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that interview is great!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 May 2017 01:31 (seven years ago) link

like

Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 25 May 2017 14:27 (seven years ago) link

dud

yesca, Thursday, 25 May 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

Okay so last year there was this excellent, really great piece by Mark Andrews on the first years of the band, up to the release of "Alice," featuring interviews with Mr. Eldritch, Jon Langford, etc. Lengthy, detailed, essential

http://thequietus.com/articles/21215-sisters-of-mercy-leeds-andrew-eldritch-interview

The sequel just ran today -- interviews with Gary Marx, Wayne Hussey and Craig Adams, covering "Alice" up through "Temple of Love."

http://thequietus.com/articles/23082-sisters-of-mercy-interview-wayne-hussey-craig-adams-gary-marx

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link

I loved the first part and enjoyed this part even more; gripped from start to finish. 1983 was also my entry point to the world of The Sisters.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link

Awesome!!!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link

Enjoyed these. Now I'm reading interviews and came across this:

One time someone came to me and said there is a major scene in a film with these guys in a car driving down a boulevard with them singing one of your songs whilst that happens and I was, ‘well ok’ and I asked for the script and I thought that this is a fucking terrible film. It turned out that is was the scene in Wayne’s World where they are singing Bohemian Rhapsody and originally they wanted This Corrosion!
But for me a bunch of American morons singing my song in a Japanese car is not an exact reflection of what the song was about!

lol, is this common knowledge?

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

Ha, that's new to me.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

i hit leeds in oct'86, so this era was over - sort of.
the hangover from the band loomed heavy where ever you went.
their influence over the city was palpable.
hence why at the time AOC for me felt fresh and new with their go-go styled covers and hip hop/noise collision.
however, both of these articles have been absolutely brilliant and kickstarted a revisit of their early days releases.
'some girls wander by mistake' compiles a lot of the music mentioned - if only we could have a remastered edition.

mark e, Thursday, 31 August 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

There is no way that Wayne's World story is accurate.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 August 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

chatted to geoff t/aoc re the article as he clearly knew a lot of this gang.

i asked if he had ever visted the house :

"Nah, would never have dreamt of going to The House tbh...sounds all mythological in that piece (as does all of it) but it was in reality a 2-up 2 down back-to-back behind the Co-Op on Cardigan Road - both inhabitants were signing-on...it wasn't that enticing tbh.

I recall the era well though...I met Neil & Steve in 82....we played a debut gig in 83, so all the way along the early days the Sisters were the Leeds Indie band who'd been wherever before we had...paying live say, or getting a single paid for, studio sessions etc etc. It was a useful guide to have tbh...it indicated what was immediately possible.
"

mark e, Friday, 1 September 2017 09:27 (six years ago) link

There is no way that Wayne's World story is accurate.

Seemed far-fetched, it's funny that he would say it though.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 1 September 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link

http://media.rhino.com/press-release/sisters-mercy-some-girls-wander-mistake-boxed-set-available-september-1

(expanded but not remastered?)

StanM, Friday, 1 September 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

!!!

going to have to buy this to finally have a high quality adrenochrome on vinyl. what is "Alice" - 1993 Version like?

i am just going to pretend that wayne's world story is fact from now on. too good.

stirmonster, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link

Alice 1993 is slicker and also quite unnecessary imho.

https://youtu.be/_WqThVvWcsk

StanM, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

i don't have any way to listen just now but will take your word for it.

stirmonster, Friday, 1 September 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link

And then there's

http://thequietus.com/articles/23123-nurse-with-wound-sisters-of-mercy-this-corrosion

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link

Haven't heard it, but there's also this: https://www.discogs.com/Andrew-Liles-First-Monster-Last-Monster-Always-Monster/release/6769332

StanM, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link

Amazing how an article still gets written every time someone puts a song through Paulstretch.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

otm

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 5 September 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link

there's a normal speed part in there too, so it's not just Paulstretch

StanM, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link

FM&LM&AM: it's wrong but it's not bad either:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzt6DVW5pEM

StanM, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

listened to 'temple of love' three times before breakfast this morning. did we ever sort out whether the 1983 or the 1992 version was best?

