Connect the Dukes of Stratosphear Track To the Song It's Parodying

yeah, I saw/thought that.

Woah. Just last night I listened to the Dukes CD on repeat. Great fun.

"Pale and Precious" sounds to my two ears like Macca collab'ing with the Beach Boys, really.

cecelia is a treat

well, yeah! All I did was get up to wash my face!

Go back to your cool New York dad and all of your money.

What the fuck?

I think I read that the "Then came her..." middle section of "The Affiliated" is Unit 4 + 2's "Concrete and Clay."

The piano playing behind the chorus from "Your Gold Dress" is from the Rolling Stones' "She's a Rainbow."

"Shindig magazine recently ran a cover story about the Dukes of the Starosphear - cool to see they are still loved."

That article was actually a labour of love by my esteemed chum, the extremely talented and generally rather lovely Mr. Marco Rossi - who, in addition to his journalistic abilities, is also not only some, most or possibly all of Cheese, but also at least 25% of the mighty Gothic Chicken; either or both of whom, incidentally, may well appeal to anyone who is still waiting in vain for another Dukes Of Stratosphear album.

I'm rather hoping to be able to persuade him that the natural follow-up to his Dukes interview / article would be a similar piece about Naz Nomad & The Nightmares....

Stew: What you make of the "It comes to you in a brown paper bag" (re)release?

Curiously enough I hadn't heard about it before, which - if it was legitimate / had any real interest / value for the average total Beefheart obsessive - I'd rather have expected to have done by now.

Looking at it on Amazon now 'though...

Hmmmm. What part of Beefheart's catalgue have "Sundazed" raided before, and why is that name making me suspicious before I've got any further?

Next, where in hell's name are "Tarotplane", "25th Century Quaker", "Mirror Man" and "Kandy Korn" - the tracks that ended up on Mirror Man and which are generally believed to represent 2 sides / 50% of the double album as it was originally conceived (so really quite a substantial omission, as omissions go!)?!?

This looks to me more like a re-sequenced version of I May Be Hungry But I Sure Ain't Weird but with 2 extra tracks ("Korn Ring Finger" - the only significant omission form the original - and a 2nd version of "Moody Liz") than a serious attempt at re-creating "It Comes To You....".

Furthermore, everthing here (apart from that second version of "Moody Liz") is already available - and with the best sound quality we're likely to get too - on the recent-ish Buddha (re-)issues of Safe As Milk and The Mirror Man Sessions.

Also, it's 30 bleedin' quid and, given that:
(a) I very much doubt that Sundazed have actually got access to the masters;
(b) I have serious doubts about their bona-fides in any case;
(c) at the end of the day all of these tracks are outtakes anyway;
I'd have to ask - can it really be worth it?!?

Digging a little deeper, it seems that I may have been slightly unfair to Sundazed, as they were responsible for a number of re-issues / re-releases / compilations by the ever-so-slightly-Beefheart connected Merrell & The Exiles, Mu and Rising Sons....

Otoh it is apparently being suggested (and again, in fairness, I'm not entirely clear where or by whom) that the sleeve of this latest release was designed by Cal Schenkel; who has been at pains to correct this somewhat misleading desription, explaining "...actually, I didn't design the cover. I did some doodles that are on the plain brown like slip cover thing that wraps the package. Someone else at Sundazed designed the album package.".

I must admit, I was all ooh, now I'm more 'oh'.

And as you say, at £30 and no CD version, seemed suspiciously like some sort of designer/bespoke project.

"I was all ooh, now I'm more 'oh'."

My missus says I have often that effect on her too.

My advice: if you haven't got 'em already, get Safe As Milk, The Mirror Man Sessions & Strictly Personal instead - and you should still have enough left over to buy both of the Cheese albums (Let It Brie and Enlarge Your Johnson) as well.

Otoh , if you want more Beefheart and less Brian-Wilson-meets-the-Dukes-Of-Stratosphear, then plot a course instead for Benjamin Horrendous and his mighty Fourfathers.

So, it seems (according to CDUniverse), the reissues of "25 o clock" and "psonic psunspot" will be available 3rd March.

this is the most obsceeeeeeeeeeene.... abomination of a thread, it is trash, it is filth, it is dirt. what made you start such a disgusting degeneratized thread as that? And I'm complimenting you guys by calling it a thread

(I tried, but cecelia pwned this thread the best so far)

Also, just one mention of "My Love Explodes", which is probably my favorite Dukes song ever. Granted, it's their most raucous song... it's like giving the Stones and Floyd some Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde potion, given the resulting ogres instruments and letting them at it.

