transcends to the cover art too imo
― gr8080, Friday, 10 March 2017 03:56 (seven years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/wkBVpx3.jpg https://i.imgur.com/l4ar4mc.jpg
― gr8080, Friday, 10 March 2017 03:58 (seven years ago) link
u know how similar and yet so different those two albums are gonna sound just looking at them
I wish y'all could just get down w both... like me
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Friday, 10 March 2017 04:30 (seven years ago) link
I started w wave 2 so I had to work backwards and it was hard to get into that stuff at first for the exact opposite reasons as Evan
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Friday, 10 March 2017 04:32 (seven years ago) link
for yr own special sweetheart was my #1
b-side '68' should have been on the album
― mookieproof, Friday, 10 March 2017 04:51 (seven years ago) link
Spottie, what music were you listening to before you got into the second wave stuff?
― Evan R, Friday, 10 March 2017 04:56 (seven years ago) link
Rap
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Friday, 10 March 2017 04:59 (seven years ago) link
And r&b, some punk, alt rock, grunge
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Friday, 10 March 2017 05:01 (seven years ago) link
I was a big bad religion fan in high school which I guess was my gateway into this stuff?
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Friday, 10 March 2017 05:05 (seven years ago) link
Huh, that's interesting. That was pretty much my diet, too. But I think a big part of it is just age. For anybody who came up in the 90s (or before) and witnessed the rise and fall of the alternative nation, where underground rock became this kind of excessive, gaudy, major-label burlesque, a lot of 2000s commercial emo is a hard sell, because it explicitly embraced those big-budget, major-label trappings most of the best punk and indie releases of that era were rejecting.
I've warmed quite a bit to that blockbuster sound, and can kind of appreciate the audacity of it now, but for people who came up listening to Dischord or Touch & Go or whatever, it was so alien---just like, a kind of uncool that almost felt arrogant. I hadn't thought much about the experience of coming at the music backwards, going from the plastic wrap mall punk stuff to the rawer stuff.
― Evan R, Friday, 10 March 2017 05:15 (seven years ago) link
I always thought it was kinda easier to work backward from a commercial gateway, though. Like, I feel like being a Green Day fan who gradually goes back to the Sex Pistols and Black Flag or w/e is probably far easier than a 80s punk trying to get into Green Day or Blink-182 (probably the band that marks a generational divide among rock fans more cleanly than any other I can think of)
― Evan R, Friday, 10 March 2017 05:17 (seven years ago) link
oh I should say I was into Green Day and Blink, not sure how I forgot those. first two cds I bought were August & everything after and Dookie when I was 12 ('93)
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Friday, 10 March 2017 05:32 (seven years ago) link
― Evan R, Thursday, March 9, 2017 10:17 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this seems right in general
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Friday, 10 March 2017 05:38 (seven years ago) link
awesome poll (wish i had voted!) but would it be possible to get the year along with the album during the rollout if it isn't too much trouble?― just another (diamonddave85)
― just another (diamonddave85)
Since you asked: here's a shiny new version of the
RECAP
100. At the Drive‐In - Vaya (1999)99. Elliott - False Cathedrals (2000)98. The Weakerthans - Reconstruction Site (2003)97. Quicksand - Slip (1993)96. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake, It's Morning (2005)95. Jimmy Eat World - Static Prevails (1996)94. Straylight Run - Straylight Run (2004)93 (TIE). Pedro the Lion - Winners Never Quit (2000)93 (TIE). Aereogramme - A Story in White (2001)91. Say Anything - ...Is a Real Boy (2004)90. Saetia - A Retrospective (2001)89. Angel Hair - Pregnant With the Senior Class (1997)88. Embrace - Embrace (1987)87. Rival Schools - United by Fate (2001)86. Thirty Ought Six - Hag Seed (1995)85 (TIE). Jawbreaker - Bivouac (1992)85 (TIE). Fireside - Elite (2000)85 (TIE). blink‐182 - Enema of the State (1999)82. Shotmaker - The Complete Discography: 1993-1996 (2000)81. Dashboard Confessional - A Mark • A Mission • A Brand • A Scar (2003)
