― bugged out, Friday, 16 April 2004 10:36 (twenty years ago) link
― bugged out, Friday, 16 April 2004 10:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 10:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 10:46 (twenty years ago) link
i dont buy the inherently smug thing either tho, cos i find that rupture mixes, much like perching on a pruned opinion like "fascist rap", to do nothing to increase the charm of what he uses, i'd allow like bugged out sez that he retains some vitality with the clash aesthetic but it seems a noisy grabby unsympathetic way of doing it. he seems like he thinks he's still weaving soemthing new, tearing off revealing some greater vertigo, but i find that destructive. destructive physiognomy. and no i dont find his use of more obv stuff like egyptian riddim/'light yr ass'/kelis suggests popness but a cheap eye for the most casually yeah "futuristic" blah blah. ok the german dancehall thing was a bit harsh (electric boogie riddim *retch*) but it seems indicative of something, a more peripheral rhetorical 2nd generation mutation circle
― prima fassy (mwah), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:00 (twenty years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:02 (twenty years ago) link
(It may well be that easier music access and a shuffle-play listening culture will make selling eclecticism increasingly difficult.)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:04 (twenty years ago) link
i make absolutely no apology for this whatever. i get paid for *my* views *my* ideas *my* writing, not be or think about anyone else. my judgements are my judgements and when people know me, they either agree with me in the main and find my work useful or they think i'm a dick and don't. i don't see how this is a bad thing. re chumminess, it's not, it's just respect and a little civility. i'm not namedropping, then name's already been dropped!
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:09 (twenty years ago) link
Well, both really, but mainly the first one, which I was thinking might make this harder to find online. By which I mean shops, since I can't download at home and post from a cafe on my lunch break.
― Barima (Barima), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:17 (twenty years ago) link
hey dave when i say selfcentred i mean the opinions coming distant second to your flirting. like a wise dude once said, "you only defend things cos u like em". cudgeled swine leave me be
― prima fassy (mwah), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:19 (twenty years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:21 (twenty years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:25 (twenty years ago) link
oh to hell with it, it's evident you are either completely insane and thus i should just keep quiet, or an absolute comedy genius because this line, literally, made me bust out laughing in my office. glass houses etc.
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:31 (twenty years ago) link
Records speaking to eachother is not a concept I dislike actually, but I think it's more interesting when the conversation is unintentional or incidental or mercenary, and when the conversation is happening on a track to track basis, one word or sentence at a time. Something like GTT feels more like a staged play (which incidentally - and cos it supports my argument - Bakhtin says can *never* be dialogic!) with rupture as the director. Sorry Bugged Out but for me at least scenius *is* more interesting than genius. And maybe the problem for rupture is that scenes like dancehall already have the whole diaspora thingy so thoroughly on lockdown that his efforts sometimes strike me as simultaneously redundant and even crude, like someone explaining the meaning of the joke after the punchline.
That said I do enjoy his mixes so maybe I won't agree with all this tomorrow!
PS. Dave I still love you obv!
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:33 (twenty years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:43 (twenty years ago) link
(never yours tim xx)
― prima fassy (mwah), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 16 April 2004 12:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 12:11 (twenty years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Friday, 16 April 2004 12:13 (twenty years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Friday, 16 April 2004 12:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 12:27 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 16 April 2004 12:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 12:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 12:49 (twenty years ago) link
I stopped reading after this.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:25 (twenty years ago) link
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:14 (twenty years ago) link
i think sometimes rupture is doing this; i don't find allowing a groove to roll to be inherently superior to setting one up only to fuck it up, or vice versa. to the first point, the first half of gold teeth thief seems to me to be completely danceable throughout, though you do have to shift the style a few times to keep up. i think on the larger level what rupture's better mixes are saying is that these extra-musical structures mirror the structure of dancing (or the dance-listener's activity) naturally; ie the crashy noisey jungly bits mirror when you hit a tune you can't help but keep turning up or the dj keeps amping things up at the crest of the night.
on the other hand i think rupture also knows and interacts with the fact that most people listening to his music are doing so while chained to their computers, driving around, sitting at home, etc; places where the implication of dance is pleasurable but the mind is also free to engage with the transitions, connections, and disconnections he creates.
that might be a bit of having it both ways but it's why i find him fascinating. the 'diaspora' stuff is a red herring, why shouldn't a dj reflect his own tastes?
on a musical note: that dabrye track is hot. it's a nice bite of dj quik's style with more bassy techno to it.
― rgeary (rgeary), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 16 April 2004 17:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago) link
― ryan kuo (ryan kuo), Friday, 16 April 2004 17:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 April 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago) link
― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:11 (nineteen years ago) link
explain.
― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― stelfox, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:53 (nineteen years ago) link
wow, is "mole in the ground" a cover (or - barf - an "interpolation") of the old folk song?
xpost.
― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― stelfox, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― stelfox, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 11:03 (nineteen years ago) link