Are the reissues gonna be 'hotly mastered'? cuz the early '00s Chips from the Chocolate Fireball remaster sounds like ass.

The 2001 Caroline reissue sounds great, but the original run of XTC CDs sounded better than most other 80s CD issues. None of this stuff was mastered badly. Also, expecting 2000 quality mastering from a band homaging (lol, I had to use the word) early and occasionally spuriously recorded psych nuggets seems slightly silly, IMHO.

sorry, bad phrasing. "expecting 2000s style mastering (i.e. brick wall normazilation, heavily remixed, etc.)"

Hmm, maybe I'm just remembering the Caroline CD in an unfavorable light, because I get the impression that it's way loud and compressed and not at all what you'd expect from a late '80s release. But I haven't listened to in ages, and I've never actually heard the original release, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

YMMV, but I've listened to both CDS, and while both CDs never sounded like shit, the 2001 reissue punched it up a little without making it this brick wall abomination that is the standard.

However, I don't know if I want 60s psych homages to be "newly remastered" in a rhetorical way, which was my original point, but just worded badly.

On a parallel note, I'm really sad XTC's 90s proposal for new alter egos making 60s bubblegum music never made it. That would have been amazing.

Andy chats with producer John Leckie on making the albums

http://apehouse.prevuz.com/2009/03/31/andy-partridge-chats-with-john-leckie-part-one/
http://apehouse.prevuz.com/2009/04/15/andy-partridge-chats-with-john-leckie-part-two/
http://apehouse.prevuz.com/2009/05/26/andy-partridge-chats-wit/

thanks.

Is there anything at all that wasn't already included on "Chips From The Chocolate Fireball"?

In which case I don't see the point in remastering and re-releasing those separately.

Yes, there's lots of unreleased stuff

25 Oclock (APECD023)
1. 25 Oclock
2. Bike Ride To The Moon
3. My Love Explodes
4. What In The World ??..
5. Your Gold Dress
6. The Mole From The Ministry
DEMOS
7. 25 Oclock
8. Bike Ride To The Moon
9. My Love Explodes
10. What In The World??..
11. Nicely Nicely Jane
12. Susan Revolving
EXTRA RECORDINGS
13. Black Jewelled Serpent Of Sound (Radio Caroline Edit)
14. Open A Can Of Human Beans
15. Tin Toy Clockwork Train

Psonic Psunspot (APECD024)
1. Vanishing Girl
2. Have You Seen Jackie?
3. Little Lighthouse
4. Your A Good Man Albert Brown (Curse You Red Barrel)
5. Collideascope
6. You're My Drug
7. Shiny Cage
8. Brainiacs Daughter
9. The Affiliated
10. Pale & Precious
DEMOS
11. No One At Home (Vanishing Girl)
12. Little Lighthouse
13. Colliedeascape
14. Shiny Cage
15. Brainiac's Daughter
16. The Affiliated

OK. Alternative versions of the same song has no interest for me though. Only new songs that had never been released before (preferrably in more or less finished and polished version) are interesting.

Well, APartridge's demos are like other people's finished stuff.

I was gonna say! The other Partridge demos I've heard are fascinating enough in their own right.

yeah but a bunch of them are on Fuzzy Warbles

The Affiliated - Kinks, Bacharach and Love?

this has come up on Captured Tracks facebook page. Your Gold Dress has a lot of Yardbirds. Still I'm Sad i.e.

"Tin Toy Clokwork Train" off the reissue is frickin' brilliant.

Andy's such a great interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN0R450zJVw

I just listened to this whole thing... brilliant stuff! Has John Leckie ever written a book about his career or the albums that he's worked on over the years? The guy has had a phenomenal career.

not that I know of, but yeah would definitely be worth reading

Just now listening to "My Love Explodes" was the first time in ~10 years of owning the album that I've really paid attention to the gnarly gtr solo in that "disgusting, degeneratized song" -- in the past, I was always 'taken out of the moment' by the bridge immediately preceding it, which sounds too much like straight XTC for my liking.

Isn't "What in the World" a Zager & Evans uh hommage?

I finally got round to getting those expanded reissues.