80. Moss Icon - Lyburnum (1997)79 (TIE). Lifetime - Jersey's Best Dancers (1997)79 (TIE). Bedhead - Transaction de Novo (1998)77. Taking Back Sunday - Tell All Your Friends (2002)76. City of Caterpillar - City of Caterpillar (2002)75. Against Me! - Transgender Dysphoria Blues (2014)74. Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come (1998)73. Saves the Day - Through Being Cool (1999)72. Saves the Day - Stay What You Are (2001)71. The Promise Ring - Very Emergency (1999)70. Dashboard Confessional - The Swiss Army Romance (2000)69 (TIE). Pinegrove - Cardinal (2016)69 (TIE). Fall Out Boy - From Under the Cork Tree (2005)67 (TIE). Knapsack - This Conversation is Ending Starting Right Now (1998)67 (TIE). Copeland - Beneath Medicine Tree (2003)65. Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You (2001)64. Rilo Kiley - The Execution of All Things (2002)63. Aereogramme - Sleep and Release (2003)62. Three Mile Pilot - The Chief Assassin to the Sinister (1995)61. The Blood Brothers - Young Machetes (2006)
60. Los Campesinos! - Romance Is Boring (2010)59. Dashboard Confessional - The Places You Have Come to Fear the Most (2001)58. Jejune - This Afternoon's Malady (1998)57. The Hotelier - Home, Like Noplace Is There (2014)56. Paramore - Brand New Eyes (2009)55 (TIE). Rainer Maria - Look Now Look Again (1999)55 (TIE). Jawbreaker - Dear You (1995)53 (TIE). The Weakerthans - Left and Leaving (2000)53 (TIE). Shudder to Think - Pony Express Record (1994)51. Death Cab for Cutie - We Have the Facts and We're Voting Yes (2000)50. My Chemical Romance - Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge (2004)49. Sunny Day Real Estate - The Rising Tide (2000)48. Hum - Downward Is Heavenward (1997)47. The Get Up Kids - Four Minute Mile (1997)46. Gospel - The Moon Is a Dead World (2005)45. Thursday - No Devolución (2011)44. Cursive - The Ugly Organ (2003)43. The Dismemberment Plan - Change (2001)42. Bright Eyes - Fevers and Mirrors (2000)41. Crying - Beyond the Fleeting Gales (2016)
40. Julien Baker - Sprained Ankle (2015)39. Bright Eyes - Lifted or The Story Is in the Soil, Keep Your Ear to the Ground (2002)38. Coheed and Cambria - The Second Stage Turbine Blade (2002)37. Converge - Jane Doe (2001)36. Jawbox - For Your Own Special Sweetheart (1994)35. Thursday - War All the Time (2003)34. Texas Is the Reason - Do You Know Who You Are? (1996)33. The Blood Brothers - ...Burn, Piano Island, Burn (2003)32. Fall Out Boy - Folie à deux (2008)31. Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy (1994)30. Sunny Day Real Estate - LP2 (1995)29. Death Cab for Cutie - Transatlanticism (2003)28. Juno - This Is the Way It Goes and Goes and Goes (1999)27 (TIE). The Appleseed Cast - Mare Vitalis (2000)27 (TIE). At the Drive‐In - In/Casino/Out (1998)25 (TIE). The Appleseed Cast - Low Level Owl (2001)25 (TIE). Paramore - Paramore (2013)23. Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime (1994)22. Brand New - Deja Entendu (2003)21. The Anniversary - Designing a Nervous Breakdown (2000)
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 10 March 2017 08:15 (seven years ago) link
Liking the Appleseed Cast stuff a lot. On Reflection currently making me levitate. Reminds me of a cracking and criminally underheard Scottish band from a few years back called There Will Be Fireworks.― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski)
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski)
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 10 March 2017 12:19 (seven years ago) link
(I mean the Fireworks band of course; I've been enjoying Appleseed Cast for years.)
