's rendezvous band
― the late great, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 20:40 (seven years ago) link
Beach Boys/Brian/Dennis stuff:
SMiLE of courseBig Sur It's Over NowStill I Dream Of ItSherry She Needs MeHELP Is On The Way(Wouldn't It be Nice To) Live AgainEcology
― kurt schwitterz
"guess i'm dumb" with brian vox
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 23:22 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7btG7ySJYU
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 23:24 (seven years ago) link
^no vox for Corgaphobes
i think they are more accessible now because of deluxe editions/youtube/prince dying
yeah i mean it took me like ten years to track down those plant/page sessions in india after i heard about it. today it seems like every day "unreleased tracks" from bands are popping up, frequently from the bands themselves. the long tail is _really_ fucking long these days, and that applies to unreleased recordings as much as it does to anything else.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 February 2017 23:25 (seven years ago) link
I meant more modern and young bands. Maybe because they know the internet, they'll be more protective of demos?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 23:29 (seven years ago) link
Mac DeMarco has put out the demos for all his albums shortly after their release. lots of young bands post demos to soundcloud, youtube, etc
― flappy bird, Thursday, 16 February 2017 00:23 (seven years ago) link
i know this isn't "rock music" per se, but lin-manuel miranda put a bunch of his "hamilton" demos up on soundcloud. for today's bands... i don't know, i feel like they tend to use "demo tapes" for their original purpose - to get people to listen to them! who are the big young-ish artists today? kendrick lamar? his last release was basically demo recordings. frank ocean? he put out "memrise".
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 February 2017 02:19 (seven years ago) link
Prince's version of his "Love...Thy Will Be Done"
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Thursday, 16 February 2017 02:41 (seven years ago) link
the incomparable tim smith, and his incomparable dream dress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBdJDG0abUY
― imago, Thursday, 16 February 2017 02:45 (seven years ago) link
bonus track: i really, really, really wish lapsus linguae would release their great lost album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF30125KJTU
― imago, Thursday, 16 February 2017 02:47 (seven years ago) link
Black Walls by Pavement― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:18 AM (eleven hours ago)
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:18 AM (eleven hours ago)
"Black Walls" is just "Spizzle Trunk" slowed down.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 16 February 2017 03:05 (seven years ago) link
The five unreleased Nick Drake originals on the Family Tree album: They're Leaving Me Behind, Blossom, Bird Flew By, Rain, Come Into the Garden. Although the tape hiss and limited range does give them a particular distanced mystery.
― Hideous Lump, Thursday, 16 February 2017 03:58 (seven years ago) link
https://youtu.be/jVokN8kq8dQ
― earlnash, Thursday, 16 February 2017 04:03 (seven years ago) link
That's the demo of "Peking Spring" by Mission of Burma.
― earlnash, Thursday, 16 February 2017 04:04 (seven years ago) link
Also, "Mayfair" by Nick Drake - the version by Millie (of "My Boy Lollipop" fame) is interesting - arranged by Robert Kirby!
― Mark G, Thursday, 16 February 2017 08:09 (seven years ago) link
Cary Grant's Wedding by the Fall, though the live one is just fine
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 16 February 2017 11:08 (seven years ago) link
Ferdinand the Imposter - The Band
and more Dylan - Minstrel Boy - exists only as a particularly ropey basement tape recording which hints at great possibilities for the song that the dull Isle of Wight live performance doesn't fulfil.
― Bongo Herbert (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 16 February 2017 11:25 (seven years ago) link
"Guess I'm Falling In Love" gets all the press, but I really love the Velvets song "Ride Into the Sun". That acetate with Lou's vox on the Australian box set is heaven, but even then I miss the modulation into the long "It's hard to live in the city" outro from the live versions. (That section is also present on Lou's solo version, but God that version is shit.)
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 February 2017 11:55 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, was gonna say that one. The acetate is clearly a studio version, clearly the original tape is long lost.
Search out MoeJadKateBarry for a version of "Guess I'm falling in love", as near as dammit what a VU studio version would have sounded like. Apart from its Jad Fair singing, but hey..
― Mark G, Thursday, 16 February 2017 13:02 (seven years ago) link
"Ariel" (Home Demo) from the Robert Smith solo album that never happened.
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 16 February 2017 13:17 (seven years ago) link
I Know (We Could Be So Happy Baby) (If We Wanted To be) (or however the brackets go) by Jeff Buckley.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 16 February 2017 13:50 (seven years ago) link
Radiohead's True Love Waits per the 1998 live version with Johnny playing the swirling keyboards. Just heartbreaking.
The Live Recordings 2001 version is just ok and the Moon Shaped Pool version is way too slow and moribund.
― LimbsKing, Thursday, 16 February 2017 14:06 (seven years ago) link
^ Yup. I think they ruined it.
― Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Thursday, 16 February 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link
The version with Doug Yule singing is nice, has the same structure as the Lou solo version, but drumless and keyboard based.
― Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 February 2017 19:33 (seven years ago) link
yeah that is a good version, though i miss the chiming guitars from the acetate version. and as much as i hate "hey jude" endings, the live version where they just jam on "it's hard to live in the city" for like ten minutes is tops!
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:35 (seven years ago) link
The whole "From Pink They Fell Into Blue" EP by Melody's Echo Chamber (all demos).
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Friday, 17 February 2017 02:29 (seven years ago) link
i love threads like this!
― rip van wanko, Friday, 17 February 2017 02:38 (seven years ago) link
Feminine Complex - Hold Me
― Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Friday, 17 February 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link
r.e.m.'s "bad day" was a good answer until they finally released it which they probably shouldn't have
― rip van wanko, Friday, 17 February 2017 02:45 (seven years ago) link
Look Blue Go Purple - Ralta
Joni Mitchell - Hunter
Stina Nordenstam - 'And the Winner Is...' Give Me More of Everything, and Common Miracle (she recorded the first two during the sessions for The World Is Saved sessions, but they didn't make it onto that album, though they were included in a documentary prior to its release)
Jackie DeShannon - Jackie DeShannon - Something in your Blood (she recorded several albums' worth of publisher demos, some of which were successfully peddled to other artists and some of which were left to rot)
Aztec Camera - Green Jacket Grey
Marshall Crenshaw - My Favourite Waste of Time
Nina Nastasia - the four Run to Ruin outtakes that make up her May 3, 2002 Peel Session
― schrute dwyte (unregistered), Friday, 17 February 2017 04:09 (seven years ago) link
Paul Westerburg - Men Without Ties
― it me, Friday, 17 February 2017 04:13 (seven years ago) link
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPEhIoKeTg0
― M.C., Friday, 17 February 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link
Jon Brion - "Citgo Sign"
His acoustic live versions promise power-pop rapture, but the demo did not deliver those particular goods.
― SlimAndSlam, Saturday, 18 February 2017 04:10 (seven years ago) link
A lot of Spiritalized songs were amazing in early live versions but we're completely rearranged on the albums (and not for the better). "Take Good Care of It" and "Goodnight Goodnight / Funeral Home" are the first two that come to mind.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Saturday, 18 February 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link
Did "Solicitor in Studio" ever get a studio version?
Its not a lost Fall classic as such, but hey.
― Mark G, Saturday, 18 February 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link
Canned Heat - "Pulling Hair Blues"
― timellison, Saturday, 18 February 2017 21:09 (seven years ago) link
The live version was at least released on an album and a best-of, but oh, for a studio version of Polyrock - Warm & Dry
― a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 18 February 2017 22:30 (seven years ago) link
Pavement -- For Sale, The Preston School of Industry
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 19 February 2017 14:21 (seven years ago) link