Boy, "Tin toy clockwork train" is massively irritating!

had no idea "You're a Good Man Albert Brown" is basically just an autobiographical sketch of Andy's granddad

25 O'CLOCK: I Had Too Much To Dream (Last Night) by THE ELECTRIC PRUNES and hints by early Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd (See Emily Play), Incence And Peppermint by Strawberry Alarm Clock, Paint It Black by The Stones and lyrics of The Time Has Come Today by The Chambers Brothers.
BIKE RIDE TO THE MOON: My White Bicycle by TOMORROW, a lot of ealy MOVE songs like Yellow Rainbow, I Can Hear The Grass Grow, Cherry Blossom Clinic (i'd like to ride my bycicle on the moon...), Bike by Pink Floyd and the gnome effect voice is more Scream Thy Last Scream of a Barrett next to departure then Bowie's Laughing Ghnome...
MY LOVE EXPLODES is cross Over Under Sidways Down by The Yardbirds and early Pretty Things and a lot similar bands with Bo Diddley sound like Blues Magoos (Rush Hour), Chocolate Watch Band (In The Past), The Electric Prunes (Get Me To The World On Time), The Monkees (Last Train To Clarksville) and The Misunderstood.
WHAT IN THE WORLD has fragments and offal of Only A Northern Song and It's All Too Much by The Beatles and specially 20000 Light Years From Home. The lyrics come from In The Year 2525 by Zager & Evans psychedelic folk duo with a hint of Semi Detached Suburban Mr James by Manfred Mann.
YOUR GOLD DRESS start with gregorian chorus a la Yardbirds (Turn To Earth) and a bass line a la Troggs (Night Of The Long Grass). The refrain is in the same style of She's A Rainbow or Auntie Mary's Dress Shop by Tomorrow (and some Kinks songs with Nicky Hopkins piano session).
THE MOLE FROM THE MINISTRY IS OBVIOUS the WALRUS of Lennon cross We Are The Moles (Part 1) with final a la Strawberry Fields Forever. And maybe a hint of Hole In my Shoe by Traffic.
VANISHING GIRL is of course a lot of HOLLIES songs (Look Throw Any Window, You Need Love, On A Carousel, etc...).
HAVE YOU SEEN JACKIE is a Barrett tribute, ARNOLD LAYNE in particolar way. And Humanoid Boogie by The Bonzo Dog Band is also a strong reference.
THE LITTLE LIGHTHOUSE is the most west coast Duke song (with You're My Drug). It starts in the same way of Song Of Our Ancestors by The Steve Miller Band (the sirens of ships on the bay...) and it sounds like The Golden Road by The Grateful Dead, Mr Soul by Buffalo Springfield, the trumpet of Alone Again Or by Love and a final a la 19th Nervous Breakdown by The Stones!!
GOOD MAN ALBERT BROWN is a psychopub masterpiece. It's like some Kinks songs (Mr Pleasent, Tin Soldier Man), The Small Faces (Happy Days Toytown, The Universal, Rene, Lazy Sunday), The Bonzos (The Equestrian Statute), Pink Floyd (Corporal Clegg), Over The Wall We Go by Bowie/Oscar, Procol Harum (Captain Clack), Cream (Mother's Lament) and mny many others songs by the same style.
COLLIDEASCOPE is The Move who steal by The Beatles. It has the chords of Blackberry Way and the style of Being Of Benefit Of Mr Kite and Hey Bulldog!
YOU'RE MY DRUG is a cross of So You Want To Be A Rock'N'Roll by THE BYRDS and Monterey by ERIC BURDON & THE ANIMALS.
SHINY CAGE is all Revolver album in one song. I'm Only Sleeping is the most reference here.
BRAINIAC'S DAUGHTER is a way to play like Mc Cartney in 1967/68. It's like Lovely Rita, Lady Madonna, etc...
THE AFFILIATED has Ray Davies style with Concrete And Clay by The Unite 4+2 in the mid part.
At last PALE AND PRECIOUS is a Beach Boys fantastic tribute. The styles are different, Surf's Up, Help Me Rhonds, Good Vibrations...

