man, I think I have strong differences in opinion about comedy with anyone who found that tweet funny.
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Monday, 29 July 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link
the tweet's as funny as that song is good imo, ie. not.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 29 July 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
this album is not very listenable for me
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 29 July 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link
Album is very good. Criticism is bizarre
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 29 July 2019 21:25 (four years ago) link
Clearly a better album than coloring book imo
this album is good ... for me to poop on
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 July 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link
pretty funny how quickly ilx falls to the consensus pressure
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 29 July 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link
this a blast what are yall (naysayers) listening to?
― big city slam (Spottie), Monday, 29 July 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link
It’s mostly good, just long. I’m gonna try to listen again and start with Eternal.
― jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Monday, 29 July 2019 23:51 (four years ago) link
haven't listened to this yet, but definitely felt in the Twitter air that the knives were going to the out for Chance
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 July 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link
i think the production feels generally more polished than coloring book but the average track quality is a bit of a step down, even though coloring book has "blessings" and "how great" which are too much for me
― ufo, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 00:09 (four years ago) link
The twitter response has definitely felt like a pile-on, disproportionate to the album quality. It’s been kinda hip to hate on chance since that “ol happy ass” tweet
― jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 00:28 (four years ago) link
... yeah, the negative reaction to this record is outrageous
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link
"i got you" is phenomenal let me hear it at a roller rink
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 02:43 (four years ago) link
man, i dunno anything about twitter response or pitchfork or whatever everyone else is saying; I just know I listened through this about three or four times and there's a lot more bad than good. I like Hot Shower, We Go High, Big Fish. Not sure I wanna go back to mine for more.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:30 (four years ago) link
i haven't had the opportunity to really dig into this album yet but in listening to it a few times i feel like the memes have really led the conversation here. everyone loved the ol happy ass tweet and now every review basically just says "ol happy ass." (this raises the question of music criticism's function when it makes the same point as a meme but in 1,500 more words, but that's a discussion for another thread.) i guess you could say that the ol happy ass tweet (to be general obv) crystalized feelings about chance instead of drove them but my problem w/ the discussion around this album is that it feels like it's just picked up from where it left off without actually engaging much w/ the album. it's hard for me to imagine the theoretical album that would've shifted the conversation on him... so i also don't think this album, which sounds kinda dope to me, is getting a fair shake
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:39 (four years ago) link
he def didn't help himself by turning "they go low we go high" into a chorus i will say that
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:43 (four years ago) link
https://t.co/VPP9YZFO0k
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, July 29, 2019 7:39 AM (thirteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
great review whiney
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:48 (four years ago) link
it's true it is great
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 July 2019 03:56 (four years ago) link
there's def some stuff on here that doesn't really work -- the song that sounds like vampire weekend for instance -- but in the context of the scale and ambition of the album (the thread of musical omnivorousness as whiney points out) i don't really mind them so much
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 July 2019 04:05 (four years ago) link
Thanks guys!The omniverousness works for me in a way that it doesn’t with, say, Cudi because there’s still this Chance way of rapping that basically stays the same from track-to-track. It’s not like “this is my rock song” (yells) it’s mostly like “what if I was Chance over a rock song”Anyway, the title track has been in and out of my head all day...
― Hannah GAPDY (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 04:24 (four years ago) link
Not sure there’s anything as bad here as childish gambino or action Bronson guest verses
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 05:42 (four years ago) link
The album this most resembles is “surf” imo
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 06:12 (four years ago) link
Surf had Sunday Candy, there's nothing here even 0,01% as good as Sunday Candy.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link
I disagree but I always found Sunday candy a musically grating —way closer to the “happy ass” meme & jokes about him sounding like a youth minister than anything here. It presaged coloring book way more than the rest of surf presaged this. “Sunday candy”’s saving grace for me was his writing on it rather than anything musical tbh
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
Anyway the surf comparison is more about the world building & patchwork unpredictability, the way the songs seem to spill out from the central concept rather than following some linear narrative
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link
Ran through this doing stuff around the house....seems okay? I'm a mild Chance fan, and there were definitely some moments that felt a little too canned or whatever (Ben Gibbard's voice just naturally grates on me)...but overall it didn't seem out of character for Chance. The online reaction is weird I was expecting a real drastic change in tone or direction.
