wowwww @ the full length version of 'Boy In A Suitcase' - still digging into these studio sessions, some incredible stuff here
― sleeve, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 01:49 (five years ago) link
uh
https://www.side-line.com/150-minutes-of-previously-unreleased-coil-recordings-on-swanyard-3lp-vinyl-and-2cd-set/
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:55 (five years ago) link
Spastiche (5:42) Heaven’s 98 Horror mst (11:52) Siminon Master Backwards (Swanyard demo) (6:28) Jhon’s House Tune from GM Guide – Protection (5:36) Spastiche (basic) (6:46) AYOR Master (It’s in my Blood) (6:40) Original Amber Rain (demo) (4:51) Wur CLK Wir 1993 (2:05) Crumb Tune (master) (6:00) The March of Time (extra version) (8:56) Spastiche – The Night’s alive (master) (5:34) Kusnir Jazz (2:39) Heavens Blade (John Balance vox demo) (7:25) Wur CLK Wir 1998 mst vox (18:35) The Test early mst (2:17) AYOR (extra version) (4:29) Elves (master) (6:35) Heaven’s Blade (Inst) 1993 (8:24) Melotron Song (amber rain demo) (2:51) March of more Time (master) 1993 (6:27) Crumb Tune (4:20) Simon (extra long) (6:10) Egyptian Basses 1993 (7:18)
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 11 April 2019 14:56 (five years ago) link
Wow. I hope this isn't too limited, as I can't afford this at the moment!
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:05 (five years ago) link
looks like a regular release:
https://stormingthebase.bandcamp.com/merch/coil-swanyard-2cd-digipak
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:27 (five years ago) link
That will do.
Meantime, Thighpaulsandra is apparently continuing the Live series:
https://www.thighpaulsandra.co.uk/store/p193/COIL_LIVE_FIVE_%28Pre-order%29.html
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2019 02:23 (five years ago) link
Anyway I do think it's interesting how Hyde and McDowall are essentially reclaiming the mid 90's legacy in different ways. (The latter strictly via specific reissues, granted.)
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2019 02:25 (five years ago) link
Also, Hyde allegedly has *another* archival release coming, an expanded version of The Gay Man's Guide To Safer Sex tracks:
https://www.discogs.com/Coil-The-Gay-Mans-Guide-To-Safer-Sex-2/release/13504410
Per a note appended:
Hello everyone, just to reassure you, this is an official release, licensed from Danny Hyde, released with his blessing, with HQ files + a CD version for those who like it like that. We can't wait for this to come out, when we get a release date we'll let you know. Thanks ! Ed @ Musique Pour La Danse
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2019 02:27 (five years ago) link
Said label's site:
https://shop.mentalgroove.ch/
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2019 02:41 (five years ago) link
I'm not sure whether a new Coil release being "licensed from Danny Hyde" necessarily makes it official at this point. Who knows where the rights lie.
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Sunday, 21 April 2019 06:16 (five years ago) link
https://archive.org/details/JhonnToKlaus
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 21 April 2019 11:48 (five years ago) link
Thought it was discussed upthread but no, at this point nothing is official that gets newly released or reissued. It’s all essentially a bootleg one way or another because there’s no central estate.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2019 13:01 (five years ago) link
Exactly so, which is why I was surprised that you quoted that discogs note without comment.
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Sunday, 21 April 2019 13:09 (five years ago) link
*shrug* I just read it as authorized by Danny Hyde. Maybe he’s trying to leave Cold Spring behind.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 April 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link
In any event, that Gay Man's Guide release is now up for preorder:
https://shop.mentalgroove.ch/album/the-gay-mans-guide-to-safer-sex-2-ost
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 May 2019 03:31 (five years ago) link
Man there really is a new flood on, here's another live 'authorized bootleg' via Soleilmoon:
https://www.soleilmoon.com/shop/coil-porto/
“Porto” is the only authorized bootleg live recording of a Coil live performance.Coil performed on 21 June 2003 at the Casa da Música Festival in Porto, Portugal. Present on stage that night were Peter Christopherson, Ossian Brown and Thighpaulsandra. Jhonn Balance was not part of the lineup, possibly due to his drug and alcohol addictions. Because of his absence the music on this recording is entirely instrumental. The show was also notable for being Ossian’s last appearance with Coil.This edition is manufactured and released in Portugal, and is distributed in North America by Soleilmoon. Royalties will be paid to the remaining artists involved in the concert.Tracklist1. Blue Rats (18:14)2. Triple Sun (12:56)3. Radio Westin (13:32)4. Drip Drop (10:04)5. The First Five Minutes After Death (11:24)
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 May 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
interesting, as far as I can recall that show has always been MP3-sourced (even the CDRs), wonder if this is an improvement
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Sunday, 12 May 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
Another 8 Threshold Archive CDs
https://www.soleilmoon.com/shop/threshold-archives-series-2/
I can see Restitution of decayed intelligence, blue, and I think moons milk? No track listings though.