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 10 March 2017 12:22 (seven years ago) link
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51UmJJJOOaL.jpg20. Fugazi - Repeater (1990)306 points, 8 votes
― Mordy, Friday, 10 March 2017 13:23 (seven years ago) link
1, 2, 3, ...
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 10 March 2017 13:25 (seven years ago) link
i arbitrarily hated all emo in high school until i saw the video for "sic transit gloria" on mtv2, then my taste slowly reshuffled over the next few years
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2017 13:25 (seven years ago) link
Another great album I didn't feel right voting for!
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 10 March 2017 13:26 (seven years ago) link
yeah i couldn't vote for any fugazi
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2017 13:27 (seven years ago) link
Not emo, but it's classic and I voted for it. Feel like I should've nominated The Argument and stuff
― ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 10 March 2017 13:29 (seven years ago) link
classic, didn't vote for it
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 March 2017 13:33 (seven years ago) link
Was Trail of Dead nominated? Or will I get a thread ban for even asking that?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 10 March 2017 13:36 (seven years ago) link
I thought about nominating the first two albums!
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 March 2017 13:38 (seven years ago) link
Seeing the roll-out the scope of what ilm considers emo is so broad, ST&C would've fit nicely imo (emo).
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 10 March 2017 13:55 (seven years ago) link
I listened to The Argument for the first time in the run up to this. Tremendous album!
― cajunsunday, Friday, 10 March 2017 13:56 (seven years ago) link
first two tod albums def have emo embedded in them
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2017 13:58 (seven years ago) link
yeah, "Richter Scale Madness," "Half of What," "Mistakes and Regrets," "A Perfect Teenhood" all emo af, it's just that nagging SY influence that stands in their way
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 March 2017 13:59 (seven years ago) link
not to mention "Sigh Your Children" which is an extremely lolemo way to end a record
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:00 (seven years ago) link
A Perfect Teenhood is more emo than most of this poll haha
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:01 (seven years ago) link
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51OO8gRmfHL.jpg19. Cursive - Domestica (2000)312 points, 8 votes
― Mordy, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:01 (seven years ago) link
fuck yeah
this was the predictive (and retrospective) thematic strk for the worst period of my life, so of course I voted for it highly
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:03 (seven years ago) link
awesome, another discovery that made my top ten.
― devvvine, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:04 (seven years ago) link
really curious if rites of spring & still life are gonna show up or if they got 101'd
― gr8080, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:06 (seven years ago) link
RoS for sure
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:06 (seven years ago) link
TO PROVE YOU STILL FEELYOU ONLY FEELSORRY FOR YOURSELF
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:08 (seven years ago) link
still life def got 101d
from angry heads with skyward eyes is a classic 4ever tho
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:09 (seven years ago) link
one of the starkest and most stressful rock albums ever, no relief or release at all (or when it comes it feels mocking)
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:10 (seven years ago) link
You're really selling it Simon!
― cajunsunday, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:16 (seven years ago) link
I mean, it also rocks and has riffs and stuff
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:18 (seven years ago) link
lol just realised we still have meadowlands coming up
― devvvine, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:20 (seven years ago) link
yeah I think I know 15 of the remaining slots, the rest are mysterious to me
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:21 (seven years ago) link
http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_500/MI0002/542/MI0002542279.jpg18. Braid - Frame & Canvas (1998)316 points, 7 votes
― Mordy, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:37 (seven years ago) link
WAY too low
― gr8080, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:38 (seven years ago) link
oh whoops forgot that one lol
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 March 2017 14:39 (seven years ago) link
this album comes so close to being too clever for its own good so many times but just barely stays course
― gr8080, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:41 (seven years ago) link
also this post-reunion braid track would be high on my tracks ballot https://youtu.be/BF4r32HxhFs
― gr8080, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:42 (seven years ago) link
Don't sleep on No Coast either
― gr8080, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:43 (seven years ago) link