haha I knew you would come through here
― sleeve, Thursday, 20 April 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link
i have tried to think of things that were HATED/dismissed that i love and its kinda hard to think of examples. i mostly just liked a lot of stuff that was ignored and that people ended up liking later. because of my trailblazer status.
i am a terrible late-period fan though. i am happy to ignore decades of work and just listen to the 2 or 3 albums by an artist that are best.
i did enjoy that saints album someone mentioned above. they played that a lot on college radio and even mtv.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 April 2017 15:33 (seven years ago) link
that saints album probably got a good review in rolling stone.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 April 2017 15:34 (seven years ago) link
The Saints - All Fools Day seemed pretty well regarded from what I remember. So was Big Time, it's just hard to find these days. Even harder to find is the movie it came from.
I have many that no one cares about, but this one seems to draw plenty of ire - Razorlight - Up All Night. Once I saw Razorlight live I understood the hate. The lead singer (I forget his name) was such a punchable d-bag. But for that one album (and some good B-sides), it was an entertaining attempt to approximate Richard Hell-era Television and Patti Smith.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 20 April 2017 15:49 (seven years ago) link
absolutely love the God Bless Tiny Tim album but i think that is well-regarded. i listened to the first Presidents of the United States recently and it was still amazing. i think most people see them as a joke but imo they have really good Everly Bros-style close harmonies and the use of only a few strings per instrument is an intriguing, minimalist version of pop punk. but with a 60s surf rock/psychedelic/garage influence. via the 90s. damn i love POTUSA.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 April 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link
i felt bad when i went on a wire thread and people were talking about how they liked the new album and i listened to it and went uhhhhhhhhh wire fans are really nice to wire....
whereas i am happy with 2nd album, 3rd album, kidney bingos once a year, ahead once a year, big black's heartbeat cover once a year and everything that colin did in the 80's. but, you know, they changed my life.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 April 2017 15:55 (seven years ago) link
if only Green Day and POTUSA's careers had switched places. we would have Shia Lebouf doing "Peaches" on Broadway.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 April 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link
Just remembered, I think Worlds Apart destroyed Trail of Dead's chances of having any lasting (relatively) mainstream success and/or indie cred but I love that record lol
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link
think it's been largely rehabilitated tbh
― imago, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:07 (seven years ago) link
i listened to the first Presidents of the United States recently and it was still amazing. i think most people see them as a joke but imo they have really good Everly Bros-style close harmonies and the use of only a few strings per instrument is an intriguing, minimalist version of pop punk. but with a 60s surf rock/psychedelic/garage influence. via the 90s. damn i love POTUSA.
yea I've not encountered another album that sounds quite like that. the other day "Boll Weevil" came up on shuffle and I remember being kind of floored by it, it sounded great. they have such a strange tuning, which I think is because they never really knew how to play.
shame they only really got their 15 minutes. their later albums aren't quite as good though I really do like Freaked Out & Small, which I think is a good candidate for this thread. I was a pretty big fan of the band and I had no idea the album existed until years later when I stumbled upon it in a used CD shop. I thought it was a bootleg at first. There were almost no reviews and the ones that came out were mostly like "these guys used to be fun". But it's great, track-for-track even better than the first album, IMHO of course
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:13 (seven years ago) link
I'll also mention the first three Starcastle albums here - that band took a pounding critically, and for good reason really, but I can't help but grin all the way through those records.
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link
haha a friend of mine recently turned me on to those albums, Styx-lite but in a good way!
― sleeve, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:38 (seven years ago) link
there seems to be something about film scores which are not acclaimed by the fans. i both like yo la tengo's quite meditative "they shoot, we score" and sonic youth "made in usa" quite a bit. they both fetch ratings around 2.8-2.9 at rateyourmusic. not my fave albums by two of my fave bands but by no stretch bad and a very nice change from their other albums.
― Alex in Spree-Athen (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link
Limp Bizkit's imperial phase is pretty much undeniable
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:02 (seven years ago) link
I'm a big fan of White Zombie's Astro-Creep 2000, which was pretty popular at the time I guess, but I don't think it was critically acclaimed much.
― silverfish, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
One of my favorite bands is a relatively unknown from the mid 90s called milf so I can imagine that deterring people who might love them otherwise.
― Evan, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link
absolutely love the God Bless Tiny Tim album but i think that is well-regarded.
Of course it is, it's a classic.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link
someone mentioned fiery furnace brother album above and it reminded me that last week in the car rufus put on a later FF album and i had a mental mantra in my head of *i still like blueberry boat i still like blueberry boat*. it was driving me up a wall. a car wall. a door, really. driving me up a door.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link
you were both a passenger and the driver
― Evan, Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link
remembered Razorlight as complete Kings of Leon shite, so pleasantly surprised to put on the album on Spotify and find the Television comparison not wholly off
― niels, Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
I'm a little surprised Cardiacs haven't been mentioned yet.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:25 (seven years ago) link
Heh, you might have heard Razorlight's self-titled second album the first time. While most of Up All Night is pretty meandering, "Golden Touch" is a genuinely great song.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link
No-one loves them, they don't care (xp)
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 April 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link
Leonard Cohen - Death of a Ladies' Man. I unironically think it's his best album.
The Books - Lost and SafeFor me it's not only their best by a wide margin...
For me it's not only their best by a wide margin...
I agree with this 100%
― J. Sam, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link
i can't make it through an entire Cardiacs song let alone an album. i don't know how people do it. i've tried on the youtube before. i've never made it through an entire zappa album either though. and i've never mustered up the courage to listen to an oingo boingo album or a mr. bungle album.
how many people are listening to oingo boingo in the world right now? i'd love to know. 6 people? more than 6?