The CDs are pretty cheap but postage to the UK is more expensive than the discs so I’m going to hold off ordering for now
― I am using your worlds, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:29 (five years ago) link
thanks for the heads up there, I really appreciate it
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:37 (five years ago) link
(guessing from L-R and top-bottom that these are Moon's Milk, Blue, Worship The Glitch, Protection, Foxtrot, Astral Disaster, Porto, and Restitution)
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:40 (five years ago) link
I had protection on repeat earlier this week before I heard about this, no idea what the cover art looked like, so if there is a whole calf related stuff I’m stoked
But stoked for everything really
― I am using your worlds, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:48 (five years ago) link
*calf = cd of
whole calf seems highly coil-appropriate
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link
yeah Protection is the grey cubist thing on the top right - that's the 10" but there's also a CD with different material
I thought the one 3rd from left on bottom was Porto but that's a separate release as Ned noted the other day, not sure what this one is
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link
All kinda crazy clearing decks happening here.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:55 (five years ago) link
3rd from the left on the bottom looks like the bonus disc from moons milk iirc
― I am using your worlds, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:58 (five years ago) link
They were all individual paintings but it looks similar
https://www.discogs.com/Coil-Moons-Milk-In-Four-Phases-Bonus-Disc/release/190129
cool, that's some of my favorite work
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 May 2019 20:59 (five years ago) link
thx for the info! (since the mailing list went to facebook i'm out of touch sometimes)
― StanM, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 06:38 (five years ago) link
Don't understand why these aren't being sold separately, seems like a strange choice to bundle them like this
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 13:28 (five years ago) link
last time it was a hassle to track them all down, this is much easier (and cheaper)
maybe they made more this time? let's hope.
are the Threshold Archive series discs on the archive.org site? I know all the official stuff is there but haven't checked in a while
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 13:53 (five years ago) link
maybe they made more this time?
Given the bundles offered, seems like. Anyway placed my order for that and Porto this morning.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link
This all still seems a bit odd. Should they be getting profit from this? Educate me if I'm wrong. I thought the website said royalties went to surviving members. I'd love more Coil out there but this is just more bootlegs, right?
― kraudive, Thursday, 16 May 2019 01:58 (five years ago) link
I mean, they say as much on the Soleilmoon listing:
These are NOT QUALITY CONTROLLED Coil products. They should not be regarded as such. Coil was Geff Rushton (John Balance) and Peter Christopherson (Sleazy). Without the two of them, there is no Coil and thus no official Coil product. Threshold Archives was begun by Peter Christopherson to empty the archives of unreleased material and make music easily affordable for fans. Do not spend large amounts for these items. While Peter collaborated on the tracklists, the artwork was never finalized, and Coil was much more than simply the music contained in the product. In Peter’s words, he expressed his desire for a “case solid enough to stand up on its own” for the set so there may or may not be a construction kit forthcoming. Peter’s share of the proceeds will once again be donated to the SET Foundation and as before, payments will be issued to other contributors and survivors.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 May 2019 02:10 (five years ago) link
Peter’s share of the proceeds will once again be donated to the SET Foundation and as before, payments will be issued to other contributors and survivors.
given that the discs are six bucks each, this seems reasonable, particularly when taken in the context of the "Product Description" as a whole.
xp!
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 16 May 2019 02:16 (five years ago) link
love living 2 hours from Portland/Soleilmoon, the discs arrived today.
full tracklists are up now on Discogs, looks like some great extras (Journey To Avebury!):
https://www.discogs.com/label/910477-Threshold-Archives
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link
oh and also catalog numbers 17-18 and 21-22 are missing, so there are probably some still to come, possibly doubles as noted in the Discogs comments
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 17 May 2019 22:32 (five years ago) link
Nice -- looks like mine will arrive early next week, just got the initial delivery confirmation.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 18 May 2019 01:43 (five years ago) link
holy moly this 60-minute version of Mayhem Accelerator is certainly something to behold
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 18 May 2019 03:01 (five years ago) link
And the new Threshold Archives and Porto now in hand. Oh frabjous day, etc.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 May 2019 02:01 (five years ago) link
"Heavens Blade (John Balance Vox Demo)" from Swanyard is superb, I'm skipping around on first listen but wow this is just great
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 03:32 (five years ago) link
it's nice that all of these recent archive releases are very tightly focused on specific eras/phases of the band
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 03:33 (five years ago) link
Yeah for a situation where it seems there's no coordination it generally worked out pretty well.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 04:02 (five years ago) link
And yet another "official re-release" on the way:
https://www.oldeuropacafe.com/catalog/category/black-antlers-re-edition-.html
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 07:09 (five years ago) link
So strange to re-read this thread after all these years. The "little one" I mention in my posts is now a 15-year-old about to finish her freshman year of high school. Time flies.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link
Coil live 6th April 2003 – All Tomorrow’s Parties – Camber Sands, UKFound in a box of old DV tapes, here's a video that Sleazy gave me permission to film from the side of the stage during their performance at ATP. Edit/sync by Mika Hallbäck Vuorenpää. https://t.co/XOb08UPVkA pic.twitter.com/63EjnxpaID— Surgeon (@Tony_Surgeon) June 6, 2019
― toby, Friday, 7 June 2019 08:07 (five years ago) link
Thanks!
― StanM, Friday, 7 June 2019 08:38 (five years ago) link
cool, two days after "...And The Ambulance Died In His Arms"
in other news, Swanyard has some high points but a LOT of track duplication. Disappointing overall, and probably should have been a single CD, but hey why not release everything even if it's multiple versions (some tracks are repeated three times).
― Ambient Police (sleeve), Friday, 7 June 2019 14:32 (five years ago) link
"No really, THIS one is the variant!"
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 June 2019 14:47 (five years ago) link
Oh cool, I was at that ATP performance. I mostly remember Balance repeatedly asking them to turn the volume up.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 7 June 2019 14:49 (five years ago) link