on listen two now. its pretty cool. at first all the songs sounded the same. now it feels more like waves of sound.
what is that note he always uses w the repeater? that echoey clipped guitar that always leads into a bossa nova? is that a dotted fourth?
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 June 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link
it is mellow af
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 June 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link
on listen two as well. its cool how you can pick out so many sounds that were on the last three albums, but the compositions here are a lot different. not sure what the highlights or duds are, I kinda like the whole thing. in fact my main complaint about the album is that it isn't longer - it sounds so good I don't want it to end. it also occurs to me that this is the first Cornelius album without anything explicitly gimmicky on it, maybe "Helix/Spiral" but that's it.
― frogbs, Friday, 30 June 2017 03:05 (six years ago) link
anyway first impression is that this is not quite as great as Fantasma or Point but probably better than everything else he's done, which is about what I expected
― frogbs, Friday, 30 June 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link
Some of the end of "If You're Here" makes me think of Fripp/Summers. (Possibly a useless observation since it has little to do with the overall song.)
― Louie Ramirez y Sus Blechs (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 30 June 2017 03:30 (six years ago) link
The Rain Song is so great! so prog. folk picking acoustic guitar + buzzing synth drones. really love Surfing on a Mind Wave, Pt. 2 as well
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 30 June 2017 04:54 (six years ago) link
the last track is the one I've been listening on repeat. pretty stunning in a low-key sort of way
definitely think this is a grower
― frogbs, Friday, 30 June 2017 13:11 (six years ago) link
"The Spell of a Vanishing Loveliness" took me aback at first, but he pulls it off. Who's singing with him?
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 30 June 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link
that's Miki from Lush
― ufo, Friday, 30 June 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link
^i was just thinking about the words while listening this morning. someone upthread mentioned his divorce and this feels like a break up song. "my life/my child/this is now everything I am/still that's not enough". really love the pause after this line into "That was yesterday". time moves on. he gets by w a little help from his friends.
this record definitely has a melancholy feeling at times but it's not off-putting at all. more than any other Cornelius album this is a collection of songs rather than styles or sounds.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 1 July 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
Out everywhere today. Cover art wasn't what I was expecting.
― Jeff W, Friday, 21 July 2017 11:03 (six years ago) link
Seems the hype for this died considerably after the leak.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 21 July 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link
I dunno if it's because it wasn't released stateside yet or because Cornelius's star has faded in the last decade or so. The album is very good.
― frogbs, Friday, 21 July 2017 14:12 (six years ago) link
It's pretty good, based on my first listen. I got it from CD Japan along with the new DJ Krush last week. His use of stereo is dazzling, but it also feels like sleight-of-hand after a while -- for me the most fun part about this record is counting time, some of the stuff is super-cerebral. Amazing last track.
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 21 July 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link
think it might be his best-sounding album overall. there's a weird trick where the guitars ring off the walls but all the reverb from the drums and cymbals are clipped off. actually the one thing it reminds me of is Zammuto (from The Books), who produces his records the same way. like you can tell every element was worked on in isolation and then assembled into what you get here. which of course is how he's been making music for two decades now, but the presence of actual songs does make it more interesting this go around.
― frogbs, Friday, 21 July 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link
Listening to this now.
Is Paddy McAloon given a writing credit on "In a Dream?" Because it's essentially "Appetite."
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 21 July 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link
He ranked Steve McQueen #2 on his list of 10 albums everyone needs to hear, so it's absolutely intentional I guess.
http://www.vinylmeplease.com/magazine/cornelius-on-the-10-albums-everyone-needs-to-hear/
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 21 July 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link
i feel that list
― brimstead, Saturday, 22 July 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link
I came on here to say the same thing. It's uncanny.
Only on my first listen but I'm really enjoying this.
― michaellambert, Friday, 28 July 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNJA3AeJS9g
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 21 August 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link
saw him 10 years ago - wound up getting right up to the front so I could see them up close, might have been one of the most impressive shows I've ever seen
― frogbs, Monday, 21 August 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJGNc5VKIFM
incredible new video directed by Keigo for the 7" track.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 06:23 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWpU5csz-kk
LP & cassettes pre-orders shipping now
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 19 January 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
I found this album nice enough but I keep forgetting it exists tbh
― you can make fun of birthday parties all you want (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, 19 January 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link
yea agreed. it's very good though
― frogbs, Friday, 19 January 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
It's pretty bland and the most predictable thing he could have done at this point. All his other albums are better. The various collaborations and things he's done over the past few years are much more enjoyable.
― everything, Friday, 19 January 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link
Yes, especially that salyuxsalyu thing
― you can make fun of birthday parties all you want (ultros ultros-ghali), Friday, 19 January 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link
idk I think it's better than his first two and Sensuous. it's probably his least "interesting" disc but it sounds great. I do kinda wish there was one more good single on it though
and yeah the salyu x salyu disc ruled, that one really got slept on
― frogbs, Friday, 19 January 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link
yeah it's a bit samey but then gain he made Fantasma 20 years ago! and 69/96 years before that. can't do genre hopping forever.
still a really good album. i can't wait to hear it on vinyl. "The Rain Song" is probably my favorite from this
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 19 January 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link
Yeah despite what I posted I'd still like to get a physical copy of it. CD or vinyl whatever. Cassette would be great.
