― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
= what I think — I think — tho probably not how I'd say it.
You know when they say "All reading from the same hymn sheet": well the charts is the hymn sheet (but of course which way up the sheet is depends on where you're standing, and some people can't see properly and some people can't see at all). "Indie" is everyone standing apart from each other, each with their own personal hymnsheet that they wrote earlier and haven't shown to anyone else yet.
The sung hymn IS more complex than the sheet-music says — but you can only "engage with" the nature of the complexity by running it past and thru those simplicities you grasp well enough to also grasp that they're TOO simplified. (And, yes, if you just say Oh it's all so COMPLEX, Let's do lunch, then actually you're just stepping away to allow the Dominant Simplification continued unchallenged Mastery of its Domain. Tho — contra a v.boring and common NoPoMo counter-simplification [Sterling not guilty, I won't say who is] — noting the fact of greater complexity than the hymnsheet maps isn't IN ITSELF to say, Let's Do Lunch. It may by contrast be: Let's Skip Lunch and Explore this More — Millions Not Yet Born wd Prefer We Got It Sorted Now.)
((ps I *think* Sterling has an idealist Theory of Communication grafted into the middle of his materialist Analysis of Politics/the World: not that he actually behanves as if believes it, except sometimes just to SAY he does. It depends on how much work and what kind of work the word "fundamentally" is going to be required to do, as he drops it [somewhere far above]: I think there's a whole planet's-worth of not-dealt-with complexity swept up into THAT word — all ready to fall back out of Bart's toy-cupboard as soon as Marge leaves the room... ))
― mark s, Wednesday, 9 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
A class studying non-Euclidean geometry is not socially non-Euclidean as compared to a class studying counting up to 100.
― azalea path, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 30 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Sterling Clover, OG Challopper.
― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Indie is obviously better than charts. Not because lower production costs is a good thing, but because chartpop has been going in the wrong ways for the past 20+ years.
Before 1985, chartpop was always superior to indie though. No exception.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 11:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Decline and Fall of ILM, Part 73947359.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link