Arthur Russell compilation

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What stuff was mooted for the comp?

Another thought is lovely but World of Echo is the keeper.

btw anyone know anything about Tiger Stripes by Felix? I have the 12 and it says prod by Nicky Siano but...its Russell for sure, isn't it?

gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 23:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

what's World of Echo sound like? it's not dance-y at all, is it?

i have his "Instrumentals" 12" and it wasn't at all what i was thinking it was going to be like after hearing his genius tracks on Disco (Not Disco)


where else is it possible to hear his music?

JasonD (JasonD), Thursday, 19 December 2002 00:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

>what's World of Echo sound like? it's not dance-y at all, is it?

world of echo is a solo cello/vocal record but its swathed in deep dubby fx. it sounds like the more abstract stuff on Another Thought. Some of the tunes are solo reworkings of his dance stuff (lets go Swimming, Wax the Van). It's f**king beautiful.

hey! I have a spare copy of Another Thought for a good home...

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 00:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was lucky to find the original to the Dinosaur 24-24 from some guy in Italy, i wonder how much that would go for on Ebay...
Last week i also found one pressing for the Lola - Wax the van. the dub is great!

Jens (brighter), Thursday, 19 December 2002 01:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

i'm meant to be meeting dave hill this weekend and intend to interrogate him about those reels. i would remortgage my house (if i owned one) to raise the money to get that comp out. one day it will see the light of day.

arthur is about the only person in music who i would call a hero of mine - i love everything he has done. i have to say that i much prefer 'another thought' to 'world of echo' (although i love the latter too). i just think the songs and the words are better on it. if you ever get a chance - buy it. it's one of the most beautiful records ever made. my ex girlfriend used to describe it as nick drake in dub. that's not quite right but might give a vague idea of what it's like.

and jens, the 24-24 album has been widely bootleged - hope you got an original.

http://www.tigersushi.com/site/content/artist/photo/4107_2.jpg

stirmonster, Thursday, 19 December 2002 01:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

nick drake in dub! there was a John Martyn period between solid air/ one world where i saw him do really echoed out stuff which is similar in a "not quite right vague feeling way" too.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 19 December 2002 01:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

ARTHUR RUSSELL IS MY HERO.

I put together what I think is a great compilation of his dance stuff. I got too tired of waiting for the Nuphonic box so I went on Audiogalaxy for days and days till I found all I could. I'll trade for a copy of Dinosaur's "24-24" music album (a CD-r of it) if anyone has it.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 19 December 2002 03:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

"jens, the 24-24 album has been widely bootleged - hope you got an original"

Did it get bootlegged in th early days too becayuse this record is an old one. When you come to sweden again you can take a look. I bought it form an italian guy who only had records older than 1982...

jay vee - i´m gonna mp3 my copy soon then we can trade...

Jens (brighter), Thursday, 19 December 2002 23:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

nope jens. it got bootlegged last year so yr in luck. do you have the 'let's go swimming' 12"?

stirmonster, Friday, 20 December 2002 04:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

no, no but i want it :-)
(along with a lot of othe rstuff by him)

Jens (brighter), Friday, 20 December 2002 18:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

brag brag: i got the swimming 12, i got the indian ocean 12, but i only got the lola 7. ftah! jens if you want me to cd-r the vinyl i'll trade for a 24-24.

gaz (gaz), Saturday, 21 December 2002 09:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

gaz - got a lot of mp3s including three mixesof let´s go swimming, lola dub (found the lola - wax the wan 12" last week) actually there is another Lola 12" where Arthur is involved but it wasn´t very interesting-

Jens (brighter), Saturday, 21 December 2002 15:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

jens,
aw man c'mon...do i have to beg? what do you need?

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 22 December 2002 09:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

i will do it when i get around to rip it!

Jens (brighter), Sunday, 22 December 2002 15:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

now i have done it.....

Jens (brighter), Thursday, 2 January 2003 21:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

four months pass...
So any news on these reissues and/or compilation?

Omar (Omar), Saturday, 10 May 2003 18:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Finally listened to Another Thought recently and damn it's good...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 May 2003 19:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

...yeah me too. I want more. :)

Omar (Omar), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

World of Echo - in Roger Adultery's all time top ten, maybe top 5 - essential

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 11 May 2003 02:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

agree

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 11 May 2003 06:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

three months pass...
Does any body know if any other of the original Russell tracks have been bootlegged? Go Bang on Sleeping Bag?
How d'ya tell the difference between the bootleg + original of 24-24 Music?

El, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

How d'ya tell the difference between the bootleg + original of 24-24 Music?

the bootleg has a gloss finish (from what i can recall) while the original was matt.

some guy on ebay is constantly selling the 'in the light of a miracle (walter gibbons mixes)' 12" that talking loud promoed but never released. i'm guessing that he pressed up a couple of hundred himself.

as far as i know, there aren't any other russell bootlegs bar 'go bang' being available on various 'loft classic' type eps originating from nyc.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 2 September 2003 21:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

three months pass...
revive?