― everything, Friday, 19 January 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link
― brimstead, Friday, 19 January 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link
I wish there were more hooks... or any hooks for that matter
― skip, Saturday, 20 January 2018 07:47 (six years ago) link
Point has a very similar sound but the feel is radically different, and better.
"Tone Twilight Zone" is a very effective interlude but I don't want to hear 45 minutes of it.
― skip, Saturday, 20 January 2018 07:49 (six years ago) link
the first three tracks were a great development on the Point sound but the rest is fairly uninteresting. i haven't come back to it much at all
― ufo, Saturday, 20 January 2018 08:08 (six years ago) link
it's not melodically rich but he's developed a superb sense of sound design (prob. why he works best in collaboration!)
― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link
This "sound design" thing needs to be addressed though. WTF is it supposed to mean? Is he more of a "sound designer" than Metallica, Brian Eno, Billy Childish, Jim Thirwell or literally anyone else who makes a track where a specific philosophy re. the sound is a strong guiding motive? Feels like this has become a genre like "indie" which is now disconnected from the actual definition of the word. Applied to Cornelius, "sound design" seems like a portentous way to describe "Crises"-era Mike Oldfield-inspired production paired with a rather narrow palate of chimes, creaks, rimshots etc (with lots of dramatic stereo effects of course.) As a solo artist, Cornelius has painted himself into a corner with this stuff.
― everything, Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
he does one thing and he does it extremely well. if lack of variety is a bad thing in a listener's book, cornelius will never be more than a second rate talent at best. personally i'm not bothered about his limitations.
― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:10 (six years ago) link
He only does one thing NOW. His mid-late 90s stuff was all over the place. It's disappointing how narrow his range has ended up.
― everything, Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link
i don't get it, is he supposed to somehow break the rule that every musician from the dawn of time has succumbed to? people get old, they get conservative. artists's experimental bent naturally becomes more refined with time. compared Bob Dylan 1966 to 1986. what a slacker, right. painted himself into a corner. Paul McCartney wrote "Yesterday" in 1965 and twenty years later he made Give My Regards to Broad Street.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 21 January 2018 12:28 (six years ago) link
hey I'm just saying what everyone else here seems to be dancing around - that it's quite a boring album - a disappointment. No doubt a month after Give My Regards To Broad Street came out lots of McCartney fans were observing that the hype had mysteriously died and that they weren't returning to the album much, despite the awesome sound design.
― everything, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:00 (six years ago) link
Conservative and refined doesn't have to lead to boring.
― skip, Sunday, 21 January 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
i'm listening to it more than i am to a lot of the other 2017 records i liked... but maybe i am a boring person!
i also don't think that "mellow waves" is any more stylistically limited as an album than "fantasma" was, once you strip away all of the stuff he nicked from other people. i mean maybe mellow waves would be a better album if he put more effort into ripping off sampha or daniel caesar but it doesn't quite seem like a fair criticism to make?
i think the eno point of reference is an interesting one. i've found pretty much everything eno's done since "my squelchy life" to be really tediously dull, but i haven't had that experience with cornelius. chacun à son goût i guess?
― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Sunday, 21 January 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link
feel like i agree that "it's boring" but it doesn't matter, in fact, i like it. the album is called Mellow Waves so i would just change" boring" to "mellow".
fwiw this year i finally started listening in earnest to Steely Dan and soft rock for the first time in my life, maybe i am turning in a boring old fart lol. if i want to blow my brains out i can always thrown on "Ball In-Kick Off" this stuff will do nicely
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link
I'd take an entire album of that guitar solo on "If You're Here." It's a good record, but there are too many filler tracks, which I'll admit he's always seemed fond of, and not enough content.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link
the guitar solo on if you're here is one of my favourite things he's done
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link
my vinyl copy showed up friday, im listening this morning. it's really good hangover music
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 28 January 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link
Sounding very nice on my stereo, glad I don't have to stream it anymore. I forgot how much "In a Dream" sounds like Prefab Sprout's "Appetite."
― geoffreyess, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:13 (six years ago) link
they are on tour right now. saw some cool photos of them playing in Mexico a few days ago. also this!
https://i.imgur.com/jks8CZn.png
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 March 2018 03:33 (six years ago) link
got to say a Mac Demarco/Cornelius split EP would be a sweet thing to hear.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 March 2018 03:35 (six years ago) link
there's also Constellations of Music, which is basically CM5 but does contain a few original tracks on it (including two by salyu x salyu, one of which is a great cover of "Hammond Song")
wow, this "hammond song" cover!!
otoh, yeah, this new cornelius album is pretty boring, huh? wish he'd just work with salyu more instead tbh. there's some cool stuff on here but the laid back arrangements make his weak vox stick out kinda uncomfortably imo.
how's the live show these days?
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 5 March 2018 04:31 (six years ago) link