Pretty Fly was just written mainly to appeal to middle schoolers methinks. and high schoolers--my high school freaking played the song every day on their morning news show.
I'll admit I laughed out loud during the intro to the song the first time I heard it but it didn't take long for me to realize that the chorus was really stupid
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Of course it's kind of stupid, some of the rhymes they choose etc. But then they are great because so-called "wiggers" deserve all the mocking and dissing they can get.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 00:27 (sixteen years ago) link
is wiggerdom really that rampant in Norway?
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 00:31 (sixteen years ago) link
'Time of Your Life' assaulted me again at a crappy Irish bar on Sunday, I suppose I was asking for just by being there, but I've never been subject to bad acoustic Offspring covers in theme bars...
― S-, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 01:12 (sixteen years ago) link
But then they are great because so-called "wiggers" deserve all the mocking and dissing they can get.
Why?
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link
BECAUSE WHITE PEOPEL SHOULD BE LISTENING TO YES!1!11
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 01:28 (sixteen years ago) link
In what way? Granted I know you didn't say you liked the song necessarily, but Pretty Fly is a gimmick tune that was yes, funny on first listen, irritating by the third, and really has nothing going for it outside of its novelty. The melody is crap.
Green Day, I will admit to not being a fan of...however for the most part they write listenable pop-punk and at the very least when they got semi-gimmicky ("Hitchin' a Ride") it was listenable and entertaining.
The melody's fine IMO. Pretty generic riff, yes, but catchy.
I think Green Day are unlistenable and not entertaining even when they're not being gimmicky. "Basket Case" is the closest thing to a good tune they've released and it's even more cookie-cutter than "Pretty Fly."
― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I might also add that I heard Weird Al's parody of "Pretty Fly" before the original. I don't really focus on the lyrics.
― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 01:52 (sixteen years ago) link
to each his own I suppose. I wouldn't have even found Pretty Fly entertaining at all if not for the spoof of pop club music at the beginning.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link
this thread is bonkers
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 02:10 (sixteen years ago) link
bonkers i tell you
bonkers!
Here comes the rain again falling from the stars
Of all the sins these bands are guilty of, Green Day's poor grasp of meteorology pisses me off the most.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link
It's just insane to me that these bands had so many singles and so much success. Why couldn't it have happened for Bad Religion in their heyday instead? Neither of these bands has written a tune that I find as engaging as anything off Suffer.
― Nate Carson, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 03:30 (sixteen years ago) link
there's no "offspring's entire catalogue" option. though green day have made a run at them with recent albums, offspring are the kings of this castle. "self esteem" makes me wanna puke.
― pipecock, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 03:51 (sixteen years ago) link
well Nate I do agree Bad Religion destroys them both (I love BR) but they had at least moderate success for a little while. not like either other group, but hey, Graffins words were too big for the middle schoolers!
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link
I like green day. Even that one. But that one I don't really know as well.
I'm voting "Ob la di, ob la da" by The Osspringf.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Black people should too.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link
I wouldn't have even found Pretty Fly entertaining at all if not for the spoof of pop club music at the beginning.
You are aware the beginning is sampled from Def Leppard, right?
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Has to be "Why Don't You Get a Job?" Nothing in the Green Day catalogue even comes close.
― Boxing Kangaroo, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
That one was the BEST single by either until Green Day released "Boulevard Of Broken Dreams".
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link
,,,for a white guy
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't mean the "very" beginning, I mean when it goes "give it to me baby, uh huh uh huh". That unter gleeben part, duh, I own Pyromania!
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 23:22 (sixteen years ago) link
OMG WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER RACES UR RACIST RACIST RACISTSSDFAALJDKDA
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link
alright now worst single by Weezer thread.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link
I belonged to one of those middle-school classes that had to sing "Time of Your Life" at graduation. Apparently, those who gave the song the "okay" did not know the "good riddance" part of the title. Totally obnoxious lump of turd, anyway. I like Green Day when they're singing about pot and masturbation. None of this violin shit.