Also, he's a really good rapper, both technically and flow-wise, I like his flow so he's usually enjoyable to me on that level even if I don't necessarily love the song.
think i'm w/ulysses though i don't see myself going back a lot, but the vitriol is odd to me...
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link
The greatness of Sunday Candy is the way it goes through a thousand different ideas and sounds in four minutes. Also, 'take and eat my body like it's holy' is a terrific line in a gospel-rap song. It's half about the eucharist, half about oral sex. The Pitchfork review is not that good, but the line about how Coloring Book made piety seem like an acid trip was good. Chance's faith seemed so alive, so thrilling, so fleshy and personal and sublime. Now he just sounds like any believer everywhere. This album is so musically backwards looking, and so lyrically staid, it's such a massive disappointment.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
I've only listened to the song with En Vogue, and all I have to say is that it's beautiful to hear En Vogue in 2019.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link
yeah that was good one!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
Now he just sounds like any believer everywhere. This album is so musically backwards looking, and so lyrically staid, it's such a massive disappointment.
I feel like we’re listening to two totally different albums. I’m being gaslit by the exact same people who, let’s be honest, overhyped his earlier work
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link
i think the production on this album is really beautiful and spacious and very patiently crafted, and the people who think it's bland are kinda telling on themselves, like they can't deal with chance if he's not overwhelming them with thirty ideas at once. breihan calling it "bright and flat and weightless" smh, shit is dimensional
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
just kinda love hanging out in this particular backyard
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
also the shawn mendes track goes
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
^^ agreed, that's def one of the highlights.
― jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
I’m being gaslit by the exact same people who, let’s be honest, overhyped his earlier work
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:22 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
i don't know about gaslighting but this def feels like he went from overrated to underrated
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link
Coloring Book was my favorite album of 2016, but I never really liked Acid Rap either. I guess he is very hit and miss for me, lol.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link
Acid Rap and 10 Day were both better than Coloring book imo. Still haven't listened to this one yet though.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link
this album is great and i love listening to it. “five year plan” is AMAZING
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 23:22 (four years ago) link
i'm pretty sure "get a bag" is better than "sunday candy"
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link
i feel that way also ... calboy sounds good on it too
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link
I really like this album? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― Tim F, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 04:16 (four years ago) link
ok this is really growing on me now, the production's so gorgeous and there are plenty of hooks they're just a different vibe to the sort of bigness of a lot of colouring book so that + the length made it hard to really get into at first
latest favourite is "ballin flossin"
― ufo, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 05:11 (four years ago) link
Ballin flossin is a highlight for me too. Also big fish — gucci sounds great on that
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 05:33 (four years ago) link
I do want to apologize to Fred who complained that this album wasn’t corny enough which suggests tho we have v different aesthetic criteria he did listen to this album more than 99% of reviewers — this is def his least corny album at least possibly barring the dark parts of acid rap
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 05:59 (four years ago) link
I haven't read the reviews but I was pleased that Chance has toned things down a bit? I remember enjoying Coloring Book but also finding it exhausting and I didn't return to it after a few run-throughs.
Also the dark parts of Acid Rap are probably my favourite things he's done.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 06:11 (four years ago) link
most of the complaints i've seen have been "this is waaay too corny why does he love his wife so much lol" and i don't get that at all when colouring book went full on "god is great!" for a few tracks and this one is generally chiller and a little more low-key musically too
― ufo, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link
only a few tracks in and his verses are really good but the choruses are mostly deflating
― flopson, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 06:25 (four years ago) link
arent the first two hooks just john legend and ben gibbard
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 06:49 (four years ago) link
Yes and they’re the reason I had a bad taste in my mouth the first time through
― jakey mo collier (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link