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Monday, 30 April 2018 14:07 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

I prefer the later version. I'm amazed how many people seem to prefer early Sisters in general but I don't know what the consensus is. If someone had described me both eras I'd think the earlier stuff would be better but after experiencing it all I think from Floodlands onward they are superior in every way. "Under The Gun" is fucking fantastic.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 12 October 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link

Agree. Album-era Sisters > EP-era Sisters.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 12 October 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

Thirded, but I can totally see how early Sisters had more of an impact on the scene.

Siegbran, Friday, 12 October 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

can't imagine anyone rating Vision Thing THAT highly. But sure, First Last and Floodland are amazing.

akm, Sunday, 14 October 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link

I vastly prefer Vision Thing to First Last but Floodlands is their best by miles.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 14 October 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

Some Girls comp >>> Vision Thing

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 14 October 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link

Gift by The Sisterhood is great too btw (other singer but most people don't notice)

StanM, Sunday, 14 October 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

A Slight Case of Overbombing is my favorite Sisters release tbh.

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 14 October 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

Vision Thing is awful

Duke, Sunday, 14 October 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link

INCOMING

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 14 October 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link

Some Girls Wander By Mistake > Floodland >>> FALAA = Vision Thing is how I break it down to an extent

I can't remember what the Sisterhood sounds like tbh

The first SoM I bought was the Temple of Love 1992 CD single when it came out (I was 15 then) and I still love it, unnecessary remix or not.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 15 October 2018 11:36 (five years ago) link

Funny, mine’s the complete opposite:
FALAA >>Floodland>Vision Thing=Some Girls

Siegbran, Monday, 15 October 2018 12:33 (five years ago) link

Crazy. Colonel Poo OTM

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 15 October 2018 12:43 (five years ago) link

Yeah I'm with the good Col on this one although I'd put at least one arrow between some girls and floodland.

Gift probably between those two, although maybe equal with floodland - less identifiably 'songs' but bangers nonetheless.

Body Electric/Adrenochrome is still the most I've spent on a single record (inflation adjusted, and maybe even not).

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Monday, 15 October 2018 13:43 (five years ago) link

vision thing is dumb. has one good song. still wish they'd put out a new album.

akm, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link

I like pre-Album Sisters & Vision Thing better than the first two albums, which is like goth challops in extremis

sarahell, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link

fwiw the first summer I had a driver's license & car I drove around my stupid town blasting Vision Thing on cassette so

sarahell, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link

it was a 15 yr old Mazda 626 and the opposite of "Something Fast"

sarahell, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link

I like FALAA & Vision Thing, just not as much as Floodland & EP era

There were 3 remixed Vision Thing songs on the Temple of Love 1992 EP so I used to listen to those a lot as a teenager. Mostly Vision Thing (the song) iirc.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 15 October 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

I remember being so disappointed and embarrassed when Vision Thing came out.

Duke, Monday, 15 October 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

it doesn't sound like the previous 2 albums, so I can get why someone who loved those would be disappointed. Vision Thing definitely had the ... i don't know what to call it but a lot of albums had it in the late 80s aesthetic ... like it's definitely "of its time"

sarahell, Monday, 15 October 2018 23:35 (five years ago) link

Definitely of its time, but it still *sounds* great. The problem is that the songs are not really there (Doctor Jeep, Detonation Bd) or not as great as Andy seems to think they are (More). Still, Ribbons and I Was Wrong are classics.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 07:42 (five years ago) link

EP-era* > Ribbons > Floodland > FALAA > Rest of Vision Thing

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

Vision Thing reminds me of the Mission frankly, or the Cult. Too rock and roll for me, not enough goth.

akm, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

Goth bands get worse and worse is a p good rule of thumb.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link


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