I kinda wish "Special Delivery" were a single so I could vote for it. Since it's not, "Pretty Fly" wins/loses.
I didn't know that was Redman on "Original Prankster" until this thread. I'm not sure how to feel about this. Confused? Crushed?
― babyalive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 02:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― ILX System, Monday, 31 December 2007 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Offspring blows this one away with 49 votes of hatred spread over eight songs, Green Day 19 votes over seven songs. The message is clear. My only question is, who voted for "Warning" and why? It's a pleasant little ditty with a nice hook that was barely ever played - so I'm curious what aspect of it could have aroused such loathing.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 03:41 (sixteen years ago) link
49 for Offspring and 18 for Green Day. My vote for the Saints was really a vote for U2. I didn't find Green Day's participation as bothersome.
― Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 05:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Now he's getting a tattooYeah he's getting ink done
truly the
Well I heard mister Young sing about herWell, I heard ole Neil put her down
of its time
― e herbiest unum (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 July 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
ughhhhhhhhhhhh "yeah, he's Gettin' Ink Done" some of the worst delivery ever in a ubiquitous novelty hit
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 22 July 2011 13:47 (twelve years ago) link
always heard it as "getting it done", although that's no better. song's pretty racist really.
― Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Friday, 22 July 2011 13:55 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, it always had this vague air of "KNOW YOUR PLACE, WHITEY" that rubbed me the wrong way. Probably the cracker version of Ice Cube's "Stay True To The Game"
― jay r?tard (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
GD: Wake Me Up When September Ends
This is the worst one though.
― Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
Even though I'd take Green Day over Offspring any day of the week.
It's not just "know your place, Whitey" it's also "look at you trying to be all LOLblack and stuff. Why do you want to associate yourself with that stuff when you should be listening to rubbish pop punk music?".
― Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
Then again, it's a reflection of the attitude a lot of rock kids had around that time anyway - people throwing bottles of pish whenever a rapper or pop act dared to grace the stage at Reading etc..
― Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
man apparently i missed some really terrible offspring singles after "white guy."
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
Huh, always took it as a little more like "We, the Offspring and our fans (born largely after 1980 and well-accustomed to hip-hop) look down on this character as an outsider faker trying to pull it off." Not really better, mind you, but it never seemed like Holland and co looked down on black culture, just that they thought they were hipper to it than they probably were.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 22 July 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
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i mean, also, in 1978 with DISCO SUCKS, and 1988 with RAP IS CRAP and 2003 with whatever shitty Victory Records band was trying to TAKE THE ROCK BACK
― jay r?tard (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, race politics aside, "Pretty Fly" was basically a rant against "posers," which is understandable, but it's not like their own scene wasn't just brimming with posers of all stripes.
Could have done the JNCO-era version of this if they wantedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pKkOOQR7_o
― jay r?tard (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 July 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
2003 with whatever shitty Victory Records band was trying to TAKE THE ROCK BACK
This was a thing?
― Walter Galt, Friday, 22 July 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
it was actually 2005/6, if i remember correctly, but there was a concerted effort by victory's pr people to get hawthorne heights to beat ne-yo to the number one spot.
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i didn't remember the details, but thats what i was talking abt.
― jay r?tard (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
i can't remember if that was the same year pretty rickey spanked the shins, but it was a good time for pop r&b acts slapping down the dreams of indie bands.
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 22 July 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
The Kids Aren't Alright is a kool song
― DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED (Princess TamTam), Friday, 22 July 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
who the fuck voted basket case
― 69, Friday, 22 July 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
Boulevard of Broken Dreams
― iatee, Friday, 22 July 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
Man, it didn't get any votes or hate above, but man am I glad that "Gone Away" has basically disappeared from the radio landscape etc. If one good thing came out of the demise of alt-rock it was the purging of that particular kind of late-90s gritty loud dirge. In its moment it was played I think once every fifteen to twenty minutes and one could have easily believed that it would never ... go away.
― Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 15 July 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link