25 O'CLOCK: I Had Too Much To Dream (Last Night) by THE ELECTRIC PRUNES and hints by early Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd (See Emily Play), Incence And Peppermint by Strawberry Alarm Clock, Paint It Black by The Stones and lyrics of The Time Has Come Today by The Chambers Brothers.
BIKE RIDE TO THE MOON: My White Bicycle by TOMORROW, a lot of ealy MOVE songs like Yellow Rainbow, I Can Hear The Grass Grow, Cherry Blossom Clinic (i'd like to ride my bycicle on the moon...), Bike by Pink Floyd and the gnome effect voice is more Scream Thy Last Scream of a Barrett next to departure then Bowie's Laughing Ghnome...
MY LOVE EXPLODES is cross Over Under Sidways Down by The Yardbirds and early Pretty Things and a lot similar bands with Bo Diddley sound like Blues Magoos (Rush Hour), Chocolate Watch Band (In The Past), The Electric Prunes (Get Me To The World On Time), The Monkees (Last Train To Clarksville) and The Misunderstood.
WHAT IN THE WORLD has fragments and offal of Only A Northern Song and It's All Too Much by The Beatles and specially 20000 Light Years From Home. The lyrics come from In The Year 2525 by Zager & Evans psychedelic folk duo with a hint of Semi Detached Suburban Mr James by Manfred Mann.
YOUR GOLD DRESS start with gregorian chorus a la Yardbirds (Turn To Earth) and a bass line a la Troggs (Night Of The Long Grass). The refrain is in the same style of She's A Rainbow or Auntie Mary's Dress Shop by Tomorrow (and some Kinks songs with Nicky Hopkins piano session).
THE MOLE FROM THE MINISTRY IS OBVIOUS the WALRUS of Lennon cross We Are The Moles (Part 1) with final a la Strawberry Fields Forever. And maybe a hint of Hole In my Shoe by Traffic.
VANISHING GIRL is of course a lot of HOLLIES songs (Look Throw Any Window, You Need Love, On A Carousel, etc...).
HAVE YOU SEEN JACKIE is a Barrett tribute, ARNOLD LAYNE in particolar way. And Humanoid Boogie by The Bonzo Dog Band is also a strong reference.
THE LITTLE LIGHTHOUSE is the most west coast Duke song (with You're My Drug). It starts in the same way of Song Of Our Ancestors by The Steve Miller Band (the sirens of ships on the bay...) and it sounds like The Golden Road by The Grateful Dead, Mr Soul by Buffalo Springfield, the trumpet of Alone Again Or by Love and a final a la 19th Nervous Breakdown by The Stones!!
GOOD MAN ALBERT BROWN is a psychopub masterpiece. It's like some Kinks songs (Mr Pleasent, Tin Soldier Man), The Small Faces (Happy Days Toytown, The Universal, Rene, Lazy Sunday), The Bonzos (The Equestrian Statute), Pink Floyd (Corporal Clegg), Over The Wall We Go by Bowie/Oscar, Procol Harum (Captain Clack), Cream (Mother's Lament) and mny many others songs by the same style.
COLLIDEASCOPE is The Move who steal by The Beatles. It has the chords of Blackberry Way and the style of Being Of Benefit Of Mr Kite and Hey Bulldog!
YOU'RE MY DRUG is a cross of So You Want To Be A Rock'N'Roll by THE BYRDS and Monterey by ERIC BURDON & THE ANIMALS.
SHINY CAGE is all Revolver album in one song. I'm Only Sleeping is the most reference here.
BRAINIAC'S DAUGHTER is a way to play like Mc Cartney in 1967/68. It's like Lovely Rita, Lady Madonna, etc...
THE AFFILIATED has Ray Davies style with Concrete And Clay by The Unite 4+2 in the mid part.
At last PALE AND PRECIOUS is a Beach Boys fantastic tribute. The styles are different, Surf's Up, Help Me Rhonda, Good Vibrations...

This seems like a great opportunity for a spotify playlist:

https://open.spotify.com/user/olken2000/playlist/3PHx8IzBEx8AuyXeFDUel5

I'd love to know what else I can add

Nice!

Sweet playlist.

Oh looky here:

Psurroundabout Ride – C­omplete Dukes’ recordings remixed in stereo & 5.1 Surround Sound by Steven Wilson & approved by Andy Partridge on CD & Blu Ray. PLUS 200g vinyl of 25 o-Clock & Psonic Psunspot also out same day https://t.co/LDPVy2vbfp #dukesofstratosphear #xtc #5.1remixes pic.twitter.com/YN63iAq78j

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