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link
There was a point in my life when Oingo Boingo was my favorite band. In my defense I was a high schooler in LA and they were pretty good live. Haven't listened to them in years, but perhaps Elfman's later career suggests there was more to them compositionally than they got credit for. That's all I got.
― o. nate, Thursday, 20 April 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link
I think this too (high five) and was thinking of posting it but I wasn't sure if ppl would complain that it actually *is* acclaimed or something. Among Leonard Cohen diehards it doesn't seem especially well-regarded. I think it's amazing.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 April 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link
wtf is this shit just in the air these days? chaki tweeted yesterday about how Riotfest should get OB to reunite (lol) and then I woke up this morning with "Private Life" in my head. I don't even like this fucking band...
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 April 2017 21:29 (seven years ago) link
cardiacs have a growing and by-now considerable cult following and a not insignificant critical cachet. they have guardian articles written about them and sing to god is a bona fide rym nerd rite of passage. compared to all the bands or albums that were critically loathed AND then forgotten they've got it good imo (and their stock will continue to rise)
i see this thread as more for stuff each of us will end up being nigh on the last/only fan of, stuff that everyone else has dismissed
― imago, Thursday, 20 April 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link
DOALM is amazing.
Oingo Boingo is awesome and Elfman is a beast. before the band split he had already scored Batman, Edward Scissorhands, Pee Wee, Beetlejuice, and Forbidden Zone. in addition to songs in movies like "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" and "Back to School". they were kind of the official party band of the 80s.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:36 (seven years ago) link
death of a ladies man is incredible and definitely one of the best cohen albums imo
I don't even know if it is maligned anymore, seems like it has entered "here, my dear" territory of critical flops that have since been reappraised
― marcos, Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:59 (seven years ago) link
love - four sail (i like it so much better than forever changes)every oingo boingo album
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:02 (seven years ago) link
yeah, no offense to boingo or cardiacs fans. that frenetic circus thing is just really hard for me. which i thought of because of that fiery furnaces incident in the car.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:11 (seven years ago) link
four sail is great but it's true that it was kinda considered a dud for years. or just not listened to much. i like reel-to-real and false start too. and there was definitely a time in my life when out here was my fave love album.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:14 (seven years ago) link
i have no idea what reviews of later Love albums were like. i must have read some in old magazines at some point. should check rolling stone.
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:15 (seven years ago) link
"Reel to Real" is definitely less acclaimed than "Four Sail". I like it!
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:26 (seven years ago) link
Has Dylan's Self Portrait been rehabilitated? There was that box set... I definitely love it, even the Paul Simon cover
― a but (brimstead), Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:33 (seven years ago) link
boingo became a mature pop act after the early circus stuff but critics and fans alike also hated that stuff (its my fave)
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:40 (seven years ago) link
I really love "Common One" by Van Morrison but I'm not sure it's that panned, it's just kinda slept on
― Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:55 (seven years ago) link
There's definitely something of the Boingo that persists in my "mature" listening habits - and a high tolerance for "frenetic circus" music is part of it. Only now I get my demented fun-house kicks from bands like Hail Spirit Noir and Ghost.
― o. nate, Friday, 21 April 2017 01:27 (seven years ago) link
Can't believe somebody already mentioned How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb! Well, I guess I can because I think it's very good, but I never see love for it on ILM. At this point, probably my third favorite U2 album after Achtung Baby and Zooropa
Wrath by the band Iris is another one. Synth pop by two guys who obviously dig the shit out of Depeche Mode and I think this album is up there with some of DM's best
― Vinnie, Friday, 21 April 2017 02:20 (seven years ago) link
there was also a weird time in my life when no guru no method no teacher was my favorite van morrison album and i have no idea what people think of that one. or if its even talked about or rated or whatever. i loved it.
― scott seward, Friday, 21 April 2017 03:37 (seven years ago) link
but now i quickly check and it got five stars by david fricke in rs so i guess people liked.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/no-guru-no-method-no-teacher-19860911
― scott seward, Friday, 21 April 2017 03:38 (seven years ago) link
In the Stereolab poll I had Chemical Chords at #2 in my albums list. It's hardly reviled, but the consensus seems to be that they'd gotten too ornate by that point. I think it's really lovely.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 21 April 2017 05:10 (seven years ago) link
Air - 10,000 Hz. Legend
― J. Sam, Friday, 21 April 2017 05:34 (seven years ago) link
I really enjoyed and still love Pet Shop Boys' 'Relentless' EP which had a mixed reaction at the time and is now basically forgotten.
― yesca, Friday, 21 April 2017 06:00 (seven years ago) link
The Farrah Abraham album
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 21 April 2017 06:50 (seven years ago) link
I definitely malign it. I'm a massive Cohen fan but DoaLM is by some distance his weakest album.
― heaven parker (anagram), Friday, 21 April 2017 07:22 (seven years ago) link
My answer to this would be whichever 10,000 Maniacs album is least acclaimed – Blind Man's Zoo, probably.
― heaven parker (anagram), Friday, 21 April 2017 07:23 (seven years ago) link
any wing-tip sloat.they were largely ignored & dismissed as lesser than trumans water / pavement / polvo, they had some gorgeous scrappy mathy bits thempered with a blithe tossed off sensibility. would've been more at home on ron johnson records than vhf, and to my mind you can hear the REACH. and that counts for something.Also Qui's "love's miracle", w/ d yow guesting on vocals. I remember people throwing their toys out of their prams that this didn't sound exactly like birthday party tribute act "the jesus lizard" .to my mind it sounds better, and qui's subsequent yow-less "life, water, living" disappeared with barely a whisper, but is the perfect mix of the method actors, shudder to think pony express record, the melvins, and something ineffably them (vaudeville sensibility?)
― massaman gai, Friday, 21 April 2017 08:04 (seven years ago) link