Compilations up and coming on SoulJazz and Audika soon - anyone have any info on the Audika one?

jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 1 January 2004 18:06 (twenty years ago) link


"Audika [...] is readying three Russell releases: a double disc reissue of World of Echo with an alternate version of the entire album, a disc highlighting Russell's orchestrated music, and Calling Out of Context, due on January 27, which is a collection of previously unavailable rhythmic songs recorded between 1985 and 1990."

Jens (brighter), Thursday, 1 January 2004 18:17 (twenty years ago) link

FuckFuckFuck! brilliant! A Happy New Year indeed!

jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 1 January 2004 18:19 (twenty years ago) link

the soul jazz is so so soooooo good. just life-affirming. top ten of 2004 easy.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 1 January 2004 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

uh...

top ten of 2004? Stop right there.

jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 1 January 2004 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

i haven't even seen it but knowing what's on it, I vote for it to be top 10 of all time.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 1 January 2004 21:29 (twenty years ago) link

yes, jed, top 10 of 2004. you may have noticed the date under your posts has changed, and the compilation is due for release later this month.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 1 January 2004 22:04 (twenty years ago) link

as in: i have no idea what else is going to come out this year, but i'd be hard pressed to imagine ten records so good that they'd overshadow this.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 1 January 2004 22:05 (twenty years ago) link

yes its a difficult concept but i think i understand.

jed (jed_e_3), Thursday, 1 January 2004 22:12 (twenty years ago) link

I just listened to it again last night...incredibly good.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:32 (twenty years ago) link

Has this been released?

scott m (mcd), Friday, 9 January 2004 21:39 (twenty years ago) link

26th of January in the U.K.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

has anybody heard the remix of "go bang" that's making the rounds?

vahid (vahid), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:11 (twenty years ago) link

who mixed it do you know?

jed_ (jed), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:13 (twenty years ago) link

kein idee

vahid (vahid), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:41 (twenty years ago) link

I simply wish that the Soul Jazz comp coulda been one-stop shopping (with "Kiss Me Again" and "Tell You Today").
I am still holding out for the _Calling Out of Context_ disc of unreleased tapes. When I ran into the Audika gent a few weeks back, he cut to the chase and said it sounded like "psychedelic Nick Drake with drum machine."

Andy Beta, Friday, 9 January 2004 23:11 (twenty years ago) link

oh the excitement!

jed_ (jed), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

i have 24-249(mint bootleg) and world of echo vinyls i would sell email me if yous is interested

bahktin@yahoo.com, Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:47 (twenty years ago) link

does anyone know what's planned for the 'disc highlighting Russell's orchestrated music'? "tower of meaning" and "instrumentals" perhaps? or are there more recordings floating out there?
i wonder if "24-24 music" will turn up on disc... grabbed the boot recently and it's, um, okay...

jwd, Saturday, 10 January 2004 11:08 (twenty years ago) link

I feel a little better about the planet knowing that this disc exists.

Andy K (Andy K), Saturday, 10 January 2004 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

o but if this should fall into the wrong hands...

or...actually wot andy said.

mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 10 January 2004 14:01 (twenty years ago) link

The more over time Russell strikes me as this American demi-equivalent to Mark Hollis. *thinks*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

not sure what the orch. stuff past ToM or Instrumentals v2. would entail. i do know that Instr. 2 is mastered at the wrong speed, so that would be corrected. perhaps Instrumentals Vol.1?
just saw the Peter Zummo (XI) disc with Arthur and Mustafa Ahmed. don't know anything about that though.

Beta (abeta), Saturday, 10 January 2004 16:27 (twenty years ago) link

did everyone see the arthur russell profile by david toop in this month's wire magazine?

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 10 January 2004 17:59 (twenty years ago) link

Ned OTM - they have similar singing styles, they sing IN not out. You get the feeling that the music was not made with anyone else (even a listener) in mind.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 10 January 2004 18:30 (twenty years ago) link

arthur russell towers above mark hollis, though, and you know i don't say this lightly.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:27 (twenty years ago) link

Phew, a bold statement. But one I can understand, actually, since Russell shows a greater range in the end, though Hollis became such an elegant perfectionist (miniaturist?) that it's quite awe-inspiring.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:32 (twenty years ago) link

heh, i'm just being a troublemaker. really their respective achievements make them very hard to rate side by side.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago) link

True enough, but they do have this shared delicacy and restrained in their singing which called the comparison to mind. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:42 (twenty years ago) link

agreed.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 January 2004 21:44 (twenty years ago) link

As a public service announcement for London-based posters: the Soul Jazz comp is now on sale a week early at the Sounds of the Universe shop in Broadwick Street, Soho. £9.99.

Phoebe Dinsmore, Monday, 19 January 2004 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

ten years pass...

Just getting into "Calling Out of Context," fucking amazing - where to go next?

Pentenema Karten, Friday, 24 October 2014 02:59 (ten years ago) link

yeah go through some singles, that comp has some good stuff to get you started. def check out world of echo at some point tho.

ogmor, Friday, 24 October 2014 07:38 (ten years ago) link

And Another Thought!

MaresNest, Friday, 24 October 2014 09:26 (ten years ago) link


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