The Hissing of Summer Lawns: a poll

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tl;dr even though hejira is her most realized record-as-soundworld the in-betweenness of hissing is what draws me to it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 April 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link

This is my favorite too. “Oh well, just another hard time band with negro affectations” = such a great line that you could never get away with now, although I don’t *think* she meant anything problematic by it (if anything she’s calling out the white dudes)

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Sunday, 1 April 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link

I'm pretty sure Hejira is ur fav Joni record...

Edith is correct as poll-winner, surprised to see seven votes for The Jungle Line, removing that song would make the album better in my challenging opinion

― niels

it's not on the demos record, which was how i got into the record. the demos also has "dreamland" and less skunk baxter.

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:50 (six years ago) link

I am looking that demos record up now, remember the Edith demo from Tyler's rarities piece, was great

I guess it's not the first time the Joni/SD comparison has been brought up here Literate Jazz-Pop TS: Steely Dan vs. Joni Mitchell 1974-1980

There is a sense of freedom in Joni's work, in her phrasing and the melodies she writes, which is absent in SD, which is obv very very controlled, a different kind of jazz. I think the only other artist that I am familiar with who explored similar territory is Van Morrison.

niels, Sunday, 1 April 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link

oh yeah and Brad otm btw, was just teasing, Hissing is probably the Joni record I've spent most time with in the past few years, probably her best album title

niels, Sunday, 1 April 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link

a storyteller observing her characters with an eye that isn't detached or unsympathetic but still doesn't interfere emotionally with what's already happening, allowing the scene to develop almost of its own accord. i hear the word "honesty" associated with joni's work a lot and i think this is really the form of honesty she deals in, a kind of pop flannery o'connor, characters so completely realized that their feelings power them toward their fates.

Booming post.

Tim F, Monday, 2 April 2018 02:25 (six years ago) link

The Jungle Line is the eye-of-the-duck of the album. Makes me think of African Nite Flight off of Bowie's Lodger.

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 09:43 (six years ago) link

One of my favourite ephemeral moments on this album is the opening phrase 'He bought her a diamond for her throat' - it's the phrasing on that last little 'for-her-throat', sounds like a flute line, like something Mancini would have played or something.

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 10:13 (six years ago) link

yes - incredible delivery on that line

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 3 April 2018 11:45 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

Never gave this one any time and now...now I'm in love.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

but...will she love you?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link

I will take my chances.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link

I'd have picked "Don't Interrupt the Sorrow" or maybe "Sweet Bird". I'm surprised to see all the admiration for "The Boho Dance", it always struck me as unremarkable.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

I love the balls out confidence to place ‘The Jungle Line’ as the second track on this album...it’s such a jarring jumpcut it really disturbed me for such a long time, but now see it as someone so in control of their artistic vision...breathtaking...consequently I have a penchant for weird/off kilter second tracks

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Sunday, 11 April 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

I think it's her best album. Everything is lockdown inflected now but I listened to this in what feels like the briefest of window of being able to listen to music in public spaces and it utterly transformed me and the dull urban space I was occupying at the time.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 11 April 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link

"The Jungle Line" was the song that got me into Joni Mitchell. I was into Bow Wow Wow at the time and I immediately recognized the "Jungle Line" beat as a Bow Wow Wow beat played at half tempo.

Josefa, Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link

I agree that it's hard to imagine these ten songs in any other order.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link

today is the day this album really clicked for me. thanks, thread!

lukas, Monday, 12 April 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link

It’s funny: this record’s sonic influence is strikingly all over Kate Bush’s “Never For Ever” but I’ve never read a KB interview where she gives Joni M more than a passing acknowledgment.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 10:02 (three years ago) link


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